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[McAwesum]

...Only have two eye holes? Why don't they have four? What's up with that?

[Dave666]

Its been commented on before. It's just a matter of laziness and saving resources. It was easier to re-use a two eyed helmet than have to create a four eyed one. It'll probably change for ME:3.

Modifié par Dave666, 24 juin 2011 - 12:15 .

[onelifecrisis]

Designing helmets for DLC is prohibitively expensive, apparently.
So is making new animations, making new face models, making new hair styles, paying voice actors...

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 24 juin 2011 - 12:15 .

[Praetor Knight]

Kestrel Helmet, FTW.

[onelifecrisis]

mrsph wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Designing helmets for DLC is prohibitively expensive, apparently.
So is making new animations, making new face models, making new hair styles, paying voice actors...

I can't really tell if this is supposed to be sarcasm or not

More like sardonicism. At any rate it was definitely not meant to be taken too seriously.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 24 juin 2011 - 12:17 .

[Sebby]

The lack of four eyed helmets in Arrival really killed the immersion for me and was my biggest gripe with that whole DLC.

[McAwesum]

I don't think it would've been that hard to have one modeler take the helmets and just make two extra holes for the Batarians.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Just Bioware cutting corners.

Actually, "cutting corners" was the idea behind giving them human-like bodies. They were originally supposed to look more alien with bigger, wider heads.

Edit: awww, what the hell. I'll post a pic:

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 24 juin 2011 - 12:23 .

[Aedan_Cousland]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Perhaps they use two eyes to look out and the other two to read a detailed HUD?

While the real reason is just that Bioware didn't have the time/resources ect, to design new helmets for the Batarians, this explanation works for me. It is a good enough 'in universe' explanation as any.



If Bioware had used the original concept, I wonder how their bodies would have looked? Would they have had remained similar in build to humans? Taller? Shorter?

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 24 juin 2011 - 12:29 .

[Dave666]

McAwesum wrote...

I don't think it would've been that hard to have one modeler take the helmets and just make two extra holes for the Batarians.

Hence why I said laziness.  I've done some amateur modding before for games and even I could alter the mesh and texture file of a helmet to add in two more sets of eye holes.  It would probably take me about ten minutes, with the texture file taking up the majority of the time.

[Skirata129]

what if the batarians simply use helmets scavenged from other species?

[SandTrout]

Its been commented on before. It's just a matter of laziness and saving resources. It was easier to re-use a two eyed helmet than have to create a four eyed one. It'll probably change for ME:3.

^This is probably the real reason it was done this way.

Perhaps they use two eyes to look out and the other two to read a detailed HUD?

^This is how you can explain it away to fit in-universe, if you care that much.

[Sebby]

Dave666 wrote...

McAwesum wrote...

I don't think it would've been that hard to have one modeler take the helmets and just make two extra holes for the Batarians.

Hence why I said laziness.  I've done some amateur modding before for games and even I could alter the mesh and texture file of a helmet to add in two more sets of eye holes.  It would probably take me about ten minutes, with the texture file taking up the majority of the time.

The lack of a proper prison outfit for Kenson and a unique Batarian shuttle were more examples of laziness and rushing.

[marshalleck]

Dave666 wrote...

Its been commented on before. It's just a matter of laziness and saving resources. It was easier to re-use a two eyed helmet than have to create a four eyed one. It'll probably change for ME:3.

The helmets in ME2 are re-used ME1 assets. Why would you expect them to change?

[McAwesum]

Dave666 wrote...

McAwesum wrote...

I don't think it would've been that hard to have one modeler take the helmets and just make two extra holes for the Batarians.

Hence why I said laziness.  I've done some amateur modding before for games and even I could alter the mesh and texture file of a helmet to add in two more sets of eye holes.  It would probably take me about ten minutes, with the texture file taking up the majority of the time.

Exactly. It should take them about the same time. I don't understand why they couldn't have simply don that. I mean they spent time creating completely new species and new armors. Why couldn't they have put aside a few minutes to add extra eye holes for the Batarians. Poor them. Imagine how annoying it would be for them. It would be like us having a helmet with one eye hole or only half the visor or wearing an eyepatch. Lol.

[Shotokanguy]

Now, I haven't played Arrival yet, but this doesn't look so bad:



And I can't be the only one who thinks "two more eye holes" sounds idiotic. Why would they put eye holes? They just need slightly less helmet and more visor.

[HBC Dresden]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Designing helmets for DLC is prohibitively expensive, apparently.
So is making new animations, making new face models, making new hair styles, paying voice actors...

Yeah, what was with Kenson's ugly, horrendous, and slapped together face? (half serious)

[Dave666]

Shotokanguy wrote...

And I can't be the only one who thinks "two more eye holes" sounds idiotic. Why would they put eye holes? They just need slightly less helmet and more visor.

Which would be even easier.  Its much easier to create a single larger hole in the mesh and join the edges than it is to create two small round ish holes, and the Texture file is even easier.  Just select the area for the visor. Coulour it a grey ish colour, set that colour to alpha (making it transparent).  Then with a program like Nifscope you apply an alpha channel and...done.

Modifié par Dave666, 24 juin 2011 - 01:00 .

[onelifecrisis]

HBC Dresden wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Designing helmets for DLC is prohibitively expensive, apparently.
So is making new animations, making new face models, making new hair styles, paying voice actors...

Yeah, what was with Kenson's ugly, horrendous, and slapped together face? (half serious)

Well, that face did look like they pulled some kid off the street and gave him 5 bucks to make it. Then slap Kelly's hair on it.

But I was referring to Hackett a.k.a. Zaeed Mk II.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 24 juin 2011 - 01:39 .

[CajNatalie]

What has been seen cannot be unseen...
I'll never see Hackett the same again... damn it. ;_;

[Katamariguy]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Perhaps they use two eyes to look out and the other two to read a detailed HUD?

That... makes sense!