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[Whatever42]

EvilSavior wrote...

Though it is a sad ending, it's the most realistic. It took so much to kill just one with basically everyone fighting, and now there's an army. How could it possibly go any better? Though it was a freak accident shepard almost died fighting the first reaper too ya know. The only possible outcome of people living is if bioware comes up with some super abstract star trek make-everything-better plot device that seemingly comes out of nowhere. Like a newfound weakness or a bigass gun. That just doesn't seem real to me.

There is nothing really realistic about this series. Shepard beating Saren in ME1 was not realistic. Him gunning down a baby reaper in ME2 was not realistic. Giant killer robots are not realistic.

ME is not a dark, gritty series. Its a space opera and happy endings are the norm there. If they suddenly decide that it has an inevitable tragic ending then they are defying the conventions of the genre. That's fine if they do that but they should expect legions of angry, pissed-off fans.

Heck, when your character in FO3 died (which should not be unexpected given that genre) people were pissed and they eventually retconned it. When a certain character in DA2 died, many, many fans were outraged. 

Bioware won't kill Shepard. It might be a possibility like in ME2 but even if it was their artistic vision, I can't seem them poking their fans in the eye like that.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 23 juin 2011 - 02:39 .

[HighMoon]

I just hope it isn't too cliched.

Liara: Shepard, no! T_T
Shepard: I'm sorry Liara, but this is the only way. I wish I could change that, but we've come too far now.
Liara: But I.. I..!
Shepard: Hush now, love. This isn't the end, I'll always be in your heart, watching over you till the day you die.
Liara: I.. I love you Shepard.
Shepard (wiping tears from Liara's eyes): I know, Liara. And so do I. Always. Now let us share one last kiss together.
*The two embrace and share a passionate kiss*
*Shepard slowly backs away, smiling at Liara*
Shepard: Goodbye, my love.
*Shepard runs off to death in slow/motion*
Shepard:

[Whatever42]

Golden-Rose wrote...

I just hope it isn't too cliched.
 

How about:

Liara: Shepard, no! T_T
Shepard: I'm sorry Liara, but this is the only way. I wish I could change that, but we've come too far now.
Liara: But I.. I..!
Shepard: Hush now, love. This isn't the end.
Liara: I.. I love you Shepard. 
Shepard (wiping tears from Liara's eyes): I know, Liara. And so do I. Always. Now let us share one last kiss together.
*The two embrace and share a passionate kiss*
Shepard: Goodbye, my love.
*Shepard grabs Liara and throws her into the maw of the oncoming Reaper and then runs to safety*

[Smeelia]

xentar wrote...

I would prefer an ending where you destroy the reapers at the cost of the universe (perhaps, space, time, existence as we know it) itself.

That could be an interesting one if it's a choice between that and letting the Reapers win (but knowing that life will go on, as will the cycle).

[HighMoon]

Bahaha! I nearly laughed myself to tears. Poor Liara. XD

[Raiil]

I'm hoping there is an option to go out, guns blazing, saving the world at the cost of my life. Hell, let my best friend and my LI come with me while we're at it.

Sometimes freedom requires sacrifice.

[CajNatalie]

Sometimes going out with a bang is the best way.
If done right, Shepard dying could be epic in certain endings.

It's not about doom and gloom. It's about facing impossible odds that may require you to take one for the team (the team being the entire galaxy) to get the job done.

[VaticanVice]

I want there to be two "Shepard dies" endings: One that's amazingly badass and heroic, something like pressing the big red button to detonate the Reaper-killing bomb... while on a Reaper. And one that's significantly more inglorious--maybe even a 'you failed' ending, but that might be going too far for an actual endgame.

I also want them to be easier to get than the "you died" ending in ME2. You really had to be Too Dumb to Live or else work your butt off to actually die in the Suicide Mission.

HOWEVER. While I want these endings to be present and a very real possibility, I definitely don't want them to be the only ones. I want to be able to work hard, do everything right, and walk away in one piece (preferably limping, but in one piece) after saving the galaxy. With my LI. And all my buddies still alive. I want it to be hard, though--no Dark Ritual-style "fix it" button. I want to have to plan carefully and work for it.

