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[Ahriman]

MrCairo wrote...

I don't hate him, just can't take him seriously.

That was for a previous posters. Your post is from same category though.

[Bolboreta]

I don't know what to think about new Liara. She was so sweet and naive in ME1. I couldn't take her seriusly in ME2 because I expected the same tender asari scientist. I think she changed too fast, two years don't seem enough to me for that change.

Also, I wish Bioware were more careful with Miranda's angles. I can't have a serious conversation with an ass in my screen >.<

[Dark Eff3ct]

I like all the squad mates in both ME1 and ME2... It's just i wish some of the characters were developed deeper in ME2 like Jacob, Kasumi, Garrus, and i think that's all.

Jacob - I thought he would be an interesting character with some dark or mysterious past; i was wrong, the only thing about him that was remotely interesting was his choice of clothes. I can't take that man serious either because of his romance either. That whole thing is hilarious to me.

Kasumi - She is my favorite ME2 character and ties with Liara as my favorite ME character ever, but the only problem i have with her is i don't get a dialogue wheel when talking to her; not that big of a deal, just something that bugged me. She does make me laugh though lol

Garrus- I loved him in ME1, but in ME2; he really said nothing after half the game was complete and that really annoyed me. Not really a serious issue, just a pet-peeve one.

Modifié par Dark Eff3ct, 23 juin 2011 - 04:59 .

[l DryIce l]

jbblue05 wrote...

Tali-  She shows up like bad copper.  She's so annoying and I want to smash her visor in everytime she backtalks me.   If you don't like what I did Tali, fu** off and leave noone is forcing you to stay here.

Garrus- Their js a reason I didn't recruit you in ME1 noiw I'm forced to recruit you in ME2 and why does Bioware assume we're buddy-buddy  I am very racist towards Turians and Batarians.

Liara-  Everything good happens to her its sickening.  She's like a spoiled child that gets everything handed to her

Samara-  Self-righteous douchebag.  Don't lecture me you hypocrite

Not sure if serious.  

[Dark Eff3ct]

sorry double post

Modifié par Dark Eff3ct, 23 juin 2011 - 04:56 .

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I like EDI, I always figured her human qualities were just part of her programming.

[DJRackham]

Slurms McKenzie wrote...

Whatshisname: Mess sergeant Gardner. I mean he cooks and cleans the toilets! Is that really necessary?

Someone has to do it.

[Homebound]

DJRackham wrote...

Slurms McKenzie wrote...

Whatshisname: Mess sergeant Gardner. I mean he cooks and cleans the toilets! Is that really necessary?

Someone has to do it.

goddam man, not at the same time!!

[Homebound]

Antivenger wrote...

Lady Catastrophe wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...
I loathe Ashley. Ever since i found out her feelings towards other species, everything else she said was sort of like this: www.youtube.com/watch
and she's religious which adds its own layer of stigma over her racism.

QFT

Extrospection FAIL.

Because.....?

[DoNotIngest]

l DryIce l wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Tali-  She shows up like bad copper.  She's so annoying and I want to smash her visor in everytime she backtalks me.   If you don't like what I did Tali, fu** off and leave noone is forcing you to stay here.

Garrus- Their js a reason I didn't recruit you in ME1 noiw I'm forced to recruit you in ME2 and why does Bioware assume we're buddy-buddy  I am very racist towards Turians and Batarians.

Liara-  Everything good happens to her its sickening.  She's like a spoiled child that gets everything handed to her

Samara-  Self-righteous douchebag.  Don't lecture me you hypocrite

Not sure if serious.  

Probably. They say they're racist, and just look at their avatar pic...

[DoNotIngest]

VolusNamedBob wrote...
I like Zaeed, but I fail to take him seriously. At all. There's just something about him, he comes across more like Grandpa Simpson than a grizzled veteran.

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

[Lozark]

Liara.  I have never been able to take Liara seriously.  From her trying to jump down Shepard's pants within the first five minutes of meeting her/him, to her monotone voice (which gets really funny in LotSB when her face emotes and her voice doesn't), I have never understood her appeal or even what the writers were going for with her.

At first I thought I just had issues with the asari (I don't think the writers really thought through exactly what a thousand year lifespan means, and got a little stuck on the sexy bits, even if the asari are apparently a reference to the sort of beautiful green aliens that space captains tend to hook up with in sci-fantasy), but in ME2 the asari were a little more varied and less sexy space elf, and I ended up even liking Samara more than I thought I would, while Liara was still the same boring blue monotone.

