My crew (from both games). The Council and Alliance are needed to govern but they have not been much help in stopping the Reapers. I would rather they get out of my way and let my people and I get the job done. Then they can return to their political shenanigans.
Working with Cerberus was a necessary evil, I didn't mind the crew but do not trust TIM and have not forgotten Akuze. I look forward to battling with them in ME3.
Who do you support? Alliance, Council or Cerberus?
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#202
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 03:12
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Had cerberus been friendly in ME3, I'd support their cause not in a xenophobic way, but just to put humanity at it's well deserved rank amongst the council races just because of Shepard's achievements. That means, to the top of the food chain.
I'd also support the Alliance in other playthroughs because I kinda missed their role in ME2 and some characters, like Anderson and Hackett, I'd like to keep helping their cause to prove humanity is worth it.
The council can go to hell for all I care, still, I'll support them in some playthrough just to see what happens; personally I've disliked those 3 a-holes since the very moment I met them lol.
I'd also support the Alliance in other playthroughs because I kinda missed their role in ME2 and some characters, like Anderson and Hackett, I'd like to keep helping their cause to prove humanity is worth it.
The council can go to hell for all I care, still, I'll support them in some playthrough just to see what happens; personally I've disliked those 3 a-holes since the very moment I met them lol.
#203
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 03:33
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I believe in the ideals of the Council, and am for all races, not just humans. As paragon Shep once said, "humans are just one race among many." That said, I'll work with whoever allows me to save all races. Loyalty is to ideals, not organizations.
#204
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 04:49
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The Council have most power and thus they are the most usefull ally.
The Alliance is way weaker but still better than nothing.
Failberus is a small and isolated self defeat that only gets Shepard more enemies instead of allies. They have outlived their usefullness.
The Alliance is way weaker but still better than nothing.
Failberus is a small and isolated self defeat that only gets Shepard more enemies instead of allies. They have outlived their usefullness.
#205
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 04:57
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My loyalty is firstly to the Alliance and secondarily to the Council.
I don't want humanity to be a puppet of the council; but at the same time I don't want humanity to be a domineering force since history has shown that mankind is quite capable of imposing tyranny if too much power is concentrated into the hands of a select elite.
As for Cerberus, I won't be happy until I've exterminated every last one of them and I have the Illusive Man's pretty blue eyes sitting in a jar on my desk.
I don't want humanity to be a puppet of the council; but at the same time I don't want humanity to be a domineering force since history has shown that mankind is quite capable of imposing tyranny if too much power is concentrated into the hands of a select elite.
As for Cerberus, I won't be happy until I've exterminated every last one of them and I have the Illusive Man's pretty blue eyes sitting in a jar on my desk.
#206
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Posté 29 juin 2011 - 07:22
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I am loyal to the Council, and humanity for as long as they are part of said council.
Also, Cerberus are a bunch of suckers who should go die in a fire. True story.
Also, Cerberus are a bunch of suckers who should go die in a fire. True story.
#207
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 07:36
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Arcian wrote...
I am loyal to the Council, and humanity for as long as they are part of said council.
Also, Cerberus are a bunch of suckers who should go die in a fire. True story.
I say the same thing for all 3 factions.
I hate Alliance, Council and Cerberus.
#208
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 08:00
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I support the Alliance and the Council, but if the Alliance were to ask me to put humanity's interests ahead of aliens' well being, I would draw the line there and only support the Council.
#209
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 08:02
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Alliance and Council, don't see them as mutual exclusive.
#211
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 08:34
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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...
I support the Alliance and the Council, but if the Alliance were to ask me to put humanity's interests ahead of aliens' well being, I would draw the line there and only support the Council.
This
#212
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:01
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I always find it ridiculously funny why most people here are so unflinchingly opposed to human interests. Are you not a human?
I wonder how many of you actually pursue the same line of thought in real life when it comes to your countries. And how many of you will side for another country instead of yours.
Maybe it's just me and I take decisions in games as I would in real life but seriously what's the logic behind crippling our own kind for the sake of aliens.
Hating Cerberus on moral terms is all fine and dandy and I can understand that but not promoting our own kind sounds illogical to me.
I wonder how many of you actually pursue the same line of thought in real life when it comes to your countries. And how many of you will side for another country instead of yours.
Maybe it's just me and I take decisions in games as I would in real life but seriously what's the logic behind crippling our own kind for the sake of aliens.
