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[Spectre_907]

I'd rather have the technology and information be preserved and in my enemy's hands knowing I can take it from them than not have that information at all. Destorying the base is foolish.

Modifié par Spectre_907, 23 juin 2011 - 07:53 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Maybe Legion is a geth infiltrator sent to weaken us from within with clever propaganda.

"Geth do not infiltrate"


@Bogsnot, I actually think this time around there won't be a 'Default' Shep for newbies. I reckon the 'comic' or whatever it is they are adding for the 'previously on mass effect' will be how newbies start off. As previously pointed out, if that was the case they wouldn't have had Wrex there if it had been default because if they were keeping up with default decisions, Wrex would be dead.

@Mesina if keeping the base is not pointless, then why you chosen to keep it in your worse playthrough?

See if I were to agree with your comment about it not being pointless then that means my worse playthrough is even more superior to yours seeing as I destroyed it

[CroGamer002]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Lyvef1re wrote...

Short of Mordin, Legion was the most smart and most rationally minded character on the Normandy

No he isn't. If you followed his philosophy on the Suicide Mission you'd wind up with a lot of dead squadmates.

No Thanix cannon upgrade.

No shield upgrade.

No upgrades that aren't strictly of human design.

That's why Legion is a fool and Bioware is too if they try to enforce his view on the game-world since they've already shot themselves in the foot.

EDIT

Oh, and don't forget EDI: the ship's new artificial intelligence... who saved the mission in numerous occassions.

This.

That he presents his views with a halo of logic doesn't make it right. I can't cease wondering about the data that made him come to these conclusions. Must be pretty convoluted.

I have no idea what Saphra Deden proves in that post and even less why the hell you are supporting it and your point.

Modifié par Mesina2, 23 juin 2011 - 09:06 .

[CroGamer002]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Maybe Legion is a geth infiltrator sent to weaken us from within with clever propaganda.

And they, didn't even do anything to weaken us.
They were also seen in Mass Effect 3 Demos HELPING Shepard.

Also Legion is actually they, not he.

[CroGamer002]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

@Mesina if keeping the base is not pointless, then why you chosen to keep it in your worse playthrough?

See if I were to agree with your comment about it not being pointless then that means my worse playthrough is even more superior to yours seeing as I destroyed it

Read that blog again.

I destroyed that base.
Ecael kept the base in her worst playthrough.

[CroGamer002]

^I think Legion said that it shouldn't be used beyond Reapers.

[Seboist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Wasn't Legion one of the squadmates who supported keeping the base?

...and then changed his mind.

Yep, Mordin,Grunt and Garrus also have mind crushes about it afterwords. The only one who doesn't is Zaeed only because he has nothing to say.

[sighineedname]

I find Mordin's opinion the most strange after his speech on his loyalty mission. He goes on about how destroying the research on the genophage would waste the sacrifice of those already dead. For some reason this same logic does not apply to the collector base. I'm sorry, but if machine-god's are coming to eliminate the galaxy (and SOON, mind you) I'd take any tech I could get as fast as possible. They're not exactly going to be left with a lot of time for R&D.

That being said, I of course metagamed and destroyed it on my full paragon play-through. I'm sincerely hoping that it bites me in the ass. I'd like to see some of the paladin-Shepard's major decisions be wrong, or at least not optimal, from the galaxy's utility perspective.

[CroGamer002]

Keeping the base to use it against Reapers? Ofcourse they'll find it good idea.

Give it to Cerberus? Ofcourse they won't like it.

[Someone With Mass]

If I had the option to give the base to anyone else but Cerberus, I would've done it. Now all I can do is hope that there's something that can be salvaged.

[lovgreno]

In fact we, Shepard, Legion, TIMmy and everyone else has basicaly no idea of how the base may be usefull or/and dangerous, so I wouldn't take Legions opinions on the matter too seriously.

Keeping the base is far from pointless, in fact it may very well be vital for defeating the reapers. Yes, it's a very high risk with those sneaky indoctrination traps the reapers love and Failberus incompetence. Yes the base may just as well contain nothing usefull at all. But on the other hand Shepard takes a just as high risk when he hopes to find a other option for defeating the reapers.

I must say I kind of like the idea of TIMmy getting the last laugh on Shepard though. In fact Shepard doesn't get outsmarted nearly enough.

[Undertone]

It would be funny if keeping the game yields positive results. Imagine all the paragons screaming "WHY WAS I PUNISHED!?!?!?!??!". Unfortunately I doubt Bioware will do something like that because everyone knows they are the foster kids that have everything turns out right.

[Whatever42]

Bioware won't punish renegades.

I bet it will play out like this. Cerberus has turned or has been turned. This is good for renegade Shepard, who never really liked TIM anyway. This allows him to defeat Cerberus and take over his assets, like the base. In the end, Shep will control the base in charge of a new Cerberus which will be an important part of a xenophobic Earth.

[goofyomnivore]

Someone With Mass wrote...

If I had the option to give the base to anyone else but Cerberus, I would've done it. Now all I can do is hope that there's something that can be salvaged.

I never understood that logic for destroying the Collector Base. You're more afraid of Cerberus than the Reapers? Anything Cerberus may do with that base isn't as bad as what the Reapers will do.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
Relying on "hope" to save you from annihilation is folly.

Putting that much faith in a glorified blender is equally as stupid.

[Omega Torsk]

Though we didn't know this over a year ago, keeping the collector base just gives Cerberus extra ammunition to use against us in the next game. I say let it burn, regardless.

[Someone With Mass]

strive wrote...
I never understood that logic for destroying the Collector Base. You're more afraid of Cerberus than the Reapers? Anything Cerberus may do with that base isn't as bad as what the Reapers will do.

No, but I don't want to deal with their bull****.

Besides, they're the enemy in ME3, so why give them a potential weapon they can do more damage with?

Considering that they're so laughably incompetent that they can't even contain any of their valuable information or projects without killing about 99% of the project staff.

[Eurhetemec]

Mesina2 wrote...

Collector Base might be more important to Reapers then we think it is.
So I think that Illusive Man allies with Reaper with HIS terms if you keep the base.


Which I think are no indoctrination on him and Cerberus employees. Also Illusive Man takes some tech from Collector Base to use it to backstab Reapers.

You're right that TIM would use it to ally with the Reapers on more even terms.

You're wrong to think he'd backstab them unless it was to ensure that only human-Reapers survived, I'd suggest.

[CroGamer002]

strive wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

If I had the option to give the base to anyone else but Cerberus, I would've done it. Now all I can do is hope that there's something that can be salvaged.

I never understood that logic for destroying the Collector Base. You're more afraid of Cerberus than the Reapers? Anything Cerberus may do with that base isn't as bad as what the Reapers will do.

They f*cked up Overlord pretty badly and almost doomed entire galaxy without any Reaper help.

[Techo Angel]

Keeping the base probably just made it easier for Harbinger to brainwash Cerberus easier...