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I like that story Maria. Tis true.

Modifié par slimgrin, 23 juin 2011 - 01:52 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

I feel a bit bad for the OP.

I just want you to know dude: I've been there.

Women are gorgeous, smell great, and they wear those dresses with the little straps and skirts that show off the back of their kneecaps. It doesn't seem fair that they're all so yummy. Then you meet one with a tongue piercing and shiny black boots that somehow makes your heart do the loop-de-loop, but she doen't want you. No, she wants Mr. Spiky Green hair. Some stupid pasty twig boy who listens to Velvet Revolver and misuses logical fallacies despite studying for his BA in philosophy.

Let me tell you, OP, it gets better! You'll lose that 80 pounds, move to Las Vegas, and find that girl who thinks anal sex is great and appreciates your wiliness to go out at 2 am to pick her up egg drop soup.

Then one day, you'll run into Ms. Tongue Piercing and she'll be all over you, but you'll be like, "Sorry, I don't think this will work Kirsten. Also, while I might not have as good a taste in music as Mr. Spiky Green hair, I seem to have something he lacks. A JOB."

But you won't say that to her because you're a nice guy.

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So the moral of this story is to get a job? (And know where to get egg drop soup?)

I just figure it this way - somewhere there is a girl (or guy) who gets you. Gets your humor and makes you laugh. Is smart and considerate. All of those wonderful, magical things. It's a matter of chipping away at layers sometimes (yours and hers/his), but also about putting yourself out there (making your interests known, in the very least).

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 23 juin 2011 - 01:56 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

I feel a bit bad for the OP. 

I just want you to know dude: I've been there. 

Women are gorgeous, smell great, and they wear those dresses with the little straps and skirts that show off the back of their kneecaps. It doesn't seem fair that they're all so yummy. Then you meet one with a tongue piercing and shiny black boots that somehow makes your heart do the loop-de-loop, but she doen't want you. No, she wants Mr. Spiky Green hair. Some stupid pasty twig boy who listens to Velvet Revolver and misuses logical fallacies despite studying for his BA in philosophy. 

Let me tell you, OP, it gets better! You'll lose that 80 pounds, move to Las Vegas, and find that girl who thinks anal sex is great and appreciates your wiliness to go out at 2 am to pick her up egg drop soup. 

Then one day, you'll run into Ms. Tongue Piercing and she'll be all over you, but you'll be like, "Sorry, I don't think this will work Kirsten. Also, while I might not have as good a taste in music as Mr. Spiky Green hair, I seem to have something he lacks. A JOB." 

But you won't say that to her because you're a nice guy. 


I enjoyed the story.

whykikyouwhy wrote...

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So the moral of this story is to get a job? (And know where to get egg drop soup?)

I just figure it this way - somewhere there is a girl (or guy) who gets you. Gets your humor and makes you laugh. Is smart and considerate. All of those wonderful, magical things. It's a matter of chipping away at layers sometimes (yours and hers/his), but also about putting yourself out there (making your interests known, in the very least).


I think the moral is to be yourself, but the highlighted part is pretty important too. It's incredibly hard to find the right person if you don't look, romcom movie meet-cutes be damned.

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ForumPortal wrote...

And not the nice guy?

There are many exceptions but I have seen this most of the time.

The girls all like/date the stuck-up jerk guys, but not the genuinely nice guys.

Why is this?


Don't hate the player hate the game.

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I think most guys are just jealous of in shape, muscle bound men such as myself and just like to think we're jerks to placate their rage that we can have any woman we want.
That being said, I certainly don't just let any hot woman have the honor. They have to prove they're worthy.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

I feel a bit bad for the OP.

I just want you to know dude: I've been there.

Women are gorgeous, smell great, and they wear those dresses with the little straps and skirts that show off the back of their kneecaps. It doesn't seem fair that they're all so yummy. Then you meet one with a tongue piercing and shiny black boots that somehow makes your heart do the loop-de-loop, but she doen't want you. No, she wants Mr. Spiky Green hair. Some stupid pasty twig boy who listens to Velvet Revolver and misuses logical fallacies despite studying for his BA in philosophy.

