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[mineralica]

VolusNamedBob wrote...

Jacob.

<...>

Damn. It's the only ME2 romance I haven't done for my Shepards and I was going to complete this gap on the holidays. Now I just sit and giggle and have serious doubts I'll be able to go through this.
Now I have a romance I can't take seriously

[Antivenger]

Golden Owl wrote...

telling him how perfect she is meant to be.

I wonder here, are her claims meant to be taken at face value? Some fans probably believe her, but I call bull.

[DoNotIngest]

Jacob's romance is more interesting when they're with someone other than Shepard.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 24 juin 2011 - 07:48 .

[Fidget6]

mineralica wrote...

VolusNamedBob wrote...

Jacob.

<...>

Damn. It's the only ME2 romance I haven't done for my Shepards and I was going to complete this gap on the holidays. Now I just sit and giggle and have serious doubts I'll be able to go through this.
Now I have a romance I can't take seriously

It was my first ME2 romance, and I couldn't stop laughing when the scene actually came on. I paused momentarily to admire the abs, and then went back to my laughing fit. xD

[Valikdu]

Thane, Jacob, Grunt.

[CrookedAsylum]

Jack. Jesus Christ, I disliked her from the moment my Paragon shep was forced to sabotage a prison to recruit her. Her, a mass murderer who has no remorse for said murders, and my Shep who just did something entirely out of character and killed a bunch of people for her.

And then, herp derp, her murdering people is okay because she's an angsting, scared child!

Jesus, I couldn't take her - or the way she was implemented into the game - seriously at all.

[upsettingshorts]

Jacob/FemShep has some of the best interactions in the game if you look for them. Pretty much the only instance outside of LOTSB that Shepard gets to say how he/she feels. That said, the two VAs pretty much ruin any hope that that relationship had with their cartoonish delivery.

As far as the thread topic is concerned: Tali and Thane.

[Iakus]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Jack. Jesus Christ, I disliked her from the moment my Paragon shep was forced to sabotage a prison to recruit her. Her, a mass murderer who has no remorse for said murders, and my Shep who just did something entirely out of character and killed a bunch of people for her.

And then, herp derp, her murdering people is okay because she's an angsting, scared child!

Jesus, I couldn't take her - or the way she was implemented into the game - seriously at all.

Agreed, her background and attitude were both way over the top.  Makes Kaidan's talk about BAaT look like summer camp.  As a concept, Jack was interesting (Cerberus lab rat turned emotionally damaged fugitive).  But they took it way, way too far.  

EDI:  Given that in ME1 every single synthetic, be it AI or rogue VI was trying to kill you, the general fear and distrust that organics have for synthetic life forms,  the fact that EDI was a Cerberus product, and the choice of actress for the voice, I would have expected a bit more ambiguity in her motives.  Some doubt as to where her true allegiances lie.  The Collector ambush on the Normandy should have been a Moment of Truth where we find out who's side she's really on.  But no, there's never any real doubt she's a White Hat.  One who gets all the expository dialogue.

[slimgrin]

It would have to be Jack.

I liked Jack's story and background, but I get the sense they included her to try and cater to a younger crowd. Would much prefer Samara, as she's a character worthy of more developement.

Modifié par slimgrin, 24 juin 2011 - 04:16 .

[Chromie]

slimgrin wrote...

It would have to be Jack.

I liked Jack's story and background, but I get the sense they included her to try and cater to a younger crowd. Would much prefer Samara, as she's a character worthy of more developement.

Agreed. Also gonna throw in Isabella. These two characters felt like if it were meant for the younger crowd.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Jack she's crazy why did I have to bring her along? Is there really no strong or capable biotics left in the world that I need messed up criminal one for my mission? I really wanted a substitute for her.

[BatmanPWNS]

I didn't dislike any character but the characters I considered average were;

Jacob- Just a plain soldier

Miranda- Sex appeal?

Liara- Don't have anything much except she's unkillable.

[VoidCabbage]

Man I'm just glad none of this ever happened for me. I loved every (main) character. Well I mean, I hated Miranda for her personality but not because it was cliche or whatever. I still enjoyed her story though. (enjoyed hating her)

Jacob is easily the most realistic. Put on some heavy armor and you should please the whole realism crowd with carbon copies of him. Straight up soldier guy, listens to his commander and (generally) keeps his private life out of it.

that said I'm not really all that interested in realism, I like the more over the top characters.

Jack for me was the most interesting... I'm 22 so maybe I'm the "younger crowd" I honestly don't know or care... I don't see how being the younger crowd is a negative.

Garrus aswell, we see eye to eye and since ME1 he's been my right hand man.

Modifié par VoidCabbage, 24 juin 2011 - 10:55 .

[VoidCabbage]

Ringo12 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It would have to be Jack.

I liked Jack's story and background, but I get the sense they included her to try and cater to a younger crowd. Would much prefer Samara, as she's a character worthy of more developement.

Agreed. Also gonna throw in Isabella. These two characters felt like if it were meant for the younger crowd.

Come on man... you have pikachu and Trapinch in your sig... how old are you that you're looking down on the younger crowd?

