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[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Sammyjb wrote...

Alliance and Council are pretty talkers, but Cerberus gets stuff done. They brought Shepard back to life. In this war, you either nut up or shut up, and Cerberus already is there.

Yep right there with the Reapers.

[Seboist]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

George-Kinsill wrote...

In overlord they almost caused a techological apocolypse...

*Cerberus butthurt snip*

We get it Saphra Cerberus can and will never do ANYTHING wrong in your eyes.

Cerberus has done wrong things no question about it, like not hiring my Shepard to take out that son of a **** Kahoku.

[Palidane]

I'm a Spectre, and I defend the Citadel, which includes humanity. I will always be loyal to the Systems Alliance, and Hackett can ask me for help whenever he wants to. He cannot order me to do anything though. I defend all species of the Citadel, and the needs of humanity must get in line with the needs of Turians, Asari, and Salariens.

I hate Cerberus. I remember the evil they did in ME1, and nothing in ME2 has atoned for that. Cerberus is a loose cannon, comprised of xenophobes, terrorists, criminals, and other unsavory characters. And judging from the ME3 trailers, I was right.

[Skirata129]

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.

Elaborate

TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.

AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.

So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?

Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.

Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 

It's in humanity's interests to reach it's fullest potential with biotics and in regards to Project Overlord I quote Dr.Gavin Archer "If my work spares a million mothers mourning the deaths of a million sons my conscious will rest easy".

I know an angry bald chick who was tortured by cerberus that would like to have a word with you.  Sorry but the ends do not justify the means.  Never been a fan of the "getting the job done no matter what" mantra that cerberus drones are always running.

The Subject Zero project was proven a success by Jack being able to hold the biotic barrier in the SM. Cerberus wins again baby.

and it was pretty quickly established that the team went WAY over the boundaries set by T.I.M. this is both Cerberus's best attribute and their worst- limited oversight.

Like Miranda said, they give you a task and say "do it". they don't have people backchecking and questioning every decision made by their agents and as a result of this have a greater chance of monumental success as well as catastrophic failure. this isn't even entirely their fault either as it's merely a position they've been forced into by the other factions actively hunting them. Because T.I.M oversee's everything personally they have greater operational security but also less safety checks. so the failures aren't entirely their fault.

even with all this, they get the job one and that's what matters.

[Kekkis]

Saphra Deden wrote...

C9316 wrote...

 I guess I'm loyal to what the council stands for, galactic peace.

Awww... that's cute. No really, it's very sweet. Tragic though...

It´s so much better if you build your army to the point that you can ruin your economy, or go to war. So cute. Or WW2. But there is always civil war if you can´t find someone else to fight with.

[General User]

Of the three, and as things stand now: Alliance.  They're my country, my people. 

Though, I will say, that if Cerberus ever really starts walking their talk and really starts sticking up for humanity in a non-Bond villain way, they could win my loyalty easy.

The Council is just about as vile and despicable a body as can be imagined.  And yet, as a SpecTRe, Shepard owes them loyalty, like it or not.  Working for them (as a paragon anyway) makes me feel like 'a man of honor in den of thieves.'

I don't think any of the three are mutually exclusive.  Perhaps someone more imaginative than I am could suggest a scenario wherein the player would have to make an A / B (or A / B / C, as the case may be) choice?

Modifié par General User, 24 juin 2011 - 12:06 .

[xSTONEYx187x]

2 of my Sheps are Alliance/Council apologist, another one is Renegade but loyal to himself, doesn't care much for either Alliance, Council or Cerberus, then my other Shep is a total Cerberus fanboy and will make sure they have all the necessary equipment available for ME 3.

= )

[rt604]

I support both the Alliance and Council, especially in this situation where the goals are the same for both organizations, survival. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

[Skirata129]

Kekkis wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

C9316 wrote...

 I guess I'm loyal to what the council stands for, galactic peace.

Awww... that's cute. No really, it's very sweet. Tragic though...

