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SlyTF1 wrote...

Well...at least I'm not alone. Another thing that really annoyed me in Origins is that no matter how far from the enemy you moved, if they where locked on you, you still got hit when they attacked. It still did this in DA2 but it wasn't nearly as often. The only time that it happened was that slash attack that the Arishok does when you fight him.

this makes kiting much easier right?

[Kaneda Kei]

SandiKay0 wrote...

No you're not alone. I like this game more becuase of the story and characters.

Really? This piece of crap story line and the shallow characters?
WTF!!
Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

[Persephone]

You're not alone, no.

I too enjoy most of DAII more than DAO. But I do love both games and wouldn't want to be without either of them. :happy:

[Persephone]

Kaneda Kei wrote...

SandiKay0 wrote...

No you're not alone. I like this game more becuase of the story and characters.

Really? This piece of crap story line and the shallow characters?
WTF!!
Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

Let's see:

Been playing RPGs since the 80ties. Including Larps & P&P.

Finished DAO about 20 times.

Still prefer DAII.

SHOCKING, right?

Yeesh, personal attacks like that are bloody uncalled for!

[jlb524]

SlyTF1 wrote...
I'm kind of new here (I've been registered, but haven't really posted anything.) but I need to ask this question. Am I the only one?

No.

[Whatsupnewyork]

Persephone wrote...

Kaneda Kei wrote...

SandiKay0 wrote...

No you're not alone. I like this game more becuase of the story and characters.

Really? This piece of crap story line and the shallow characters?
WTF!!
Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

Let's see:

Been playing RPGs since the 80ties. Including Larps & P&P.

Finished DAO about 20 times.

Still prefer DAII.

SHOCKING, right?

Yeesh, personal attacks like that are bloody uncalled for!

I'd love to see your review of DA2. Definitely,

[Persephone]

Whatsupnewyork wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Kaneda Kei wrote...

SandiKay0 wrote...

No you're not alone. I like this game more becuase of the story and characters.

Really? This piece of crap story line and the shallow characters?
WTF!!
Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

Let's see:

Been playing RPGs since the 80ties. Including Larps & P&P.

Finished DAO about 20 times.

Still prefer DAII.

SHOCKING, right?

Yeesh, personal attacks like that are bloody uncalled for!

I'd love to see your review of DA2. Definitely,

Might even write one, just for you. :happy:

[FieryDove]

Whatsupnewyork wrote...

I'd love to see your review of DA2. Definitely,

I thought about posting one but doubt it would fit in a post. Not to mention looking at my laundry lists of do not like would make it look like I hate DA2...

I will say I do believe I'm the only one who didn't care about re-used maps. Oh well.

Persephone wrote...

Might even write one, just for you.

We can bribe with cookies or brownies, your call.

Modifié par FieryDove, 24 juin 2011 - 06:59 .

[Zjarcal]

@OP

For future reference, you are never alone in anything, there's always someone who will think the same.

And while I would still personally rank DAO a bit ahead of DA2, I sure did love DA2 a lot.

[jlb524]

Persephone wrote...

Might even write one, just for you. :happy:

I wouldn't mind seeing it too

[Persephone]

FieryDove wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Might even write one, just for you.

We can bribe with cookies or brownies, your call.

That would put me in the "bought" category.

But I'll do one and put it in the Review thread. (The one where you may post spoilers)

[Mr.House]

Nope you are not, I know plenty of people who prefer DA2 over DAO. I personally prefer DAO more, but I do find the characters in DA2 alot better.

[Mr.House]

Kaneda Kei wrote...

SandiKay0 wrote...

No you're not alone. I like this game more becuase of the story and characters.

Really? This piece of crap story line and the shallow characters?
WTF!!
Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

It's called having an opinion, peopel have them and they will be diffrent then yours. If you don't like it, then why are you on the internet past your bed time?

Modifié par Mr.House, 24 juin 2011 - 07:39 .

[Alex Kershaw]

But there's one thing I don't understand about this - if you like fast-paced games, why DA2? There are hundreds of fast-paced action games considerably better than DA2 out there.

DAO was fantastic at what it wanted to be. DA2 is just OK at being somewhere inbetween DAO and a flat-out action game.

Sure, some people prefer action games to DAO's combat, and so would prefer DA2's combat, but why not just go play an action game instead?

[ademska]

i like dao, i love da2.

i can't really compare them, though, they're not even in the same genre; one is a high fantasy, and one is a low fantasy. guess which i vastly prefer in a narrative.

[Mr.House]

Alex Kershaw wrote...

But there's one thing I don't understand about this - if you like fast-paced games, why DA2? There are hundreds of fast-paced action games considerably better than DA2 out there.

DAO was fantastic at what it wanted to be. DA2 is just OK at being somewhere inbetween DAO and a flat-out action game.

Sure, some people prefer action games to DAO's combat, and so would prefer DA2's combat, but why not just go play an action game instead?

Because they like the DA setting?

[TEWR]

Persephone wrote...

Kaneda Kei wrote...

SandiKay0 wrote...

No you're not alone. I like this game more becuase of the story and characters.

Really? This piece of crap story line and the shallow characters?
WTF!!
Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

Let's see:

Been playing RPGs since the 80ties. Including Larps & P&P.

Finished DAO about 20 times.

Still prefer DAII.

SHOCKING, right?

Yeesh, personal attacks like that are bloody uncalled for!

I must admit, it's been hard for me to play DA:O lately. I love the story, and think it's for the most part astounding (though there are a few things that could've made it better, but by no means are they things that because of their absence detract from the quality of the game).
 