Part of what gets me is that I think the player is expected to like Liara, hence her apparently undying loyalty to Shep, while I just don't see anything about her to like or hate.

That felt good to get off my chest.

[RO-Bear]

The only character I have an aversion to is Liara. She retrieved Shepard's body. A little creepy, but okay, saving the galaxy deserves at least a proper burial. Then she gives the corpse to Cerberus to be experimented on! Not cool.

I really can't take some of the fans seriously though. "Tali is a fangirl, Kolyat is a bad assassin, Ash is racist, Mordin is a funny singing guy". Stuuuuupid.

[Asari_Party]

Garrus

G: "Hey Commander Shepard, I'm Garrus. I couldn't find any evidence against Saren."
S:  No problem, I'll do it myself

G: "Hey Shepard, I tried to catch an evil scientist, but he escaped"
S:  I'll help you

G: "Shepard, you're alive. These evil mercs try to kill me!"
S:  I'll deal with them!

G: "I put my own squad together, like you did."
S:  Awesome!
G: "They are all dead."
S:

G: "Shepard, there's this traitor..."
S: *sigh*

[Ryzaki]

Jack. She's all bark and no bite.

[RO-Bear]

Ryzaki wrote...

Jack. She's all bark and no bite.

More like a nibble.

"Imma kill you, cheerleader!"

*Lightly pushes a chair towards Miranda*

*Miranda nudges it slightly to the right*

Understated ^here^, but I honestly thought the confrontation could have been more violent. Can't take that scene seriously, I guess.

[Ryzaki]

RO-Bear wrote...

More like a nibble.

"Imma kill you, cheerleader!"

*Lightly pushes a chair towards Miranda*

*Miranda nudges it slightly to the right*

Understated ^here^, but I honestly thought the confrontation could have been more violent. Can't take that scene seriously, I guess.

 

I really couldn't because she marched up to Miranda like some teenager are started raging about something Miranda had nothing to do with. 

The fact that Shepard can't throw her off the ship at the nearest port afterward boggles the mind. 

[AngelicMachinery]

Roxy12 wrote...

Garrus

G: "Hey Commander Shepard, I'm Garrus. I couldn't find any evidence against Saren."
S:  No problem, I'll do it myself

G: "Hey Shepard, I tried to catch an evil scientist, but he escaped"
S:  I'll help you

G: "Shepard, you're alive. These evil mercs try to kill me!"
S:  I'll deal with them!

G: "I put my own squad together, like you did."
S:  Awesome!
G: "They are all dead."
S:

G: "Shepard, there's this traitor..."
S: *sigh*

Awww Garrus,  it's okay that you suck...  just keep trying to be awesome.

[Costin_Razvan]

Hmm...so many characters I can't take seriously...sigh..

First off Lawson: Excuse me if I dislike the so called perfect woman who's only in there for the boobs, ass and sex. She has the personality of a brick.

2) Grunt.
3) Jack.
4) Jacob.
5) Thane.
6) Kasumi.

[AngelicMachinery]

Ryzaki wrote...

RO-Bear wrote...

More like a nibble.

"Imma kill you, cheerleader!"

*Lightly pushes a chair towards Miranda*

*Miranda nudges it slightly to the right*

Understated ^here^, but I honestly thought the confrontation could have been more violent. Can't take that scene seriously, I guess.

 

I really couldn't because she marched up to Miranda like some teenager are started raging about something Miranda had nothing to do with. 

The fact that Shepard can't throw her off the ship at the nearest port afterward boggles the mind. 

Eh,  in Jack's eyes she has everything to do with what happened.  She's a cerberus lapdog and a high ranking one at that.  She's also what?  Eighteen-nineteen years old?  She's not the pinacle of emotional stability.

[Antivenger]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Antivenger wrote...

Lady Catastrophe wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...
I loathe Ashley. Ever since i found out her feelings towards other species, everything else she said was sort of like this: www.youtube.com/watch
and she's religious which adds its own layer of stigma over her racism.

QFT

Extrospection FAIL.

Because.....? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

LPPrince wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Babli wrote...

Congratulations BiowEAr, you ruined Ashley for me. Thanks.

Really? How so? I alwyas found her to be quite unikeable because of her bigotry and racism.

Well, in all actuality she isn't a racist nor a bigot.

Talk
to her long enough instead of basing opinions on a few misconstrued
statements and you find out that she doesn't hate aliens(she might not
like them too much though) but that due to her family effectively being
thrown in the dirt after her grandfather surrendering in the First
Contact War, she feels we need to put more trust in ourselves than
aliens.