It´s so much better if you build your army to the point that you can ruin your economy, or go to war. So cute. Or WW2. But there is always civil war if you can´t find someone else to fight with.

actually, peace through superior firepower is the only kind of peace that lasts. or peace though mutual profit.

[SandTrout]

I support humanity, regardless of what political organizations I have to ally with or destroy.

I'm a Paragon, typically, but if there is no other way to ensure human survival, I will side with Cerberus, leave the Alliance and Citadel fleets as cannon fodder for the Reapers, and allow the home-worlds of every other species to burn. Granted, I would rather have the Alliance, Citadel, and Migrant fleets with me when I face the Reapers, and I don't trust Cerberus as far as throw them, but survival of the species is first priority with me, always.

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus all the way.

Elaborate

TIM says jump , they say off what cliff.

AHAHAH! You're funny!

I support Cerberus because I like their ideology and methods. I have respect for the Alliance, it is a decent government. However I'd rather be a part of Cerberus myself. Leave the politicking and the public face to the politicians and simpletons.

So you have no problem with their xenophobic ideology where they would screw over every nonhuman species if given the chance?  And you have no problem with them kidnapping children from their families only to send them to biotic death camps just to see if they can come up with more powerful human biotics regardless of who's lives they ruin in the process or how about the torture of David?  You have no problem with that?

Cerberus defends human rights and interests. They have my support 100%.

Yeah like sending human children to biotic death camps or turning an autistic human into a lab rat so he can interface with the geth.  That really benefited those humans.  Or how about pissing off all the other races in the galaxy and making them distrust humanity that really benefits humanity doesn't it?  I love how during her dying moments Vasir pointed out the irony of how cerberus was "looking out for human interests".

Sorry but some of my Shepard's best friends are non humans.  The reapers are a threat to everybody not just humanity. 

It's in humanity's interests to reach it's fullest potential with biotics and in regards to Project Overlord I quote Dr.Gavin Archer "If my work spares a million mothers mourning the deaths of a million sons my conscious will rest easy".

I know an angry bald chick who was tortured by cerberus that would like to have a word with you.  Sorry but the ends do not justify the means.  Never been a fan of the "getting the job done no matter what" mantra that cerberus drones are always running.

The Subject Zero project was proven a success by Jack being able to hold the biotic barrier in the SM. Cerberus wins again baby.

 

Yeah too bad your precious Miranda can't hold the field.  Samara (that's right an asari)   can hold the field as well so you do not even need to use Jack to complete the SM successfully.  Not to mention Jack's willpower is fueled by her justifyable hatred of cerberus. Oh and while we are at it  look at how the non humans are important in pulling off the suicide mission with no casualties.  The Normandy's guns are upgraded into the Thanix Cannon by a turian, the Normandy's shields are improved by a Quarian, the armor is upgraded using asari technology and when infiltrating the base a quarian or a geth is best suited for sucessfuly getting through the vents to hack open the door for shepard and team to get in.  Not to mention combat with the collectors wouldn''t be possible or very short lived without the counter measure that was developed by a salarian.  Humanity would have been screwed if it wasn't for the help of some aliens.  I plan on pointing that out to TIM just before I kill him.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 24 juin 2011 - 12:33 .

[seirhart]

I support the alien council and he is a council spectre he wants nothing to do with alliance or cereberus.

[Kekkis]

Skirata129 wrote...

Kekkis wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

C9316 wrote...

 I guess I'm loyal to what the council stands for, galactic peace.

Awww... that's cute. No really, it's very sweet. Tragic though...

It´s so much better if you build your army to the point that you can ruin your economy, or go to war. So cute. Or WW2. But there is always civil war if you can´t find someone else to fight with.

actually, peace through superior firepower is the only kind of peace that lasts. or peace though mutual profit.

Actually fear of complete destruction of both sides is absolute peacemaker In every war starter had somekind of  realistic or unrealistic hope to win it.

[jbblue05]

I am pro-human

I am an N7 marine that swore an oath of service to the Alliance

I am a Cerberus Operative and believe they are promoting humanity and the Alliance's interests.

