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An advanced ship is by definition advanced, but I think I see what you’re getting at, and you’re missing the point. The idea is not to show that Sovereign was a Reaper, but to show that Sovereign was different from geth vessels. When two vessels differ in virtually every aspect of their composition, components, and construction, the logical conclusion is that they have separate origins.
Between the two theories of 'Reapers' vs. super-advanced Geth warship, the Reaper theory requires a fundamental reconstruction in terms of belief. "Reapers exist. They are responsible for all technological advancement and have purged the galaxy of all life for the last 37 million years." This is a difficult belief to accept, especially when it comes at odds with everything organics believe to be true.
The Geth warship, while problematic, is still in-keeping with how the Council and the galaxy at large still perceives reality.
Which Shepard has. You seem to be confusing the concepts of ‘evidence’ and ‘proof.’ NONE of the evidence before the Council proves Shepard’s story, ALL of the evidence supports it.
It's simply an issue of semantics. We can put it your way too, if you like. There exists 'evidence' of Reapers which the Council has no means of accessing. Hence, there is no means of 'proving' their existence.
The concept of ‘burden of proof’ does not necessarily come into play in an inquisitorial proceeding. The onus is on the Council to accurately determine the events leading up to and circumstances surrounding the Battle of the Citadel, a task they failed at, even when everything they needed was dumped in their laps.
Virmire: obliterated by a nuclear warhead.
Feros: no evidence.
Ilos: Vigil shuts down.
Noveria: Benezia is dead and the Rachni Queen is either escaped/dead.
The Council is at fault here because they could not find non-existent evidence?
The reason I won't list the evidence supporting Shepard is because it's simply too voluminous. It's EVERYTHING! Every recording, every video, every after action report, every comm. log/sensor log/door log, every interview made, every analysis conducted. ALL of it will support Shepard.
What recordings? What reports? What interviews? If evidence exists as you suggest it does, you should be able to point out the most significant aspects.
And Liara is far from the only reputable scientist Shepard’s can point to and say “See! Just like I said.”
What scientists? And no, Chorban alone won't do it.
I’m sorry for mocking you. But, in all seriousness, if you truly believe this then your perception of reality is so far different from mine that I don’t think a productive conversation between us is possible.
'Truth', as you are describing it, does not work as an argument. What is true and what evidence I have of that truth are two entirely different things.
If only I know vampires exist, I cannot convince other people because it's the truth. Other people will be convinced based on existing evidence of vampires. The Reaper theory follows this. Truth alone is meaningless.
If your forwarding that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/proof" I agree. And I contend that if an actual Reaper coming out of a mass relay to blast a hole clean through the centre of galactic defenses doesn't qualify as extraordinary, nothing does.
You are assuming your own conclusion. You must prove Sovereign is a Reaper for what you are suggesting to work.
Modifié par Il Divo, 26 juin 2011 - 04:02 .