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[keekee53]

I have been trying to keep up with most of the new information on ME3, but I seem to keep running into new gun toys for Shepard to play with.  While I am a fan of having lots of guns to blow the enemy up with, I want to be sure the characters new or old will be completely fleshed out throughout the story.  I do not want Garrus telling me he is calibrating the battery for seven missions.  This is the last game for Shepard, make it count.

I am slightly concerned a lot of effort has been put into Shepard's new toys and I do not want squad conversations\\stories to be thrown out due to time contraints.  I feel like marketing is trying to pull in the first person shooter crowd, which is fine, just do not forget about those who love the story too.  Anyone else a little concerned?

[Knight of Dane]

You are repeating words spoken before in many verious threads, you are not the only one with those thoughts, there are plenty of places to air them without it making a personal thread.

[Praetor Knight]

They're saving the good stuff for later, and there's plenty of time to reveal them.

[Someone With Mass]

http://t1.gstatic.co...3Lkp75BSi_sYVOA

[lazuli]

I don't mind the shooting elements being spoiled for me.  I'd rather not know too many character or plot details.  Perhaps Bioware is taking the "OMG NO MOAR SPOILERS" crowd seriously this time.  And then again, perhaps not.

[nitrog100]

From what I can tell, guns are the only things that they can really show without revealing too much. Believe it or not, that's actually a really good sign for all of the other elements in the game. If they can't show it yet, it's probably something that will cause nerdgasms.

[keekee53]

Sorry if this has been discussed. I certainly try to keep up with the forums, but realistically I am not going to read every thread here.

Geez people

[keekee53]

nitrog100 wrote...

From what I can tell, guns are the only things that they can really show without revealing too much. Believe it or not, that's actually a really good sign for all of the other elements in the game. If they can't show it yet, it's probably something that will cause nerdgasms.

I can understand that and I hope that is the case.

[Knight of Dane]

keekee53 wrote...

Sorry if this has been discussed. I certainly try to keep up with the forums, but realistically I am not going to read every thread here.

Geez people

You don't need to, google your main points seperate with the ending "social.bioware" and it will display threads with the same words.

[Kekkis]

I am. If I can´t do anything without being forced to kill 150 useless bots, like in DA2 I am concerned. I need those stupid mining, flying, running around to talk to people etc. minigames in ME2, becouse killing brainless bots becomes boring too fast. Good balance between action and other stuff to do keeps my interest to the game better, than pure shoot, shoot, kill, kill, awesome, awesome, games.

I am a person, who likes to do completely useless and weird stuff in games. For example in Oblivion I took whole game day to take and sell everything from Blackwood Company HQ after I killed them all. I didn´t need the few coins I made and it was completely waste of time, but I like when I can do stuff like that in games.

[Davie McG]

keekee53 wrote...

I have been trying to keep up with most of the new information on ME3, but I seem to keep running into new gun toys for Shepard to play with.  While I am a fan of having lots of guns to blow the enemy up with, I want to be sure the characters new or old will be completely fleshed out throughout the story.  I do not want Garrus telling me he is calibrating the battery for seven missions.  This is the last game for Shepard, make it count.

I am slightly concerned a lot of effort has been put into Shepard's new toys and I do not want squad conversationsstories to be thrown out due to time contraints.  I feel like marketing is trying to pull in the first person shooter crowd, which is fine, just do not forget about those who love the story too.  Anyone else a little concerned?

I fail to see how they can show this without spoiling anything, I mean you already know what the conversation wheel will be like if you played any of the previous two games. Beond that anything story or mission based is a pretty heavy spoiler.

There are plenty people who thought the kid in the vent thing was somewhat spoilery and that happens in the first few minuets of the game.

Its a bit like expecting a sample of the story quality from a film before it comes out *, not going to happen, they only show you small (usualy action packed) sequences in the trailer, and for games where the story matters the only real thing they can demo without wasting it is the action gameplay aspects.

In having said all that I would like to see a short video that shows how they are making the game environment more "alive", would very much like to see more hustle and bustle on hub worlds.

Edit : * The only way to be sure of the script quality in a film would either be to watch the film or read the script.

Modifié par Davie McG, 23 juin 2011 - 11:32 .

[C9316]

And here I thought people didn't want more spoilers in advertising, make up your minds.

[Cainne Chapel]

Yeah I can honestly say I am not worried about the story or character development aspects of the game. ME1 and ME2 have proved that bioware can tell a compelling story AND develop characters very well.

So not much worry there. and as the game is still 9 months away... cant really show us EVERYTHING now can they?

I mean what did you expect them to show near a year from launch? THey're gonna show what everyone else shows, action scenes and CGI trailers. They're not going to release the meat and potatoes outside of afew tidbits this early.

[Paul Sedgmore]

C9316 wrote...

And here I thought people didn't want more spoilers in advertising, make up your minds.

This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing, If you show stuff like character interactions and story development you will get people complaining about spoilers, but on the flip side if you don't show anything of that stuff you get people complaining that its not being shown.

[archurban]

it is obvious. what do you surprise so much? if they don't make that way, nobody wants to buy the game at all. that's not how they want. 99% of all sic-fi related games are involved in shooting pretty much. did you find any game which is not related with any shooting? I don't think so.

