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[George-Kinsill]

After finally getting an HDTV, I was finally able to read all the descriptions of all the worlds, and to my surprise, there were many with desciptios of advanced space faring species pre-dating the protheans. These species all were powerful, spanning the galaxy, AND WERE DESTROYED IN A GENOCIDAL FASHION WITH ALL HABITATION CENTERS DECIMATED BY DREADNOUGHT class+ WEAPONS! These panets include Joab, Bothros, Tosal Nym, Aphras, Gaelon, etc. Even mining outposts, which were out of the way and could have easily been captured and exploited by an organic race bent on conquest, were vaorized, with only te smallest traces left, meaning that all these super advanced species did not dissappear via civil war (wich is only logical cause of death whe there is only 1 space faring species) BUT BY PURPOSEFUL AND CALCULATED GENOCIDE BY AN OUTSIDE FORCE BET ON ERASING ALL TRACES OF EXISTANCE!

All of this out of the way, the questio must be brought up, "WHY THE HELL DOES IT TAKE A OOB ARCHAEOLOGIST LIARA AND SHEPERD TO POINT OUT THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONNECTION BETWEEN AL OF THESE EXTINCTIONS!? I mean, if a few extinctions were caused by purposeful geocide and war, the Reaper theory would have no weight. But when every sinle extinction is caused in the same fashion, tou'd think when a hyper-advanced dreadnought class ship comes along, destroys the entire citadel fleet, ad maipuates the citadel in a way that ot even the council knew was possible, all accodring in the way the Reaper theory was presented by Shepard ad Liara, that every thing might click with the council and everything else that these extinctions are related. Instead, the Council in ME2 says there is o evidence supporting the Reaper theory, despite the fact that it was confirmed by their best operative, Shepard, and millions of years of historica evidence. I mean, statistically there would have to be a few planets hastily evacuated if there was a supervolcano extinction, wich would result in Pompeii like perfect preservation, or a few asteroid related extinctions, or something. But no, everyone of these civilizations is destroyed by orital bombardment genocide, almost a traces erased, and the targeted fashion of the bombardment confirmation that it wasn't a natural collision extinction event. So is it just me, or in light of all of this does it seem like the counil has their heads even further up their @sses then previously thought?    

Modifié par George-Kinsill, 23 juin 2011 - 01:48 .

[ForumPortal]

I'm not reading this novel.

[Hathur]

Caps + walls of text..

[crimzontearz]

the Salarians openly know Reapers exist...The concil still denies their existence tho

[JigPig]

Don't mind the average denizens of BSN, they have a reading level on par with a banana.

[Hathur]

JigPig wrote...

Don't mind the average denizens of BSN, they have a reading level on par with a banana.

It's also common etiquette & courtesy to break one's writing up into small, comfortable to read paragraphs with a hard return every 2-3 sentences... if you want someone to take the time to read what you write, show some courtesy and: 1) Don't use caps. 2) Break up your paragraphs.

Modifié par Hathur, 23 juin 2011 - 12:44 .

[AngelicMachinery]

The Council is indoctrinated!

[Praetor Knight]

George-Kinsill wrote...

So is it just me, or in light of all of this does it seem like the counil has their heads even further up their @sses then previously thought?

Drawing from history, it took a lot to convince a majority of people that the Earth was round.


And plate tectonics and an interconnected global weather system have been tough to accept for some in recent decades,

so I'd say that the Council is at least too human in adjusting to newer ideas!

[KevShep]

I wanted to tell the council this every time but bioware wont let me.. I (shepard) could do a better job of diffending my theory of the reapers invading then what bioware is letting you say to them! I agree that there is enough evidence there to actually do something about it and why they chose to do nothing makes me think...indoctrinated or just really stupid. Ether way I saved them (ME1) so I could kill them myself.

[RAF1940]

I thought the Council only knew about the Protheans.

[crimzontearz]

RAF1940 wrote...

I thought the Council only knew about the Protheans.

well......Mordin wrote a dissertation on Reaper indoctrination....Maelon cites it too

Salarians know about the reapers and given their government structure and phylosophy they believe him

[King Zeel]

I don't know what you expect from a sci-fi game, but so far your expectations are grand indeed.

[George-Kinsill]

crimzontearz wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

I thought the Council only knew about the Protheans.

well......Mordin wrote a dissertation on Reaper indoctrination....Maelon cites it too

Salarians know about the reapers and given their government structure and phylosophy they believe him

When I heard Maelon cite Reaper indoctrination, I smiled since finally, some one else not in my ary believes in Reaper indoctrination, but did I miss something n the codex that stated the Salarians as a whole believe in them? Ad if so, why is the Salarian councilor also dismisively skeptical if he is supposed to represent his species? 

[George-Kinsill]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mass extinctions are nothing special. We've had several of them on Earth alone.

Mass Extictions such as super volcanoes, asteroids, global climate change, eve a gamma ray burst, sure. But calculated orbital bombardment genocide destroying all traces of existance, even mining infrastructure that could easily be taken and exploited for resources? That is unique, and hasn't been seen by any modern citadel species. Even the batarians only resort to these tactics when it is impossible to do otherwise.

[lazuli]

Find a different word for your title, please.

[TexasNationalist]

The people who believe these theories are called "para-historians" in the planet's description, meaning their theories fall outside the range of established historical research. Although the descriptions do admit that scientists find asteroid impact and supervolcanoes implausible as a reason for Bronze Age species to go extinct.

[King Zeel]

lazuli wrote...

Find a different word for your title, please.

I don't think he's going to.

[TexasNationalist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

George-Kinsill wrote...

Mass Extictions such as super volcanoes, asteroids, global climate change, eve a gamma ray burst, sure.

We've had extinctions of entire nations and peoples through wafare as well. Does that mean there is some hidden menace on Earth that periodically culls the human population? Of-course not.

The mass extinctions in the Mass Effect universe have been the result of similar wars. Wars not too different from the wars against the rachni or the krogan. Neither of those wars involved Reaper armadas.

So, in the end, the Council sees these much more ancient conflicts and they don't look very out of the ordinary.

One of the planets in ME2 discusses a race that was in its Bronze Age, and was wiped out in a short matter of time with huge craters in population centers.  (I believe the codex says it happened 50,000 years ago.)  Apparently the only life on the planet is now single-celled organisms. 

Bronze Age cultures don't have WMD.  It would have to be a spacefaring species.  Not necessarily the Reapers, but definitely not a natural hazard or Bronze Age warfare.

[TexasNationalist]

Double post, please delete.

Modifié par TexasNationalist, 23 juin 2011 - 01:24 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

michaelrsa wrote...

TexasNationalist wrote...
One of the planets in ME2 discusses a race that was in its Bronze Age, and was wiped out in a short matter of time with huge craters in population centers.  (I believe the codex says it happened 50,000 years ago.)  Apparently the only life on the planet is now single-celled organisms. 

Bronze Age cultures don't have WMD.  It would have to be a spacefaring species.  Not necessarily the Reapers, but definitely not a natural hazard or Bronze Age warfare.

Some other species came across them and wiped them out for their resources. Doens't mean it was the Reapers.

Ah yes "Reapers" all----*gunshot*

Wrex: I've wanted to do that since the first game.

[88mphSlayer]

the council is retarded because of everything, especially their rigid views of status quo

the fact that spectres basically work on the premise that they tell the council what they want to hear while going about doing pretty nefarious stuff is just icing on the cake