Let me tell you, OP, it gets better! You'll lose that 80 pounds, move to Las Vegas, and find that girl who thinks anal sex is great and appreciates your wiliness to go out at 2 am to pick her up egg drop soup.

Then one day, you'll run into Ms. Tongue Piercing and she'll be all over you, but you'll be like, "Sorry, I don't think this will work Kirsten. Also, while I might not have as good a taste in music as Mr. Spiky Green hair, I seem to have something he lacks. A JOB."

But you won't say that to her because you're a nice guy.


OK, I'm kinda confused...egg drop soup has something to do with buttsecks?

never mind, I don't even want to know! T.M.I.

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Turnip Root wrote...

I think most guys are just jealous of in shape, muscle bound men such as myself and just like to think we're jerks to placate their rage that we can have any woman we want.
That being said, I certainly don't just let any hot woman have the honor. They have to prove they're worthy.


Right on brother!

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Turnip Root wrote...

I think most guys are just jealous of in shape, muscle bound men such as myself and just like to think we're jerks to placate their rage that we can have any woman we want.
That being said, I certainly don't just let any hot woman have the honor. They have to prove they're worthy.


You forgot to include pics with this post.

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I think it may have something to do with the thing where people "want what they can't have" a jerk is less likely to care either way about someone and won't be affected very much by the girl's feelings or about dating to begin with, so they cling to them because they're afraid they'll lose them.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Maybe it's less about the girls "liking" jerks than it is about there just being a higher ratio of "jerks" to nice guys.

Just something to consider.

This. The "good guy" is a dying breed and should be put in the endangered species list.


And it's your own damn fault for decades of rewarding idiocy and punishing the unselfish with gross neglect and exploitation. :P

No, seriously.

Why be a nice guy? There is no incentive to be a nice guy.

Women? Forget about it. You might get a desperate woman who's divorced twice with three kids. She went for the jerks first and was surprised to find out they were jerks. That or you will just be the guy who gets an earful when she's sad or pissed off and her significant other is out drinking again.

Money? Forget about that too. If you simply aim to do your best and rely on work ethic to take you places, you are in for some disappointment. You have to be willing to pull some strings. You have to have "flexible" ethics.

Happiness? You're broke and alone, or with someone that is mostly dead weight and probably would be better off without. Enjoy your life.:happy:

So, anyone got a reason to be a nice guy?

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 23 juin 2011 - 02:24 .


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ForumPortal wrote...

And not the nice guy?

There are many exceptions but I have seen this most of the time.

The girls all like/date the stuck-up jerk guys, but not the genuinely nice guys.

Why is this?



Well, being the hormone driven teenage girly that I am, I would just like to point out a few things. For starters, girls don't like jerks, but on the other hand...if that jerk is hot then we might like to look at them.Image IPB I've seen alot of bad relationships where the guy is the "jerk", and is usually domineering the relationship so that the girl feels its not her choice whether she wants to leave the relationship or not. Or both of them are jerks, have you thought of that? But, at least in my circle of friends, the guy has to be nice and respectful...and a tad cute. Sadly most of those types of guys are already taken.....*sigh*  But seriously, if a guy is a total douch bag and a girl has respect for her body and self, she won't even touch him...unless he pays. Image IPB just kidding.

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None of you know the secret to landing an attractive member of your preferred sex? Somehow I'm not surprised.

Here's the real deal. Humans react mostly on scent. Because our sense of smell is relatively weak, this occurs on a subliminal level. So you are attracted to someone, but you're not really sure why. To become attractive , you need to alter your body's chemistry slightly to a more appealing scent.

If you want to attract the men, then you need to change your diet to include more beef liver. That's why omnivorous women are much more appealing and appear more healthy. Every alpha woman secretly ingests beef liver for that added oomph.