But ultimately, without endings that result in Shepard's death, happy endings have less meaning.

[JamieCOTC]

I have a feeling it won't be quite as hard to get Shep killed in ME3 as it is in ME2, but we'll still probably have to work at it.

I certainly don't want a scripted death for Shepard, but at the same time, that would close the book on Shepard for good. No running off to find the true sith at the end. For me personally, I can see my canon Shep going out like the Warden, but ultimately I hope there are several endings we can enjoy.

[HopHazzard]

CommanderNuetral wrote...

*spoiler for inFamous 2 *

I recently just finished inFamous 2 with the good karma ending. Cole dies, so do all the monsters and conduits like him. But his fat stupid traitorous sidekick gets all better and so do the rest of the normal humans. And the twist at the end basically just turned the whole game into a damned if you do damned if you don't pile of dog crap. And it was effectively (would take too long) impossible at the end to actually change the direction for your choice.

It was stupid and unsatisfying. I swear to god if I get railroaded into a Shepard dies ending because of all the "shepard needs to die for the story to be meaningful" idiots on this board I'm going to be royally pissed off.

I think we should ALL get to have the ending we want for our Shepards' stories, like Bioware has been touting the whole time. If you want the reapers to win, fine. Shepard and LI and squad live happily ever after, fine. And any place on the spectrum in between, within the capabilities of the game.

Thank you. You have saved me the money on that game and the PS3 to play it on.

[Homebound]

if u dont like how things turned out, its as easy as trying again.

[gunswordfist]

There's going to be at least one ending where he dies and one where he lives. Everyone knows that

[jamesp81]

xX N7 Xx wrote...

 I don't understand how you guys can be satisfied with that ending. Personally I would find it a waste of time if I spent all that time on a game and just died in the end.
Discuss... 
Also no flame wars or fighting of any kind, these are opinions, nothing more.

-= N7 =-

I mostly agree.

I require that the game make it possible to save Earth and prevent anyone's extinction.  Shepard and crew surviving if you do it just right is also something I want.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Its not a waste of time its called replay value.
I also killed my entire squad in ME2 just too see what happens in final one.

[jamesp81]

CommanderNuetral wrote...

*spoiler for inFamous 2 *

I recently just finished inFamous 2 with the good karma ending. Cole dies, so do all the monsters and conduits like him. But his fat stupid traitorous sidekick gets all better and so do the rest of the normal humans. And the twist at the end basically just turned the whole game into a damned if you do damned if you don't pile of dog crap. And it was effectively (would take too long) impossible at the end to actually change the direction for your choice.

It was stupid and unsatisfying. I swear to god if I get railroaded into a Shepard dies ending because of all the "shepard needs to die for the story to be meaningful" idiots on this board I'm going to be royally pissed off.

I think we should ALL get to have the ending we want for our Shepards' stories, like Bioware has been touting the whole time. If you want the reapers to win, fine. Shepard and LI and squad live happily ever after, fine. And any place on the spectrum in between, within the capabilities of the game.

I agree 100% with this post.

I will also add something else.  I want an Earth and the aliens survive ending regardless of consequences for the crew.  This preserves the ME universe for use in future games.

[CarsRG8]

I also agree with the notion the that people should be able to able to choose their preferred endings and that there should be multiple ones.

Call me idealistic but personally if Shepard's death is compulsory in me3 - unfortunately I wont be buying the game no matter how good the story and mechanics are.... It would just be too depressing (I'm praying that BioWare are listening!!!). However its not looking good with the fact that they have said that me3 ends shepard's story. I hope they do not go the halo/master chief route!

Modifié par CarsRG8, 09 janvier 2012 - 10:49 .

[stysiaq]

I'd prefer the ending when you gather the Elements of Harmony and defeat Reapers with the Magic of Friendship.

[RyuujinZERO]

Long story short. A heroic sacrifice ending can be moving, epic and memorable done right. handled wrongly it can seem like an ass-pull or heavily forced.

