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God, not this crap.....red isn't the only color in the rainbow. And likewise neither is attractiveness to jerks....the world is not always high-school from a movie.

So let's stop blaming the girls and look at you. And what you're doing. And who you're trying to.....

Modifié par Montezuma IV, 23 juin 2011 - 04:37 .


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Montezuma IV wrote...

God, not this crap.....red isn't the only color in the rainbow. And likewise neither is attractiveness to jerks....the world is not always high-school from a movie.

So let's stop blaming the girls and look at you. And what you're doing. And who you're trying to.....
 


Go on. continue the epic tirade.

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I feel a bit bad for the OP.

I just want you to know dude: I've been there.

Women are gorgeous, smell great, and they wear those dresses with the little straps and skirts that show off the back of their kneecaps. It doesn't seem fair that they're all so yummy. Then you meet one with a tongue piercing and shiny black boots that somehow makes your heart do the loop-de-loop, but she doen't want you. No, she wants Mr. Spiky Green hair. Some stupid pasty twig boy who listens to Velvet Revolver and misuses logical fallacies despite studying for his BA in philosophy.

Let me tell you, OP, it gets better! You'll lose that 80 pounds, move to Las Vegas, and find that girl who thinks anal sex is great and appreciates your wiliness to go out at 2 am to pick her up egg drop soup.

Then one day, you'll run into Ms. Tongue Piercing and she'll be all over you, but you'll be like, "Sorry, I don't think this will work Kirsten. Also, while I might not have as good a taste in music as Mr. Spiky Green hair, I seem to have something he lacks. A JOB."

But you won't say that to her because you're a nice guy.


Charming.

*caps self at the thought of such a bright future*

Modifié par Gunderic, 23 juin 2011 - 05:06 .


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Because untrained minds of ordinary girls can't stand jerkiness of jerks!

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I think, OP, that you're confusing "alpha male" and jerk, as the first is probably percieved like the second from a third part point of view.

We are, after all, instinctive creatures, living in packs :P

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There are plenty of girls who like nice guys, you just don't know them.

Modifié par Nyoka, 23 juin 2011 - 12:53 .


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This is why i enjoy one night stands because a relationship is too much hassle, i lost a my gf to someone else.

Have not dated anyone else for quite a while, i should of seen it coming, she is hot (to me atleast) and i am average.

A girl did ask me out but honestly, people what i am about to say is not nice at all but i am sure all you men will decline this offer as well, anyway she looked like a replica of Ugly Betty and she has a history of sleeping around.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 23 juin 2011 - 01:09 .


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I've never dated jerks. Why would I want to be with someone who acts like a douchebag?

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This wasn't written by me, but it's a related comment I found on the Internet a while back (in answer to a very similar question). I thought it was fairly accurate and saved it in my draft. Here:

This is a good example of the "nice guy" problem. Being the nice guy gets you no where because you have to compete with two other characters - the good guy and the bad guy. More often than not, men make the mistake of thinking the good guy and the nice guy are synonomous. They aren't.

The bad guy you know already. He has his ways, and he likes to challenge women. He's confident, and leads with that confidence.

The good guy, on the other hand, is the guy that most nice guys are trying so hard to be. The good guy has a lot of traits that the bad guy would have - confidence, an identity of self, personal interests, a greater pursuit for himself. Women are attracted to the aforementioned qualities because it presents a dynamic that is interesting, and a person you can grow with, learn from, and enjoy.

The nice guy thinks he is the good guy, but he isn't. He is too friendly, too agreeable, and seemingly desperate in the eyes of others. I mean this with no offense, but your post shows many examples of this agreeable desperation. You mentioned your approach in saying hi to random people. You mentioned that you "lowered" your standards. Doing this is a disservice to yourself.

Believe it or not, saying hi to a random woman is really intimidating and threatening. They don't know you, and right off the bat you are starting with "hi" (which is super direct and too short) while offering no information or insight into who you are. Now, I am not saying walk up to a woman and immediately tell her your life story and hope she stays around to listen. On the contrary, I am saying that you need to approach women in a way that is friendly but immediately disqualifying yourself as some threat. Show them WHY you are a good guy, where the confidence comes from, and how you are a fun person to be with. Openers are hard, and honestly take practice. Rejection happens far more often than success. Accept this and you are winning a greater portion of the battle.


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Ah, yes, "women"

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Mash Mashington wrote...

Ah, yes, "women"

Also this.

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This again?

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As a  mixed race Asian guy (half Thai here), would girls be even interested in Asian guys? I saw a Asian guy and a white women as a couple, honestly i was really really surprised it is so rare to find a couple like that.

I always thought white girls are put off Asians because of there features and a high chance their child will look like Jackie Chan (a stereotype and i am insulting myself here as a joke).

Who actually thinks looks are important but personality is more important? Lets all be honest here, appearence comes first for all of us, especially me and but who would look pass the physical appearence actually date a Asian girl/boy for their personality?