I say looking down, because thats the vibe i get with bring up "catering to the younger crowd" in a thread about characters you can't take seriously...Just seems like there is some negativity there.

[Labrev]

Oh yes, and how could I forget Liara. Asari in general, in fact. It's a damn shame that BW felt the need to be like every other sci-fi and create a "space-babe" race. God forbid they be original. Serves them right that reportedly 80% of all players end up switching their romance from Liara. Tali is probably a more popular LI, and her race wasn't one that was designed specifically to be drooled over.

Seboist wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

they
really coulda taken thane farther than they did..Grunt's biggest flaw
was being Krogan and how Krogans are basically the cliche warmongering
savages, it wouldve been morre interesting if his conflict was coming to
terms with the warrior race ideals of his people...EDI reminds me of a
story leanard neemoy once said rregarding his spock character and how he
had no fanmail until that one episode where spock's human feelings
broke out.

One missed opportunity with Grunt was a mother/father and son relationship between him and Shepard.

You are so right about that! Seriously, what kind of jerk kidnaps a teenager with no parents just to use as a battering-ram for his suicide mission? Shepard should have been able to offer some guidance, damn tank imprints can't be enough. Instead, Grunt was pretty much just a trophy. Damn shame.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

They all have their moments. Writers and voice actors are human beings, after all.

But when I'm playing, those three are the only ones that can break my immersion by just feeling more like characters than people. Everyone else, I can believe.

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Oh look it's this thread again.

I haven't seen a thread like this. Do show me one if you can though, I'd like to see it.

[The Baconer]

Jack and Miranda.

[Medhia Nox]

What I would like to see on this thread is how people would improve upon the characters.

[mauro2222]

Give to Miranda a personality and thats all.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Make Jack Riddick w/o the glowing eyes and not insane.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 25 juin 2011 - 02:30 .

[Labrev]

Medhia Nox wrote...

What I would like to see on this thread is how people would improve upon the characters.

EDI: needs to make emotional inflections subtle, dialogue should be less dramatic too and yet still able to convey the idea that she does "care" about what's going on. Like "even if I weren't, you are my crewmates it is my job to ensure the safety of all members of this crew."

Grunt: how about a complaint here and there when Shepard & squad are left having to narrowly escape death for the umpteenth time. "I like a good fight Shepard, but I want to live more too" rather than eagerly running into a buzzsaw all the time.

Thane: personality flaws, kind of we're-all-human moments.

[Iakus]

Medhia Nox wrote...

What I would like to see on this thread is how people would improve upon the characters.

Jack:  Dial it back.  Say, down to an 11

Jacob:  More talk of his time with the Alliance, and why he left.  Put him in armor that makes him look less like a superhero sans cowl.

Miranda:  Either show her using her looks like she claims she does, or put her in something more functional looking than Spandex

EDI:  Should have made her more menacing at first.  Too late now.

Thane:  Give him a purpose for being recruited.  Would help if he had an outfit that looked more functional and less like the cover of a romance novel.

Samara:  give her a zipper.  Also would have been nice to make her and Morinth's situation more morally ambiguous

Grunt:  Explore the fact that he was made with Collector tech more.   More talk about his implanted memories, or his search for a purpose.  Something to make him more than a walking mass of random violence.

[Merlin 47]

Kaidan - I can't take him seriously, because I find him about as exciting as paint drying.

Miranda to a lesser extend, because, let's be honest - she's just there for sex appeal. IF you can get past that, however, she's actually not a bad character.

[PiercedMonk]

Samara is so ridiculous, it's like she's from some other plane or existance where silly nonsense is commonplace. She lives by a strict space samurai code of honour, yet it has a loophole in it so she can hang out with Shepard, regardless of his conduct or the company he keeps?

Morinth is nearly as bad. She's like a silly parody of a vampire. "Ooooo...I like things that are dark and violent, and I'm just trying to be who I am." Samara is lucky that despite being more ridiculous, her daughter is the more annoying of the two.

Also, The Illusive Man. First, he calls himself The Illusive Man. I loved the lead up to the release of ME2 when all the voice actors were talking about their characters; it was obvious that Martin Sheen couldn't take it serriously when saying, "I play, 'Illusive Man.'" Second, he's got this entire organization which basically commits acts of murder and douchebaggery on other humans as means of protecting humanity from alien...what? Attack? Influence? What are his motivations? And how is it he's so succesful? It makes no sense.

[Neria Rose]

Medhia Nox wrote...

What I would like to see on this thread is how people would improve upon the characters.

Ironically, Bioware did almost everything right with improving Liara. They got rid of the "I'm so young and virginal and naive about humans and I know you only met me yesterday, but you get to teach me -everything-, especially mating, you know Asari mate like -this-!" crap and turned her into a strong character. They replaced her bruised-eye and chubby-cheek look in ME1 (and the eye twitch? I don't remember) with what I thought was a much more mature look. Unfortunately, she retained the annoying raspy voice and Bioware didn't acknowledge that some Shepards were really repulsed by her, so her retrieval of Shepard's corpse and the armor she has in her apartment makes her creepier than ever (to me).

I give them props for trying, though.

Modifié par Neria Rose, 25 juin 2011 - 04:55 .