Given ME has thus far stayed often in morally ambiguous terrain with a variety of outcomes it's likely there is more than one "good" ending, one or more of which end in a sacrifice others do not; kind've like Deus Ex 1 (NOT DE:HR, that was retarded the ending)

[Icinix]

7 Months eh?

I'll bite - Because thats the character I play. The kind that would give themselves for others entirely.

Quite frankly I don't know why you would be satisfied with a Shep single handedly shoots their way through the Reapers and everyone lives happily ever after. Its soo...soo..disgustingly rainbowy.

[xentar]

Icinix wrote...

7 Months eh?

I'll bite - Because thats the character I play. The kind that would give themselves for others entirely.

Quite frankly I don't know why you would be satisfied with a Shep single handedly shoots their way through the Reapers and everyone lives happily ever after. Its soo...soo..disgustingly rainbowy.

Well, the unmistakable color of fecal matter is what real life, not games, is for.
Besides, not all people actually signed up for a war story when starting ME1.

[seirhart]

I'd rather all of my shepards have a happy ending where they live the reapers defeated and s/he fly off with their ship and LI to roam the galaxy or live the rest of their days with their li on some planet away from everyone.

[Icinix]

xentar wrote...

Icinix wrote...

7 Months eh?

I'll bite - Because thats the character I play. The kind that would give themselves for others entirely.

Quite frankly I don't know why you would be satisfied with a Shep single handedly shoots their way through the Reapers and everyone lives happily ever after. Its soo...soo..disgustingly rainbowy.

Well, the unmistakable color of fecal matter is what real life, not games, is for.
Besides, not all people actually signed up for a war story when starting ME1.

In all honesty I agree with you - and I can't stand the "Well real life you can't choose who lives and dies blah blah blah"

I play games because they're not real life. If games become like life - why the hell would I play them?

[RyuujinZERO]

xentar wrote...

Well, the unmistakable color of fecal matter is what real life, not games, is for.

Well in "real life" a civilisation with a 40 million year technological headstart would brush our civilisation off the map like so much dust. The fact we can even defeat the reapers is a pretty big break from reality without making it rainbow-happy-bunny-land

[xentar]

RyuujinZERO wrote...
Well in "real life" a civilisation with a 40 million year technological headstart would brush our civilisation off the map like so much dust.

That's what I usually say to people who state that the story wouldn't be realistic without forced deaths.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

I think the large majority of players would be pissed with that ending but some people like the dark "everyone dies" endings.

I can see it as a possible ending, as in ME2, but not a likely one.

I consider the everyone dies ending to be more a Japanese thing they like doing that more then US does but when applied correctly it does work for instance SPOILERS Siren all characters die, they killed themselves or  became overwhelmed by the plague made 100% sense as you played that game there really was no hope of survival for anyone and all the characters knew it. SPOILDER END Fatal frame usually gets one person out alive but like Resident Evil you've got to suspend your belief on that one just like with Silent Hill all 3 of them if they did do the everyone dies ending would've been 100% in sync with how the games were the fact they didn't was cliche and too Hollywood.

I think it should be harder to get the shep lives and the shep + everyone on his crew lives endings. It should be easier get the shep dies or shep + most of his crew dies endings. You should hidden quest that you must seek out and do, shep's past decisions, his past relations with crew, finding reaper beacons in 3 and interacting with them ( social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/8267836), Shep's cybernetic level as made by the player, and several others to figure out will shep get:
 
The 1st (he dies but saves the day) ending

2nd (he + crew die but save the day)

3rd (he + crew dies and don't save the day reapers win)

4th ( he lives but loses some crew saves day)

5th ( he + crew live and save day)

And a hidden 6th ending ( he lives, crew dies, and the reapers win and capture shep)

It would be easier to get 1 and 2, a challenge to et 3, and hard to get 4 and 5, and really hard to get 6. Though the difficulty in obtaining the endings is not in your game difficulty for instance an easy player has just as much potential to get any of those endings if he tries as a hardcore one.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 09 janvier 2012 - 06:57 .