Hating Cerberus on moral terms is all fine and dandy and I can understand that but not promoting our own kind sounds illogical to me.
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#213
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:10
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I didn't realise that it was an 'or' question really, so with that in mind I'm going to cheat and answer all.
I accept the need for some sort of 'meeting ground' with leaders for interspecies co-operation, because we know that other species exist and thus we understand the necessity. I believe in the necessity to cultivate and find new friends, and working together to help achieve mutual goals by forming agreements etc. Having said that; I don't support the concept of 3 people essentially making laws for untold billions of inhabitants.
I support the need for humanity to have a unified galactic face for the benefit for the meeting ground. I also agree with the necessity of that galactic face being capable of not just diplomacy, but military action in such situations where such a reaction is needed.
But, I also believe that while laws are good, I believe it's naive to assume that everyone shares those principles. I believe that sometimes bad things must be done for the greater good. I believe in the necessity of 'black ops' organisations to 'keep my friends honest' and my enemies in a position where they can't be my enemies. I believe that while having friends is good, there's no guarantee that they will always be my friends. War's are costly to prosecute and have an uncertain result, ergo, it makes much more sense to me at least to trust some matters to a key snipers bullet than sending in the Alliance Marines, especially since the Alliance Marine's would be easily identified as being Alliance marines.
For example; the Skyllian Blitz was orchestrated by oneman Turian named Elanos Haliat. Elanos' pirate fleet could possibly have won if they had a bit more luck on their side (and if my Shep wasn't there 
) but that doesn't mean human casualties didn't occur. If the Skyllian Blitz was basically the work of Elanos, then I think it's safe to say that the Skyllian Blitz wouldn't have occured if Elanos was pre-emptively assassinated, even though assassination is illegal in our society.
I accept the need for some sort of 'meeting ground' with leaders for interspecies co-operation, because we know that other species exist and thus we understand the necessity. I believe in the necessity to cultivate and find new friends, and working together to help achieve mutual goals by forming agreements etc. Having said that; I don't support the concept of 3 people essentially making laws for untold billions of inhabitants.
I support the need for humanity to have a unified galactic face for the benefit for the meeting ground. I also agree with the necessity of that galactic face being capable of not just diplomacy, but military action in such situations where such a reaction is needed.
But, I also believe that while laws are good, I believe it's naive to assume that everyone shares those principles. I believe that sometimes bad things must be done for the greater good. I believe in the necessity of 'black ops' organisations to 'keep my friends honest' and my enemies in a position where they can't be my enemies. I believe that while having friends is good, there's no guarantee that they will always be my friends. War's are costly to prosecute and have an uncertain result, ergo, it makes much more sense to me at least to trust some matters to a key snipers bullet than sending in the Alliance Marines, especially since the Alliance Marine's would be easily identified as being Alliance marines.
For example; the Skyllian Blitz was orchestrated by one
) but that doesn't mean human casualties didn't occur. If the Skyllian Blitz was basically the work of Elanos, then I think it's safe to say that the Skyllian Blitz wouldn't have occured if Elanos was pre-emptively assassinated, even though assassination is illegal in our society.
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Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:12
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None. I support my team in my infiltrator play through, my crew in my vanguard play through and myself in my soldier play through. I gave Cerberus the data they asked for in the assignment you get in act one, as thanks for the new Normandy. I probably support cerberus the most, but I do not condone some of their methods.
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#215
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:17
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Undertone wrote...
I always find it ridiculously funny why most people here are so unflinchingly opposed to human interests. Are you not a human?
I wonder how many of you actually pursue the same line of thought in real life when it comes to your countries. And how many of you will side for another country instead of yours.
Maybe it's just me and I take decisions in games as I would in real life but seriously what's the logic behind crippling our own kind for the sake of aliens.
Hating Cerberus on moral terms is all fine and dandy and I can understand that but not promoting our own kind sounds illogical to me.
I do my best to play as a Shepard who would take the same choices as I would in real life; I don't think people are opposed to human interests per se, I just (like many others) don''t support human dominance over all other races or securing human interests at the expense of the rest of the galaxy
And personally I would take it further and say that the Alliance should've been more patient with the Council in ME1 over power sharing.. but thats more me
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Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:48
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TobyHasEyes wrote...
