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DarkSeraphym

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Iamnotahater wrote...

Secondly, the werewolves were cursed/dieased. It should have spread across the known world. No reason for it to be localized to just ferelden.


Perhaps this comes out of a modern world-view, but Thedas appears to lack things like the combustible engine and airplanes. The only reason why diseases spread today is because the world is more connected globally than it has ever been in human history with a massive transportation network. Since Thedas appears to be lacking that kind of interconnectivity, I do not necessarily see why it should have spread globally.

Now as far as Mass Effect 3 goes. I really hope that developers don't become infected with the binary thinking of Paragon and Renegade. I was probably 65/35 throughout the game. Some of us don't make decisions based on what we want the world to be, we base decisions on how the world is. I really hope that Bioware considers those players who live/play in the middle.


I agree here. However, I think the series has evolved into exactly that kind of thinking. Especially when being predominantly either Renegade or Paragon was the only way to convince Jack and Miranda or Tali and Legion to give up their personal animosity for one another.

For those who made shortterm decisions based on the here and now it should be accurately reflected in the Mass Effect 3 universe. 

For those who made harder decisions at the time for a more positive long term outlook. Those decisions should be reflected in the Mass effect 3 universe.

I just didn't feel that was the case with DA II. I hope it is for Mass Effect 3.


Once again, I agree. However, keep in mind that simply because you make decisions in the short term does not mean that they could not have been the right one. Same goes with making long-term decisions that could not have been the wrong ones. However, I do not necessarily think Mass Effect was very well constructed for that kind of application anyways. I ran into a lot fewer major decisions that were made with a short-sighted view in Mass Effect than I did with Dragon Age. Perhaps this is because the Mass Effect is much larger and more connected?

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 23 juin 2011 - 05:35 .


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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien

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Eurhetemec wrote...

Most of these characters, you didn't actually have a chance to kill them

The whole point people are making about ones whom we didn't have chance to kill (but possibly did threaten) is that it would then apply to ALL ME importers not just the Paragons who let them go.

Put it this way, if it is Balak, am expecting him to be doing a Shepard and attempting to knock out a ME Relay that is in a human based solar system.... somewhere like, ooh I dunno... SOL

What ya Paragons gonna do now eh? Kill him and thus let SOL get wiped out or let him go again whilst you save SOL.

Course Renegades won't have to worry about him being in said situation because they already killed him for a lesser figure. :P

#303
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I think the queen has the biggest chance.

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I'll probably break down crying if it turns out to be Shiala. :(

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Alestia Iallis. Of course, I don't have very many playthroughs where she survives.

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Jibbed34 wrote...
- Rachni Queen (indoctrinated? or maybe just evil all along) 
- The Thorian (no real indication that it was 'dead')
Balak (douche to begin with, very anti-human. Post-Arrival massacre = super-anti-human-douche)
- Urdnot Wrex (as a joke)
- Corporal Toombs (enemy of Cerberus, angry email in ME2)
- Fist (Shepard messed up his operations in ME1, wasn't happy to see us in ME2)
- Ethan Jeong (another douche, seemingly hated Shepard for no obvious reason)
- Ambassador Udina (douche #3, most Shepards chose Anderson over him for Council)
- Rana Thanoptis (involved in 2 illegal programs stopped by Shepard, squad-mates disagree letting her go)
- Helena Blake (sketchy in ME1, 'changed her ways' in ME2...)
- Shiala (indoctrinated in ME1, Benezia said process was 'irreversible')
- Administrator Anoleis (anti-human, Shepard gets him arrested)
- Conrad Verner (will he finally prove he is as great as Shepard... by killing him?!)


If all of these happen my Shepard will be screwed.

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social.bioware.com/%5Burl=http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7706723/1 

I just came from this thread. 

:happy:

Foot in mouth, I'm talking about the OP in the thread I posted, not this one. 

I've no idea who it could be. Lizbeth Baynham. 

:P

#308
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I'm kinda hoping that it would be the rachni queen. It would give the whole "consequenses have an effect" a real meaning. We know they have husks made out of them, would it be too hard to beleive that they could be indoctronated and turn on Shepard? But at the same time doesn't it seem too obvious?

We've talked about Balak, but what about Charn the only reasonable batarian in the galaxy? I've let him go in a couple playthroughs and do you think after arival he'll be just as nice as he was in BDTS?

But really it can be anyone from the first game.

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Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't the decision to save/kill the Rachni queen available in the Genesis comic? The wording of the tweet, to me, implies a decision that was made in ME1 and imported from there. If it was something available to everyone via the catch-up, then the wording of tweet would make no sense. I wouldn't think the queen would be a candidate in that case.