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 23 juin 2011 - 01:17 .


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Naughty Bear wrote...

As a  mixed race Asian guy (half Thai here), would girls be even interested in Asian guys? I saw a Asian guy and a white women as a couple, honestly i was really really surprised it is so rare to find a couple like that.

I always thought white girls are put off Asians because of there features and a high chance their child will look like Jackie Chan (a stereotype and i am insulting myself here as a joke).

Who actually thinks looks are important but personality is more important? Lets all be honest here, appearence comes first for all of us, especially me and but who would look pass the physical appearence actually date a Asian girl/boy for their personality?


What's wrong with dating Asian people? I think you just need better confidence. I have a friend (Swedish caucasian) who married a Vietnamese guy. Love at first sight pretty much.

I've seen a lot of mixed couples.

Also, jerks are good at hiding that they're jerks.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 23 juin 2011 - 01:24 .


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I have seen loads of mixed couples but a common one is a Asian woman and white/black/hispanic/latino man. However, i have never seen a Asian man with a white women, i find that very rare.

I have never said there is anything wrong with dating Asians. My main curiosity is white women dating a Asian male, i think i have only seen one couple like that which i just explained.

Maybe my confidence does suck and having the Asian male stereotype in my head does not help either.

Is that Swedish woman blonde hair blue eyes by any chance?

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 23 juin 2011 - 01:28 .


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I'll just say that this Little Pony meme needs to die in a fire.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

I have seen loads of mixed couples but a common one is a Asian woman and white/black/hispanic/latino man. However, i have never seen a Asian man with a white women, i find that very rare.

I have never said there is anything wrong with dating Asians. My main curiosity is white women dating a Asian male, i think i have only seen one couple like that which i just explained.

Maybe my confidence does suck and having the Asian male stereotype in my head does not help either.

Is that Swedish woman blonde hair blue eyes by any chance?


What's the Asian male stereotype? *curious*

And yes she is.

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Skinny or fat, glasses, nerdy, very very small eyes, know Karate or any other martial art and bad English. TV shows and movies really don't help either (Hangover Asian guy Chow, the Asian reporter on Family guy, Asian kid on American dad), i could carry on if you want.

Jet Li and Jackie are badass and everything but it still does not help the stereotype of an Asians (knowing Kung Fu).

But i generally think its the Asian features of the Asian male that puts the women off. When i was younger i fit the stereotype very well, skinny, don't know martial arts, glasses and nerdy. Now that i am older i workout, don't wear glasses, still nerdy i guess and  i am not fat. I am self-conscience when i look in the mirror.

Lucky bastard.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 23 juin 2011 - 01:39 .


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Confidence is that feeling by which the mind embarks in great and honorable courses with a sure hope and trust in itself. -Cicero
Confidence is the key, both for jerks or non-jerks (nice, nerds or etc.)

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Montezuma IV wrote...
God, not this crap.....red isn't the only color in the rainbow. And likewise neither is attractiveness to jerks....the world is not always high-school from a movie.

So let's stop blaming the girls and look at you. And what you're doing. And who you're trying to.....


I agree with Montezuma IV. Work on who you are OP.

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@ Naughty Bear, I take it your from some section of the US, sounds more like a self esteem issue to me. And If you can't get a white girl why not Asian or some other? I never seen many asian women in my neck of the woods who weren't with either another asian or white guy. Never seen one with a black. Which is funny as blacks from around here think any as they say "person of color is tight with them." while the funny part is most asian people I've known or whole family segments tend to have an overly negitive view of blacks or are scared of them. That being said in my region I haven't seen many mixed couples but from what I've seen white women in this region tend to be more open with it, and I've seen them with nearly every minority group you can think of.

On the other hands I've seen few black or hispanic women with any other race short of a small handful of whites. Which normally in the black family case carries a stigma. And in the hispanic case if its the wrong family can get you killed (the man that is). And even some whites around here frown on racial mixing, and think if you do it something is "wrong" with you. Or that you have some hidden agenda. Luckly most people fear me and give me no flack on being married to a Chinese girl, though the BS you listed holds true, so as people asking if she knows kungfu.

But anyways yeah I seen plenty of white girls around here with various minorities, blacks and hispanics depends largely on the family but its rare. Asians around here seem to have a "if your going to mix better be white" thing going on but by large stick with other asians only. So yeah come down here sure you could get one. Not that I give a **** on color, you all bleed the same. Culture is another issue, thats why I primarly married a girl from a more tradional family, I can't stand most of the people around me.

Also pft to he above the OP is obviously DCF, not even  money could save him lulz.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 23 juin 2011 - 02:07 .


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Gnas wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...
God, not this crap.....red isn't the only color in the rainbow. And likewise neither is attractiveness to jerks....the world is not always high-school from a movie.