But the combat, the Fade, the design of the elves and Qunari in Origins save for Sten, and lack of a voiced protagonist really makes it hard to get back into the game again.

That said, DA2 is easier to replay for me because of a voiced protagonist, the combat, and most importantly Varric and Merrill. But I do find the the story to be..... not what it could've been. It also doesn't help that one character I immediately respected upon meeting him was killed eventually for poor storytelling reasons on one side of the spectrum.

But I understand that people have varying opinions, and I usually try not to turn into a jerk and say "You like this piece of crap?!". Because I'm mature (sad really that a 19 year old is more mature then some of the other people on here) and because I do like DA2 for its merits so I would be a hypocrite I think for saying I didn't like it. People like different things. Are they wrong? No not really, unless they like something along the lines of murdering people for fun. Then they're wrong. But for a game? Nope.

People are not simple --- Sten

And hopefully whenever I finish my Warden fanfic I can start on my Hawke fanfic about his real Rise to Power. Also, I'm looking forward to Legacy. It does seem like it will be amazing.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 24 juin 2011 - 08:07 .

[ElnVld]

I like both DA:O and DA2.

[AllThatJazz]

Mr.House wrote...

Alex Kershaw wrote...

But there's one thing I don't understand about this - if you like fast-paced games, why DA2? There are hundreds of fast-paced action games considerably better than DA2 out there.

DAO was fantastic at what it wanted to be. DA2 is just OK at being somewhere inbetween DAO and a flat-out action game.

Sure, some people prefer action games to DAO's combat, and so would prefer DA2's combat, but why not just go play an action game instead?

Because they like the DA setting?

Not to mention the other things that Bio does really well, such as party-based gameplay, pause & play combat, characters, storytelling - as well as already being invested in the Dragon Age world through Origins and possibly the novels. As much as I like Batman, playing Arkham Asylum doesn't really do much for a Dragon Age craving ...

One thing I really don't miss about Origins is the combat slow-dance, that's for sure. I do miss that sense of vastness and exploration which Origins had more of, though still not as much as I would have liked. 

[lionalio87]

Alex Kershaw wrote...

Sure, some people prefer action games to DAO's combat, and so would prefer DA2's combat, but why not just go play an action game instead?

I guess ME or ME2 should be better than our belove DA & DA2 if we want to experience some "action". DA + DA2 is different from ME+ME2 about the story, the settings, and also the combat. We want to experience the different kind of combats with more elements of teamwork than shooting all the time.

[PsychoBlonde]

I liked some aspects of DA2 more than Origins, and some less than Origins. But then, I wasn't sitting here for months going on and on about how Origins was gawd's gift to gaming and DA2 was supposed to be the second coming to prepare us all for the Rapture. Or whatever. Origins had major flaws. It had some neat concepts that didn't live up to their full potential. DA2 had more neat concepts that could have stood more development. I hope that for DA3 they settle on a concept and polish it, but I can understand why they made some of the changes they did.

[ademska]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

I liked some aspects of DA2 more than Origins, and some less than Origins. But then, I wasn't sitting here for months going on and on about how Origins was gawd's gift to gaming and DA2 was supposed to be the second coming to prepare us all for the Rapture. Or whatever. Origins had major flaws. It had some neat concepts that didn't live up to their full potential. DA2 had more neat concepts that could have stood more development. I hope that for DA3 they settle on a concept and polish it, but I can understand why they made some of the changes they did.

i enjoy when people have reasonable opinions instead of screaming all about the board months after release like someone's murdered your cat.

[Loc'n'lol]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

I liked some aspects of DA2 more than Origins, and some less than Origins. But then, I wasn't sitting here for months going on and on about how Origins was gawd's gift to gaming and DA2 was supposed to be the second coming to prepare us all for the Rapture. Or whatever. Origins had major flaws. It had some neat concepts that didn't live up to their full potential. DA2 had more neat concepts that could have stood more development. I hope that for DA3 they settle on a concept and polish it, but I can understand why they made some of the changes they did.

This, in a nutshell.
Too bad that's drowned in an endless sea of "Waaah Bad Game is Bad".

Modifié par _Loc_N_lol_, 24 juin 2011 - 08:47 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Kaneda Kei wrote...

Have you bothered to actually play other rpgs? or have you bothered playing Origins to it's fullest?

You're telling me Varric is a "shallow" character compared to, say, OGHREN?!

If you want to do a one-to-one comparison, here's what I'd say:

Aveline > Wynne
Leliana = Merril
Isabela > Zevran
Varric > Oghren
Sten > Fenris 
Morrigan > Anders
Shale > Sebastian
Alistair > Bethany/Carver, but this is largely because Bethany and Carver are temp characters.
Dog = Dog

Comes out about even.

Arishok > Loghain  (Yes, even with Simon Templeman's voice.)
Seamus > Cailan  (Poor kid.)  
Petrice > Bhelen (Bhelen made me roll my eyes.  Petrice made me want to scratch her eyes out.)
Keeper Marithari > Zathrien (Although the Lady is far cooler than anything Marithari was involved in, so this one's probably a wash.)
Greagoir > Meredith
Irving > Orsino (if you play a mage, if not, Orsino probably beats Irving apart from the collosal stupidity at the end)
Duncan > um, geez, who fills a plot role similar to Duncan, oh, wait, FLEMETH.  Or maybe (urrrgh) BARTRAND.

The main problem is that we got the sub-par major NPC's at the BEGINNING and the END and the REALLY SWEET ones in the MIDDLE, whereas in Origins there were a couple good ones at the beginning, a *ton* of forgettable pointless ones in the middle, then several good ones again at the end.