I do my best to play as a Shepard who would take the same choices as I would in real life; I don't think people are opposed to human interests per se, I just (like many others) don''t support human dominance over all other races or securing human interests at the expense of the rest of the galaxy
And personally I would take it further and say that the Alliance should've been more patient with the Council in ME1 over power sharing.. but thats more me
True, yet these people would also support alien interests at the expense of humanity.
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Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:50
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easygame88 wrote...
TobyHasEyes wrote...
I do my best to play as a Shepard who would take the same choices as I would in real life; I don't think people are opposed to human interests per se, I just (like many others) don''t support human dominance over all other races or securing human interests at the expense of the rest of the galaxy
And personally I would take it further and say that the Alliance should've been more patient with the Council in ME1 over power sharing.. but thats more me
True, yet these people would also support alien interests at the expense of humanity.
Any examples?
#218
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:50
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Undertone wrote...
I always find it ridiculously funny why most people here are so unflinchingly opposed to human interests. Are you not a human?
I wonder how many of you actually pursue the same line of thought in real life when it comes to your countries. And how many of you will side for another country instead of yours.
Maybe it's just me and I take decisions in games as I would in real life but seriously what's the logic behind crippling our own kind for the sake of aliens.
Hating Cerberus on moral terms is all fine and dandy and I can understand that but not promoting our own kind sounds illogical to me.
I've always wondered this as well.
There just seems to be a lot of love for aliens when it comes to this game. Nobody likes the humans or something.
#219
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:52
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Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:53
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TobyHasEyes wrote...
Any examples?
Look around the forum. Even one guy going as far as wanting to specifically destroy Earth
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Posté 29 juin 2011 - 09:56
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easygame88 wrote...
TobyHasEyes wrote...
Any examples?
Look around the forum. Even one guy going as far as wanting to specifically destroy Earth
People who say that tend to mean they would be willing to sacrifice Earth to stop the Reapers, which isn't even a pro-alien view
It's like saying whether I am a patriotic British citizen or not, sacrificing the UK to stop the entire planet from blowing up would make sense
#222
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 10:54
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Undertone wrote...
but not promoting our own kind sounds illogical to me.
We're not at the level of our own existinece where we can "promote our own kind". We still "promote", judge, and seperate our own kind based on gender, race, religion, etc.
People are just relating to aliens the same way.
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#223
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 11:02
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I certainly won't help the council position.
The only council race that is worth a damn is the Salarians, inteligent, logical and resorcefull.
Turians in general are totally stuck up in their ways.
The Asari are always trying to play diplomatic, and failing.
The Alliance is just as willing to use you (as Shepard) as Cerberus.
They also want to put humanity on top, and use every possible rsource for it.
They push you as the first human Spectre because it forwards their cause.
They ask you for several cover up throughout ME1.
Aaaand they shaft you when you become "more trouble than you're worth".
Not happy about it, they call you to help again in Arrival, and again they scapegoat you.
On the trial i'm telling everybody that what was happening on that asteroid was an Alliance operation. I'm done with them.
Cerberus has the right idea, and is straightforward (rather than political) about it, but the wrong leadership.
The only council race that is worth a damn is the Salarians, inteligent, logical and resorcefull.
Turians in general are totally stuck up in their ways.
The Asari are always trying to play diplomatic, and failing.
The Alliance is just as willing to use you (as Shepard) as Cerberus.
They also want to put humanity on top, and use every possible rsource for it.
They push you as the first human Spectre because it forwards their cause.
They ask you for several cover up throughout ME1.
Aaaand they shaft you when you become "more trouble than you're worth".
Not happy about it, they call you to help again in Arrival, and again they scapegoat you.
On the trial i'm telling everybody that what was happening on that asteroid was an Alliance operation. I'm done with them.
Cerberus has the right idea, and is straightforward (rather than political) about it, but the wrong leadership.
#225
Posté 29 juin 2011 - 01:14
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I happen to like TIM but a Cerberus without shepard is totally useless and weak their just fodder for my M8. The Alliance well ill only support them because i'm human and my moms an admiral and besides they havent done anything to ****** me off yet. I want to romance that asari councilor 
. Still I support the council although they are absolute tools I.e. the turian, they made me a spectre and put me defend the galaxy however I see fit, I choose the council.
. Still I support the council although they are absolute tools I.e. the turian, they made me a spectre and put me defend the galaxy however I see fit, I choose the council.