So let's stop blaming the girls and look at you. And what you're doing. And who you're trying to.....


I agree with Montezuma IV. Work on who you are OP.


Yes. Refine your jerkiness and you will be set.:lol:

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Why is this?


They're under 30.

At least that is the reason in most cases...in other cases, not a clue.

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KenKenpachi wrote...

@ Naughty Bear, I take it your from some section of the US, sounds more like a self esteem issue to me. And If you can't get a white girl why not Asian or some other? I never seen many asian women in my neck of the woods who weren't with either another asian or white guy. Never seen one with a black. Which is funny as blacks from around here think any as they say "person of color is tight with them." while the funny part is most asian people I've known or whole family segments tend to have an overly negitive view of blacks or are scared of them. That being said in my region I haven't seen many mixed couples but from what I've seen white women in this region tend to be more open with it, and I've seen them with nearly every minority group you can think of.

On the other hands I've seen few black or hispanic women with any other race short of a small handful of whites. Which normally in the black family case carries a stigma. And in the hispanic case if its the wrong family can get you killed (the man that is). And even some whites around here frown on racial mixing, and think if you do it something is "wrong" with you. Or that you have some hidden agenda. Luckly most people fear me and give me no flack on being married to a Chinese girl, though the BS you listed holds true, so as people asking if she knows kungfu.

But anyways yeah I seen plenty of white girls around here with various minorities, blacks and hispanics depends largely on the family but its rare. Asians around here seem to have a "if your going to mix better be white" thing going on but by large stick with other asians only. So yeah come down here sure you could get one. Not that I give a **** on color, you all bleed the same. Culture is another issue, thats why I primarly married a girl from a more tradional family, I can't stand most of the people around me.

Also pft to he above the OP is obviously DCF, not even  money could save him lulz.


Nope, not from the US but  i do plan to go there one day.

Maybe i do have self esteem issues, i am the only half Thai in my college i believe, we have a group of Ghurka's occasionaly seen around.

I am certainly not scared of black people. If you have a child with your Chinese partner and the child happens to be a male. Ask him when he is of age (15, 16, 17 or 18) and ask if he is happy about his race, and does he ever get teased about his race.

I admit i am the butt of jokes when an Asian stereotype appears on tv, adverts or films. And being half Thai is even more annoying due to Thailand having  3 genders, male, female and transgendered. I try to avoid films which have the Asian stereotype in, i get uncomfortable quite quickly.

There is my reason for why i think dating sucks and why i have one night stands.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 23 juin 2011 - 02:32 .


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Naughty Bear wrote...
Nope, not from the US but  i do plan to go there one day.

Maybe i do have self esteem issues, i am the only half Thai in my college i believe, we have a group of Ghurka's occasionaly seen around.

I am certainly not scared of black people. If you have a child with your Chinese partner and the child happens to be a male. Ask him when he is of age (15, 16, 17 or 18) and ask if he is happy about his race, and does he ever get teased about his race.

I admit i am the butt of jokes when an Asian stereotype appears on tv, adverts or films. And being half Thai is even more annoying due to Thailand having  3 genders, male, female and transgendered. I try to avoid films which have the Asian stereotype in, i get uncomfortable quite quickly.

There is my reason for why i think dating sucks and why i have one night stands.



Ahh the UK?

Hmm, as to the race thing, my newphew is mixed *black and white* from my half sister and he gets alot of ****. And you either let it defne you as he has, and be screwed up, or you define it into the ground. Hell you got to let the crap roll off and around you, I was scrawny growing up, and from a poor working class family, so I got lots of ****, more so with my own heritage, I have several races in me and yet look like a dead white body in terms of skin color.  Minus I have a mongol brow common with Eurasians and oily dirty blode hair.

People made fun of it all the time, more so when it was known my Grand Father was half Cherokee Indian, and when ever some War Dance was played they'ld make some smart ass remark at first it botherd me, and I'm man enough to admit I cried, I hated them all..but that di nothing, and they teased me more on all sorts of things. But later I learned to roll with it and go. "Yeah and you better hope I don't find my head dress and tomahawk." Or with My German Ancestroy "Don't screw with me I know your part French, If germans can do one thing well thats beat up French men." Or my Mongol Ancesstory if my wife or another Chinese says something to me on it or my Manchurian decent, I'll make some remark on tearing down there City walls. I have literally 12 or more races in me,  so I get some crap and learned how to turn that into a strength.

You should do the same, if they make fun of you, just do some stupid Martial Arts stance and mouth off like bruce lee in a bad dub film and remark "Yes that means I can kick your ass I'm asian" And one night stands are over rated and more trouble than they are worth. Don't give a **** what others want and say about you and of you. In the end none of them will mean crap to you, your unlikely to see them and you'll be alot more happy for it.

But what does a mongol mutt know...well minus destruction lulz.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 23 juin 2011 - 02:53 .