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[darth_lopez]

Garbage Master wrote...

Is there any dialect in USA? I mean saying a line with few different words in each, said by the people of certain state. like using an old and extinct word which is being used in few places and can't be understood by majority?
I hope you understand what I've written!

you might be able to argue ebonics as a dialect of american english. Some people have argued it is it's own language last time i checked in on it.  aside from that i can't think of anything that isn't slight variation in our pronunciations. You might have a few different words used in the north than south. I know there is a Line called the pin/pen line where once you cross south of the line the words become indistinguishable

There are a few, i think they're called isoglosses, through out the country for example if you live in my area of michigan (southeast) and i would assume the mjority of the state(probably not? :/)  you would know what a coney dog is( it's a chili dog wiht onions and mustard) you would also know what  a paczki is (most of us pronounce it punchki or poonchki and this is a deep fried jelly filled donut traditionally eaten on fat tuesday it's a polish tradition that is widely celebrated here every year).

My linguistic professor used california as an example they have the affix Hella- as in that was hella-cool or something like that widely used ina small area of the state i don't remember where though. I know he also said philidelphians called subs, the sandwich from subway, hoagies or something different I also know in some places they are called something different. Here in michigan they're just subs. then theres the well known Pop vs Soda thing i believe most people in michigan call it pop over soda which i believe is traditional to the south while pop is the northern states traditional or stereotypical word for it.

So nothing that would really stump someone, but i'm sure there are more. There's a sound change called the northern city shift which is casuing some pronunciations to change right now as well (unfortunately my are of michigan is also lit for the shift despite it not being here!)

Hope that answered your question

Modifié par darth_lopez, 24 juin 2011 - 09:46 .

[darth_lopez]

Addai67 wrote...

Garbage Master wrote...

Is there any dialect in USA? I mean saying a line with few different words in each, said by the people of certain state. like using an old and extinct word which is being used in few places and can't be understood by majority?
I hope you understand what I've written!

There are regional differences, but these are usually subtle because of our history as a relatively young, immigrant nation.  I notice a slight difference between California, where I live now, and my home region on the East Coast.  Southern states have a pretty noticeable accent.

For the linguists among us, is it true that the southern US accents are closer to British?  It doesn't sound that way to me at all, but I've heard that somewhere.

i'm fairly certain there is a distinct difference between the two here
(random girl from a carolina)
(hugh laurie)

Honestly i would guess from this there is a distinct pheonetic difference and they dont sound too similar.

edit:i could see how they could be closer my cousin in tenessee almost sounds like a british girl in another video interview.

Modifié par darth_lopez, 24 juin 2011 - 09:47 .

[mousestalker]

Dialectical speech in low country South Carolina (Gullah).

[Addai]

darth_lopez wrote...
My linguistic professor used california as an example they have the affix Hella- as in that was hella-cool or something like that widely used ina small area of the state i don't remember where though.

Bay Area   I think it's become pretty widespread through popular culture.

I know he also said philidelphians called subs, the sandwich from subway, hoagies or something different I also know in some places they are called something different. Here in michigan they're just subs. then theres the well known Pop vs Soda thing i believe most people in michigan call it pop over soda which i believe is traditional to the south while pop is the northern states traditional or stereotypical word for it.

Grinder is another word for sub.

Californians have some words I wasn't used to, being from the East Coast.  I had never heard of a "turnout," which is a spot next to the road where you can pull over to let cars go by, or the verb to turn out.  Freeway instead of highway, chow mein instead of lo mein.  They have a lot more Spanish in common vernacular, food words like taqueria and carne asada for example (but not bodega like any New Yorker would know- those are little corner stores).  Cider is something alcoholic, not just unprocessed apple juice.  I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of atm.

Modifié par Addai67, 24 juin 2011 - 10:21 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ya dirty Yuropeans and ur fancy queen's English. That's not how we be talkin' in 'Merrica.

[Addai]

ReconTeam wrote...

Ya dirty Yuropeans and ur fancy queen's English. That's not how we be talkin' in 'Merrica.

Heh, this reminds me of a friend in New York City who took her relatives from the Midwest on the subway with her.  These good folks did have an accent, but the main thing was- they were really loud.  One of them told me they thought people were staring "cuz we were the only ones talkin Amurrican."  *facepalm*

[TJPags]

Being from NY, I can honestly say that the entire country has an accent, except for me and those who also live here in NY. We talk goodly - it's da rest of ya's dat can't talk good.

Seriously, though, there are certainly a variety of different "American accents" as I'm sure there are in other countries. There are also regional variations in speech, although I'm not sure they can be considered dialects - I'm not an expert on that. As example, the large sandwish I call a hero is called, in various places, a hoagie, a grinder, and a sub. Likewise, when I want a coke, I ask for a soda . . .others ask for a pop.