If it's women you're after, you need every bad boy's secret weapon, anchovies. Those little fish draw the girls like flies. One anchovy pizza a week and you'll be beating them off with a stick. If you want the added kick, just stick one of those little swimmers under each of your arms. Your jaw will drop at the reactions you'll get.

Now you know. It's science. Put it to work for you.

Of course, you could probably just try to be a decent human being and pursue relationships with people who show an interest in you, but it's a heckuva a lot easier just to use the scientific approach.

Modifié par mousestalker, 23 juin 2011 - 02:35 .


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lol. seriously though I heard that the scent that attacts girls is the scent of another girl, particularly post sex. I find this very perplexing as that's usually the time when I'm not interested in the opposite sex at all. Image IPB

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Huh. I was using cinnamon and cloves. (And I am, admittedly, a bit of a jerk.) Go figure.

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Skirata129 wrote...

lol. seriously though I heard that the scent that attacts girls is the scent of another girl, particularly post sex. I find this very perplexing as that's usually the time when I'm not interested in the opposite sex at all. Image IPB


actually the study that I read involved something very different

essentially humans have different types of colonies of bacteria living on them and different types of immune systems, as a result of variations on the part of our genome called the "major histocompatibility complex."

In this experiment, a group of female college students smelled t-shirts that had been worn by male students for two nights, without deodorant, cologne, or scented soaps.

An overwhelming number of women preferred the odors of men with a different major histocompatibility complex from their own. However, their preference was reversed if they were taking oral contraceptives. The hypothesis is that MHCs affect mate choice and that oral contraceptives can interfere with this.

Children born to parents with two very different MHCs have stronger immune systems than children born to parents with similar MHCs, so this study seems to show female preference for a mate that will give them children with stronger immune systems.

Modifié par naughty99, 23 juin 2011 - 02:47 .


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Skirata129 wrote...

lol. seriously though I heard that the scent that attacts girls is the scent of another girl, particularly post sex. I find this very perplexing as that's usually the time when I'm not interested in the opposite sex at all. Image IPB


That explains a lot. Isn't the point of the fun fact you shared that it's the same sex scent that is attractive and not the opposite sex?

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I'm betting girls probably ask themselves why do guys always go after the "degenerate nip/tuck silicon ****** airhead şluts".

1) I think its exaggerated , on both sides.
2) Thinking that ways doesn't resolve the issue.

I'd like to give some advice , but i got nothing . Either change your attitude or Look at a girl in particular, instead of looking for what they want in general.

Modifié par Saaziel, 23 juin 2011 - 02:52 .


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awkward guys are less than interesting to women. also, for women, a good man is hard to find. (hehe) I prefer to be single so that I can avoid irritating women with my gaming habits.

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He is only seems like a jerk to those that are jealous.

Modifié par lobi, 23 juin 2011 - 03:14 .


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lobi wrote...

He is only a jerk to guys that are jealous.


Who?

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The archetype then. It's like, 'how dare they be happy together' and not wanna be with whoever it is doing the complaining that gets the home alone card.

Modifié par lobi, 23 juin 2011 - 03:18 .


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Actually you don't have to generate envy to seem like a jerk. You can just go for a walk down the street, kicking people in the groin in a clown suit. Sure, that might be someone who really wants a clown suit and envys you, but that would likely be a very small percentage of the people who you kick in the groin. Most would simply think you are just a jerk.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Actually you don't have to generate envy to seem like a jerk. You can just go for a walk down the street, kicking people in the groin in a clown suit. Sure, that might be someone who really wants a clown suit and envys you, but that would likely be a very small percentage of the people who you kick in the groin. Most would simply think you are just a jerk.


So are we talking about violent people now?

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Actually you don't have to generate envy to seem like a jerk. You can just go for a walk down the street, kicking people in the groin in a clown suit. Sure, that might be someone who really wants a clown suit and envys you, but that would likely be a very small percentage of the people who you kick in the groin. Most would simply think you are just a jerk.


 Violence is an expression of power and dominance.

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www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par lobi, 23 juin 2011 - 03:38 .