I am no longer a spectre but I will support humanity's interests however I can

[SandTrout]

Actually fear of complete destruction of both sides is absolute peacemaker smilie In every war starter had somekind of realistic or unrealistic hope to win it.

That would fall under "peace through superior firepower", I think. The firepower on each side is superior to the survival of either.

[Tilarta]

 Alliiance 1st, Council 2nd, Cerberus, never!

Basically, it's a trust issue.
As in, I don't trust them!

I did my best to work with them, but after continual failures, oversights, blunders, being sent uninformed into lifeordeath situations, I started to lose faith in Cerberus' ability to be an effective force fighting the Reapers.

The final straw was when the Illusive Man asked to keep the Collector Base.
There was no way I was letting anyone, least of all Cerberus keep it!
It's too much temptation, we're better off not having that particular one in our grasp.

And considering what TIM did to Grayson with salvaged Reaper technology only cements my decision.
He created a Reaper Avatar which could have caused untold problems if it was allowed to keep running loose around the galaxy.
Not to mention the subject wasn't a voluntary one and it involved a fair amount of physical and psychological torture.

Yeah, that's the kind of guy you want to help you defend the galaxy.

Modifié par Tilarta, 24 juin 2011 - 12:34 .

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda does a fine job holding up the biotic field. The reason the squadmate dies at the end is because they charge forward instead of retreating with Shepard and the rest of the squad.

Can't admit your precious Miranda screws up?

[Reever]

Saphra Deden wrote...
"preformed brutal experiements o Asari children"

Very much worth it. We need every advantage over the asari we can get.

I know you like playing your role around here (really hope you don´t think like this in RL, but ah well...), but do you want me to say go **** yourself?! It´s torture, it´s avoidable, it´s not a war that´s threatening us whatsoever! Don´t just brush it aside like that.

And that applies to all the other atrocities! I´m all for progress, because stagnation is death, but there´s always a better way.


On topic:
My default Shepard which would mirror me the best would be support the Alliance ( although after ME2 he´s not that content with them, and then he knows about the Cerberus agents - we do get know that ingame, don´t we?!) and the Intergalactical community - not really the Council, since they´re douchebags. Also thinks the Council isn´t quite the right way to rule the Galaxy, but ah well.

Cerberus he doesn´t like because what they did, and then because of TIM. Just too shady, too power hungry and devoid of emotions! They get a + point for going against the Reapers, but who wouldn´t with the proper data?! (if only the Alliance had the evidence ...and that greybox).

[Googlesaurus]

I support all the little people who get screwed over whenever Cerberus, the Alliance, or the Council make a foolish decision.

Modifié par Googlesaurus, 24 juin 2011 - 12:42 .

[Kekkis]

SandTrout wrote...

Actually fear of complete destruction of both sides is absolute peacemaker smilie In every war starter had somekind of realistic or unrealistic hope to win it.

That would fall under "peace through superior firepower", I think. The firepower on each side is superior to the survival of either.

In that case you are right .

I was thinking, that one side would think, that they have superior firepower. That can create some ugly results.

[KotorEffect3]

Googlesaurus wrote...

I support all the little people who get screwed over whenever Cerberus, the Alliance, or the Council make a foolish decision.

this

[Spartanburger]

If they can trust me, I'll trust them. If they'll fight for me, I'll fight for them. If they crossed my back, then may their deities have mercy on their souls. Cerberus crossed me once. I lost 50 good men. Friends. We were like family. I will not forget them. They will not have died in vain. They will be avenged.
My shepard supports SWEET RAVE PARTIES!



But that doesn't really matter. What does matter is that nobody here seems to know how NOT to pyramid quote. Seriously, stop it. My mousewheel won't last long like this.

Modifié par Spartanburger, 24 juin 2011 - 12:52 .

[dreamextractor]

My Shepard is a para-gade, doesn't really support anyone but good old team Normandy.