The one thing that remains true, however, is that my way is the right way.

[KenKenpachi]

TJPags wrote...

Being from NY, I can honestly say that the entire country has an accent, except for me and those who also live here in NY. We talk goodly - it's da rest of ya's dat can't talk good.

Seriously, though, there are certainly a variety of different "American accents" as I'm sure there are in other countries. There are also regional variations in speech, although I'm not sure they can be considered dialects - I'm not an expert on that. As example, the large sandwish I call a hero is called, in various places, a hoagie, a grinder, and a sub. Likewise, when I want a coke, I ask for a soda . . .others ask for a pop.

The one thing that remains true, however, is that my way is the right way.

Pfy ya'll damn yankees.

Thats another thing, I notice some people over sea's call Americans Yankees. 
 Now if that American isn't from the North East, and in prtaicular if they are from the south, never, ever, ever call them a Yankee. More so dito for mentioning, the Civil War or the north favorablly in regions of the South where Sherman dropped the hammer is a good way to get an ass whoopin. Kinda like that dude who after 9/11 went into the arcade got on the flight Sim, and started crashing planes and screaming ALLAH ACKBAR!  Never have I seen so many people beat the **** out of one dude, while Cops stayed out of it and soldiers helped out...well with beating him. Also if in Alabama don't make fun of Nascar. Or mistake someone from NJ/NY for the other.

And judging by the fact that people in my region say sorrow correctly that means we are right. Which means you Yankees know nothing >> lulz.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 24 juin 2011 - 11:47 .

[Wicked 702]

darth_lopez wrote...

you might be able to argue ebonics as a dialect of american english. Some people have argued it is it's own language last time i checked in on it.  aside from that i can't think of anything that isn't slight variation in our pronunciations. You might have a few different words used in the north than south. I know there is a Line called the pin/pen line where once you cross south of the line the words become indistinguishable

There are a few, i think they're called isoglosses, through out the country for example if you live in my area of michigan (southeast) and i would assume the mjority of the state(probably not? :/)  you would know what a coney dog is( it's a chili dog wiht onions and mustard) you would also know what  a paczki is (most of us pronounce it punchki or poonchki and this is a deep fried jelly filled donut traditionally eaten on fat tuesday it's a polish tradition that is widely celebrated here every year).

My linguistic professor used california as an example they have the affix Hella- as in that was hella-cool or something like that widely used ina small area of the state i don't remember where though. I know he also said philidelphians called subs, the sandwich from subway, hoagies or something different I also know in some places they are called something different. Here in michigan they're just subs. then theres the well known Pop vs Soda thing i believe most people in michigan call it pop over soda which i believe is traditional to the south while pop is the northern states traditional or stereotypical word for it.

So nothing that would really stump someone, but i'm sure there are more. There's a sound change called the northern city shift which is casuing some pronunciations to change right now as well (unfortunately my are of michigan is also lit for the shift despite it not being here!)

Hope that answered your question

On the issue of ebonics... Try and understand my neighbor Billy. He's a black guy from the south. I'm fairly good at understanding various accents in English (whereas some people have trouble with that) but Billy puts me to shame. It's an impressive dialect and drawl to be sure.

FYI to people who aren't California familiar, "hella" is a term used by northern Californians. Us southeners don't really partake. We're more the Hollywood/surfer culture obviously. So growing up, there was a lot of "man" "dude" "awesome" "bro" kind of talk.

[Rokky94]

Just have to say, I'm Scottish, so I win.

PS: I have no idea what relevance this has to the topic :S

[Wicked 702]

I got one that's confusing me.

Tirade

I'm my standard American accent, I think I'm supposed to pronounce it "tie-raid". But for some reason I prefer "tear-ahhd". (Hope my phonetics was decent.) Does anyone know what accent that would be? Is it some form of English (Brittany) accent?

[TJPags]

KenKenpachi wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Being from NY, I can honestly say that the entire country has an accent, except for me and those who also live here in NY. We talk goodly - it's da rest of ya's dat can't talk good.

Seriously, though, there are certainly a variety of different "American accents" as I'm sure there are in other countries. There are also regional variations in speech, although I'm not sure they can be considered dialects - I'm not an expert on that. As example, the large sandwish I call a hero is called, in various places, a hoagie, a grinder, and a sub. Likewise, when I want a coke, I ask for a soda . . .others ask for a pop.

The one thing that remains true, however, is that my way is the right way.

Pfy ya'll damn yankees.

