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My loyalty is to humanity, so I support the Alliance( even if they are just as useless as the Council in many ways), and Cerberus to some extent (not if they're working for the Reapers). The Council can kiss my ass.

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So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology  ...(SNIP)... You have no problem with that?


They have played the game and discussed it for over a year now. I think its a given they know all there is to know about Cerberus... And its not that different from any other "Loyalty".

Modifié par Saaziel, 23 juin 2011 - 11:54 .


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Well, the Alliance is kind of part of the Council...

Modifié par nitrog100, 23 juin 2011 - 11:06 .


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Whoever pays the most.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?


None whatsoever.



Unity. Peace. Brotherhood.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.

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The council, even if they are somewhat annoying.

Only through each species working together (much like the nations of our tiny rock home) can we survive.

Modifié par Azzlee, 23 juin 2011 - 11:15 .


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Well all I have to say is that I will enjoy gutting TIM, actualy I will let Jack do it if the game gives me that option.

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Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.



Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.



Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 


It's in humanity's interests to reach it's fullest potential with biotics and in regards to Project Overlord I quote Dr.Gavin Archer "If my work spares a million mothers mourning the deaths of a million sons my conscious will rest easy".

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...


Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


@Saphra Deden: I know that i ME2 they rebuilt Shepard and funded his expedition, but really? In overlord they almost caused a techological apocolypse (doing the Reaper's job for them), almost killed a litte girl in Ascension, screwed up a little girl with Jack, gave the Reapers another servent that killed high level turians, a crap ton of people on Omega, and gave the reapers vauabe intel in Retribution, wiped out an entire human colony with Thorian pollon in ME1, almost killed Shepard on Akuze with Thresher Maw experiment (and killin 50 alliance marines), preformed brutal experiements o Asari children, killed all lab members in Rachni experients (and drove Rachni insane), had all their operatves turn into husks on the direlect Reaper, and almost had Anderson killed.
Whew! Did I miss anything? You may say that TIM was not directly responsible for Overlord and Jack, but his lack of oversight is still the cause of untold suffering, and the end of civilization as we know it! Even if you're the "Ends justifies the means" type person, the means employed by Cerberus always seem to fail epicly, and are a bad investment.      

Modifié par George-Kinsill, 23 juin 2011 - 11:25 .


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Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.



Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 


It's in humanity's interests to reach it's fullest potential with biotics and in regards to Project Overlord I quote Dr.Gavin Archer "If my work spares a million mothers mourning the deaths of a million sons my conscious will rest easy".


I know an angry bald chick who was tortured by cerberus that would like to have a word with you.  Sorry but the ends do not justify the means.  Never been a fan of the "getting the job done no matter what" mantra that cerberus drones are always running.

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T.I.M. : Sheppard, Illusive man. I'm glad that you killed the - Cerberus special-opts team impostors- sent after you by the council . My communication array was jammed by the Reaper invasion , but i have now re-established my encryption cypher, its good to see you alive. I know the Alliance secret services have been spreading false rumours on my "supposed indoctrination" in an attempt to sway you against me. I hope i still have your trust , I cannot fulfil my vision for Üman dominance without you .

Now i know I'll be asking a lot from you, but i know you'll do whatever it takes for the betterment of Ümanity. Sheppard , i want you to commit Seppuku .

---Critical mission failure---

Modifié par Saaziel, 23 juin 2011 - 11:27 .


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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.



Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 


It's in humanity's interests to reach it's fullest potential with biotics and in regards to Project Overlord I quote Dr.Gavin Archer "If my work spares a million mothers mourning the deaths of a million sons my conscious will rest easy".


I know an angry bald chick who was tortured by cerberus that would like to have a word with you.  Sorry but the ends do not justify the means.  Never been a fan of the "getting the job done no matter what" mantra that cerberus drones are always running.

SO MANY QUOTES!!!! Cerberus sucks and the Alliance and Citadel are part of the same group now.

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Saaziel wrote...

T.I.M. : Sheppard, Illusive man. I'm glad that you killed the - Cerberus special-opts team impostors- sent after you by the council . My communication array was jammed by the Reaper invasion , but i have now re-established my encryption cypher, its good to see you alive. I know the Alliance secret services have been spreading false rumours on my "supposed indoctrination" in an attempt to sway you against me. I hope i still have your trust , I cannot fulfil my vision for Üman dominance without you .

Now i know I'll be asking a lot from you, but i know you'll do whatever it takes for the betterment of Ümanity. Sheppard , i want you to commit Seppuku .

---Critical mission failure---


Would you kindly...