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DarkSeraphym

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Thessair wrote...

Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't the decision to save/kill the Rachni queen available in the Genesis comic? The wording of the tweet, to me, implies a decision that was made in ME1 and imported from there. If it was something available to everyone via the catch-up, then the wording of tweet would make no sense. I wouldn't think the queen would be a candidate in that case.


It is possible, but would BioWare have been willing to admit that it was also available in Genesis if it was indeed the Rachni Queen anyway?

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DarkSeraphym wrote...

It is possible, but would BioWare have been willing to admit that it was also available in Genesis if it was indeed the Rachni Queen anyway?


True, but wouldn't have been easier in that case to simply eliminate the specific game reference and let people speculate about characters from ME1 and ME2? It seems like we're meant to know it's someone that had to be imported from ME1. Of course it's all just speculation at this point and I'm probably reading too much into it.

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Udina is so obviously douchey and unpopular, he will do something heroic and awesome in ME3, I can feel it.
I think the Rachni Queen and Balak will be decicion some Paragons will regret.

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Not that I think it likely, but I haven't seen anybody mention the exo-geni scientist on, I believe, Nodacrux. The one who offers to bribe you after you rescue her and the other survivors from the thorian creepers.

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Balak would be amazing. It makes sense too. He's already pissed off because you ruined his plans, now you've blown up an entire system, killing 400 000 Batarians.

"You shouldve killed me when you had the chance Shepard... now watch as I blow up THE NORMANDY!!!"

Noooooo *reload ME1 DLC and start all over again*

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I think you forgot about that convict from Jack's recruitment mission.
He did mention that he'll find you and kill you because he was too dumb.
This is part of the message he sends you.

"You did take a shot at me though on my way out so I have to kill you, you know how it goes. Dad taught me that you let anybody hurt you, they get ideas so you make sure to send a message, not like I'm sending now, though! See you around, the people who live here are coming back and it's showtime! Look around for your name, I'll make sure you find it before I find you! Billy..."

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kumquats wrote...

Udina is so obviously douchey and unpopular, he will do something heroic and awesome in ME3, I can feel it.
I think the Rachni Queen and Balak will be decicion some Paragons will regret.


Bah, bite your tongue! Udina is an ass, but he gets **** done by being one!

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Battlepope190 wrote...

kumquats wrote...

Udina is so obviously douchey and unpopular, he will do something heroic and awesome in ME3, I can feel it.
I think the Rachni Queen and Balak will be decicion some Paragons will regret.


Bah, bite your tongue! Udina is an ass, but he gets **** done by being one!


I never said Udina isn't good at what he does...I only said he is so unpopular that he will do something very awesome, like punching the Turian councilor. So why should I bite my tongue?

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kumquats wrote...

Udina is so obviously douchey and unpopular, he will do something heroic and awesome in ME3, I can feel it.
I think the Rachni Queen and Balak will be decicion some Paragons will regret.

Inquisition seems to show that he is a much darker character than we previously thought.

My money is on Balak or an indoctrinated Rachni Queen, her being 'evil all along' makes no sense to me.

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I'm thinking it's going to be Toombs. He has the name for it.

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It's obviously the Turian Councilor.

Shepard: Velarn!
Velarn: You've come, Shepard! Welcome to my glorious finale!
Shepard: What are you doing? Where's the other councilors?!
Velarn: Gone! They were in my way, now the Citadel is mine!
Shepard: You're mad!
Velarn: You should've killed me when you had the chance!
*Shepard throws grenade*
Velarn: Ah yes, "grenades". We have dismissed this claim.
*grenade disappears from existence*
Shepard: My god.

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Phaedon wrote...

kumquats wrote...

Udina is so obviously douchey and unpopular, he will do something heroic and awesome in ME3, I can feel it.
I think the Rachni Queen and Balak will be decicion some Paragons will regret.

Inquisition seems to show that he is a much darker character than we previously thought.

My money is on Balak or an indoctrinated Rachni Queen, her being 'evil all along' makes no sense to me.


No, they are not evil, but I think I remember from the Rachni in ME2, that someone made them agressiv and I think this could happen again in ME3. I don't remember exactly what she said.

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I don't know why but every time I read a post, I think it could be Ashley/Kaidan....

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Why would any of those be "words every ME1 importer wants to hear" when they could be dead already.

It has to be someone Shepard runs into, but doesn't kill no matter what you do.

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Lorik Qui'in maybe?

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I agree with the Harkin guess. He was the first to come to mind for some reason.