Thats another thing, I notice some people over sea's call Americans Yankees. 
 Now if that American isn't from the North East, and in prtaicular if they are from the south, never, ever, ever call them a Yankee. More so dito for mentioning, the Civil War or the north favorablly in regions of the South where Sherman dropped the hammer is a good way to get an ass whoopin. Kinda like that dude who after 9/11 went into the arcade got on the flight Sim, and started crashing planes and screaming ALLAH ACKBAR!  Never have I seen so many people beat the **** out of one dude, while Cops stayed out of it and soldiers helped out...well with beating him. Also if in Alabama don't make fun of Nascar. Or mistake someone from NJ/NY for the other.

And judging by the fact that people in my region say sorrow correctly that means we are right. Which means you Yankees know nothing >> lulz.

Okay, I dunno  what your talking about with sorrow - maybe I missed that - but I have to weigh in on Amy Walker.

That girl ain't from Brooklyn.  No F*ckin way was that a Brooklyn accent.  Sorry, Amy - you f*cked that one up.

*edit :

Wicked 702 wrote...

I got one that's confusing me.

Tirade

I'm my standard American accent, I think I'm supposed to pronounce it "tie-raid". But for some reason I prefer "tear-ahhd". (Hope my phonetics was decent.) Does anyone know what accent that would be? Is it some form of English (Brittany) accent?

I say tie-raid.

Modifié par TJPags, 25 juin 2011 - 12:07 .

[KenKenpachi]

TJPags wrote...

Okay, I dunno  what your talking about with sorrow - maybe I missed that - but I have to weigh in on Amy Walker.

That girl ain't from Brooklyn.  No F*ckin way was that a Brooklyn accent.  Sorry, Amy - you f*cked that one up.

lol first page, read Stanley Woo's post. And pft its obvious shes not, no one from there ever leaves.

[Homebound]

I prefer Australian accents and British accents. Something about them makes you feel like Morgan freeman's reading u a bedtime story near a fireplace.

[RainyDayLover]

Nothing beats the Christain Bale accent.

[TJPags]

KenKenpachi wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Okay, I dunno  what your talking about with sorrow - maybe I missed that - but I have to weigh in on Amy Walker.

That girl ain't from Brooklyn.  No F*ckin way was that a Brooklyn accent.  Sorry, Amy - you f*cked that one up.

lol first page, read Stanley Woo's post. And pft its obvious shes not, no one from there ever leaves.

Ahhh, just saw that.  Okay, I'd "naturally" - as in, using my Brooklyn accent - pronounce it sort of like "saw-row" - I'm not sure how to describe it.  A harder first syllable.  I'd current;t pronounce it sort of "sah-row", with a softer first syllable.

And hey, I left Brooklyn - only to Long Island, but I did leave - haven't actually been back in about 15 years.

Hellbound555 wrote...

I prefer Australian accents and British accents. Something about them makes you feel like Morgan freeman's reading u a bedtime story near a fireplace.

I'll agree completely.  I also find certain southern US accents also quite . .pleasing to the ear.

[Rokky94]

I love the southern American accent. The general american accent is meh. I also like the Irish, Scottish and Australian accents.

[lobi]

Listening to someone from Ohio is like aural sex.

[Maria Caliban]

por favor wrote...

What I'm most curious about, however, is the Standard American accent. I sound almost exactly like this:
www.youtube.com/watch

That's not Standard American. She draws out her words too much. Standard American would be Dan Rather and Connie Chung.

[mesmerizedish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

por favor wrote...

What I'm most curious about, however, is the Standard American accent. I sound almost exactly like this:
www.youtube.com/watch

That's not Standard American. She draws out her words too much. Standard American would be Dan Rather and Connie Chung.

Don't national news people go to Salt Lake City or somewhere similar to learn "Standard American"? That area in Utah is supposed to be as standard as it gets.

[The Baconer]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Don't national news people go to Salt Lake City or somewhere similar to learn "Standard American"? That area in Utah is supposed to be as standard as it gets.

I don't know about the former, but the latter is definitely true. I would know, since I live in SLC.

[Maria Caliban]

SAE is midwestern.



They don't go to that area. They hire speech coaches.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 25 juin 2011 - 03:30 .

[Maria Caliban]

mousestalker wrote...

If anyone is interested, this is my native accent (No bad language). I usually use a neutral North American accent, but that's how I sound with family.

Edited for a better sound bite.

Nice.

I hate my accent.

[Godak]

Maria Caliban wrote...

por favor wrote...

What I'm most curious about, however, is the Standard American accent. I sound almost exactly like this:
www.youtube.com/watch

That's not Standard American. She draws out her words too much. Standard American would be Dan Rather and Connie Chung.

Dan Rather is pretty clearly from good ole' Tay-haus. Connie Chung seems to hide a bit of a North Eastern accent, or something.