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.


Elaborate


TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.


AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.



So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?


Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.



Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 


It's in humanity's interests to reach it's fullest potential with biotics and in regards to Project Overlord I quote Dr.Gavin Archer "If my work spares a million mothers mourning the deaths of a million sons my conscious will rest easy".


I know an angry bald chick who was tortured by cerberus that would like to have a word with you.  Sorry but the ends do not justify the means.  Never been a fan of the "getting the job done no matter what" mantra that cerberus drones are always running.


The Subject Zero project was proven a success by Jack being able to hold the biotic barrier in the SM. Cerberus wins again baby.

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In overlord they almost caused a techological apocolypse...


No, they didn't. When Cerberus Command detected a problem they sent their toy Shepard to investigate and fixed it. It was a catastrophic accident, one nobody could have predicted. Frankly, I question whether the situation was ever as severe as Archer thought it was. The human/VI hybrid is the core of the program, a physical thing. There are limits to how far it can reach. I doubt it could have ever done a lot of damage beyond hacking the Normandy. Anyway, that's just speculation on my part. The point is, Cerberus took care of the problem before it became a problem.

More importantly though, Overlord was a stunning success and a major breakthrough. It has provided humanity with the means to defeat the geth in a war if one ever comes. It was worh the price.


"almost killed a litte girl in Ascension"

They never had any intent to harm her. She was a valuable asset.

"screwed up a little girl with Jack"

It paid off in the end. We learned more about human biotics and created a biotic powerful enough to rival a matriarch. Cerberus also put her to use on a mission critical to the survival of humankind.

"gave the Reapers another servent that killed high level turians, a crap ton of people on Omega, and gave the reapers vauabe intel in Retribution"

Valuable intel? I wouldn't go that far. I also wouldn't blame Cerberus for any of that. The only reason Grayson escaped was because of Anderson's intervention. It was Cerberus who devoted all resources to taking him down. The Illusive Man even risked his own life toward that end. Regardless, it was worth it. We need to learn more about Reaper tech including how they control their thralls accross time and space.

"wiped out an entire human colony with Thorian pollon in ME1"

No they didn't.

"almost killed Shepard on Akuze with Thresher Maw experiment"

Made him the man he is today. Shepard should thank them.

"preformed brutal experiements o Asari children"

Very much worth it. We need every advantage over the asari we can get.

"killed all lab members in Rachni experients (and drove Rachni insane)"

The rachni weren't insane. In fact, that is what made them so dangerous. Cerberus underestimated them. A true failure on their part, but a minor one in the grand scheme of things. Without a queen those rachni won't be breeding.

"had all their operatves turn into husks on the direlect Reaper"

In the process they obtained the IFF, without which Shepard could not have completed his mission. A worthy sacrifice.

"and almost had Anderson killed."

They never once tried to kill Anderson. Frankly, I'd be happy to kill him myself. He's a fool and a traitor to the species. He should be hung for what he did.

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My shepard wants nothing but peace in the galaxy, so without a doubt I'm loyal to alliance, but I wouldn't do something to further humanity's needs before the needs of the galaxy so I guess I'm loyal to what the council stands for, galactic peace.

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C9316 wrote...

 I guess I'm loyal to what the council stands for, galactic peace.


Awww... that's cute. No really, it's very sweet. Tragic though...

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Cerberus. They are the only ones doing anything about the threat of the Reapers and the problem throughout ME and ME2 has always been that I, as Shepard, can never find anyone who will listen. The Council and the Alliance had their chance and failed. As for what will happen in ME3, I imagine my Shepard will trust only himself.

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Major Antella:

Request denied.

Hackett.

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Well cerberus are a bunch of douchebags and I'd rather see humanity wiped out than having The "90% of my projects go to hell" illusive man" in charge,

The alliance I like better but only if they play nice with others. If they don't it going to be us against the others and THAT is a fight we will loose. Badly at that. And if we're going to play nice with others we're going to have to listen to the council.

So I'm in the chair that says council majority with a side of aliance if you don't mind.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

George-Kinsill wrote...

In overlord they almost caused a techological apocolypse...


*Cerberus butthurt snip*

We get it Saphra Cerberus can and will never do ANYTHING wrong in your eyes.

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I do the right thing. If someone wants to help cool. If they're in my way, I'll run them over. Of course, depending on my Shepard, that right thing may vary...

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Alliance and Council are pretty talkers, but Cerberus gets stuff done. They brought Shepard back to life. In this war, you either nut up or shut up, and Cerberus already is there.