Put it this way-

You've got a friend and a
stranger who can drive you somewhere. You've known your friend for a
long time and he's trustworthy, while obviously you have no clue who the
stranger is. Who do you trust more?

Her argument is that we need
to put more trust in our friend rather than the stranger. Humans, over
aliens. Because if we put too much faith in them, they could easily
throw us to the dogs what with us being the new guys on the block.

Makes
perfect sense. But through talking with her, you can change her views.
Make her realize that she should direct some of that lack of trust at
humanity since it was humans who made her family look bad after the
First Contact War. Humans decided that her family should be somewhat
"blacklisted". Humans look down on her.

And then? She not only
lightens up, but she comes to trust aliens more. To the point where she
suggests saving the Council when the Destiny Ascension is under attack.

As for her, "I don't like aliens, but I'll never join Cerberus" comment in ME2, I think the first half of that was just bad.

That's
the fault of the writers, not her. Once changing her views in ME1, she
shouldn't of said that. As for not joining Cerberus, she still views
them as a Pro-Humanity group that wants all others(in other words,
aliens) put down.

She'll never join them. Why? Because she knows
that many in Cerberus are racists. She also slams Charles Saracino
towards the end of ME1 when he tries to get Commander Shepard to back
him for becoming leader of the Terra Firma party. Why?

Because
she feels Terra Firma is a group for racists. If she were a true racist,
she'd of jumped on Cerberus and Terra Firma's bandwagons at the first
opportunity. She didn't.

She knows that racism is wrong. She knows that wanting to slaughter people because they aren't human is evil.

She'll never do it. BUT-

She
hasn't been exposed to aliens much at all. Doesn't know how to react to
them, doesn't know who to trust and not trust, and is still in sort of a
limbo state.

Its up to Shepard to make her see that she can in
fact trust the other races. Its up to Shepard to make her see that
aliens aren't going to stab us in the back at the first opportunity.

She's
got built in trust issues due to a lot of understandable factors. Its
hard to kick what's ingrained into your mind from a young age.

But Shepard can do it. Shepard can make her finally release all those pent up trust issues.

That's what Ashley fans are doing. That's what we're trying to do. That's what we can hopefully accomplish in ME3.

In
ME1, we got to make her see that. In ME2, we don't know what went
wrong(lore wise). In ME3, its finally time to get Ashley to realize that
we're all on the same team no matter what planet we were born on and we
can trust them just as much as we can trust our neighbors here on
Earth.

That's why we don't hate her. That's why we don't call her a racist or a bigot.

She's a victim. She needs help. And we're going to give her the help she needs.

This is extrospection WIN.

[Ryzaki]

AngelicMachinery wrote...
Eh,  in Jack's eyes she has everything to do with what happened.  She's a cerberus lapdog and a high ranking one at that.  She's also what?  Eighteen-nineteen years old?  She's not the pinacle of emotional stability.

 

Which is a childish and dangerous attitude to take. And flat out wrong. And it's kind of ridculous that it takes until her and Miranda's loyaty missions are complete for something to happen. 

You're right about her not being emotionally stable. Which makes it even more ridculous that she's a forced recruit while Samara's optional. It should be the other way around if anything. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 juin 2011 - 06:58 .

[RO-Bear]

Ryzaki wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...
Eh,  in Jack's eyes she has everything to do with what happened.  She's a cerberus lapdog and a high ranking one at that.  She's also what?  Eighteen-nineteen years old?  She's not the pinacle of emotional stability.

 

Which is a childish and dangerous attitude to take. 

You're right about her not being emotionally stable. Which makes it even more ridculous that she's a forced recruit. 

O' dems Cerberus. They genuinely try to save the world by resurrecting Shepard, unintentionally sabotage his mission with crap decisions and then go against everything they believed in by helping the Reapers.

Can't take dem seriously, oh no you can't.

[AngelicMachinery]

Ryzaki wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...
Eh,  in Jack's eyes she has everything to do with what happened.  She's a cerberus lapdog and a high ranking one at that.  She's also what?  Eighteen-nineteen years old?  She's not the pinacle of emotional stability.

 

Which is a childish and dangerous attitude to take. 

You're right about her not being emotionally stable. Which makes it even more ridculous that she's a forced recruit. 

If were taking emotional stability as the only way to choose characters than the only character in game will be Jacob.