[Mann42]

keekee53 wrote...
I am slightly concerned a lot of effort has been put into Shepard's new toys and I do not want squad conversations/stories to be thrown out due to time contraints.

Writers are not designing the combat mechanics. Writers and Systems Designers are not interchangable. Time constraints causing problems with story will only cause problems if they haven't hired enough writers and scripters, which is doubtful. 

Disc space for all that audio and the cost of the voice acting talent is probably a bigger constraint than time.

keekee53 wrote...
I feel like marketing is trying to pull in the first person shooter crowd, which is fine, just do not forget about those who love the story too. 

They haven't forgotten about the story. They're trying to avoid spoilers. They're saving the best announcements for close to launch. They're not done with the UI yet so they can't show it to you. They're still iterating on it. The voice acting isn't done.

Bioware already has a reputation for role-playing games and story. They have more professional writers on staff that any other game company. People that like story already know this. I know that they will put tremendous effort into making Mass Effect 3 an amazing experience, because that is what they have consistently done since their inception.

However, most people don't know that Bioware can make a quality shooter. Mass Effect 1 was an RPG with shooter-like target selection, and Mass Effect 2 was an extremely unpolished shooter but the powers and squad commands helped. 

Mass Effect 3 looks like a good shooter. It looks like they're actually trying to make it smoother, faster, and more tactical. The RPG mechanics, like weapon customization and powers will further innovate on the shooter in ways that few other shooters do. 

And they want everyone to know it. They want all those shooter fans, the ones that buy 20 million copies of Call of Duty, to know that Bioware has made an awesome shooter.

And if a bunch of those converted shooter fans find out that they really enjoy a good story, and they really enjoy being able to customize their weapons, and powers, and their squad, then guess what that means for the future of gaming? More games with great story, high levels of player customization, and high quality shooter mechanics blended into perfection. Maybe those new fans will even broaden their horizons further by exloring other RPGs, thus growing those markets too? 

keekee53 wrote...
Anyone else a little concerned?

Nope, not one bit. I'm hoping it sells millions more copies and it inspires more games like the Mass Effect series. 

Modifié par nexworks, 24 juin 2011 - 12:46 .

[AdmiralCheez]

C9316 wrote...

And here I thought people didn't want more spoilers in advertising, make up your minds.

This made me giggle.

[vader da slayer]

Knight of Dane wrote...

keekee53 wrote...

Sorry if this has been discussed. I certainly try to keep up with the forums, but realistically I am not going to read every thread here.

Geez people

You don't need to, google your main points seperate with the ending "social.bioware" and it will display threads with the same words.

or instead of using an entirely seperate website to find stuff on this website he could just use the search bar at the top....

but to the op. I believe the reason for them not saying much on the characters (or showing much) is because not all the characters have been finished from a voice over perspective. it would be kinda dumb to try and show off the characters in say a character profile (like they did with ME2 and those CGI shorts) when they haven't finished the VO for the main game.

like some others have said the game isn't due for some time so Im sure closer to release (probably around jan if I took a wild guess) is when we would start seeing more character info (and hopefully without spoilers).

[Praetor Knight]

vader da slayer wrote...

or instead of using an entirely seperate website to find stuff on this website he could just use the search bar at the top....

It works properly now? I haven't used it in months so I'm not sure.

[Gatt9]

nitrog100 wrote...

From what I can tell, guns are the only things that they can really show without revealing too much. Believe it or not, that's actually a really good sign for all of the other elements in the game. If they can't show it yet, it's probably something that will cause nerdgasms.

Not really.

They could've shown off the Skills,  or the weapon mods,  they simply chose not to.  Not because they "couldn't" or because "It's not flashy enough",  but because it's not Shooter enough.

Because seriously,  Not only did Diablo 3 show that stuff off years before release,  they also got a ton of attention for it.

It isn't shown because it's likely not really there,  it's likely more ME2 than anything else.  Their focus in E3 tells alot about what they're concerned with,  which really shouldn't be any surprise,  because every interview with Norman is "Shooter shooter shooter!".

[Praetor Knight]

Gatt9 wrote...

It isn't shown because it's likely not really there,  it's likely more ME2 than anything else.  Their focus in E3 tells alot about what they're concerned with,  which really shouldn't be any surprise,  because every interview with Norman is "Shooter shooter shooter!".

Then this must make you happy: http://social.biowar...49262/8#7697735




At least congrats to Christina!

[gunswordfist]

Nope, not concerned. I'll be concerned when they throw tons of junk weapons at you like in ME1

[Kasai666]

This game could be 15 seconds long, and I would still feel like the 80$ I dropped was worth it.

[Bogsnot1]

keekee53 wrote...
Sorry if this has been discussed. I certainly try to keep up with the forums, but realistically I am not going to read every thread here.

Geez people

Its basically you are making the same assumptions as everyone else has made. You see footage of a gameplay demo at a single gaming convention, and immediately assume that although there is still 9 months left in the develepment cycle of the game, that what you see in the demo, is everything that the game has to offer.

There are only so many times you can say the same thing before you start posting pics like Someone with Mass did, or making a snarky comment (and getting spanked for it ).