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[Mr. MannlyMan]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Sovereign: "Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom."

Shepard in ME3: "Pshaw!"

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 24 juin 2011 - 03:53 .

[jamesp81]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Sovereign: "Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom."

And why is that everyone assumes he's telling the truth?

We've got no reason to take him at his word.

I still expect them to number in the thousands, but well under 10,000.

[Brand New]

George-Kinsill wrote...

Well, I think once I heard some crack pot scientist say that there could be other civs in the galaxy when the Earth was just starting to form, which was 4.5 billion years ago. So having that be our starting date for the first civ, let's assume that 1 in 10 50,000 year extinction cycles (every 500,000 years) result in a species being able to be Reaperfied, and that only 1 Reaper is created from said species. So, 4.5 billion/500,000=...
9000 Reapers. Matches description set by Sovereign, who said there are thousands. And this should also be enough to darken the sky of every world... that is inhabited by the soon to be extinct species.

That sounds far to little to me.  There are probably a couple million or around a million.

The Asari embbasy receptionist  and council claim to be in control of trillions of citizens. The Reapers generally choose a race, but sometime it just dosen't happen because of Implications, but i doubt this is ture. I want to say many many times there is a single species. Lets say about 5/10 civilizations become used for Reapers, but I want to make the number higher due to the fact the collector base was created. I have a throery that the Protheans might have been the first errect species or humanoid type species which became a problem for creating ships becuase of the shape and design.

Lets say I am right and since all reapers don't have an humanoid shape or atleast we are lead to believe that I am right.

Lets say 37 million years ago that was the first set of Reapers, the one orbiting the brown dwarf. Perhaps that was a species or group from a species who rejected the Reaper idea and killed it. This is why it is not noticed or removed. It most likley isn't tracked like other reapers becuase it is a prototype. The original race had a civil war and the indotornation wa originally created to changed and persue the other half of the race or species.

Lets say also that around 500k to 1 million of a species are required to create a reaper depending on its size which range from .5 km to 2.0km. With most species probably reaching billions there a few thousand reapers able to be created each time.

37 million / 50,000 is 740  We will say 740 cycles (although not "more times that we can fathom") times  5000 reapers or 5 billion of a species each assuming many die in the inital attack etc.

This is 3.7 million reapers. We will say for other reason like incapatability instances and being destroyed etc there are 3.1 million reapers. Sound good. At 2km  it would take more then a few thousand to cover and habitable planet. They are also probably galaxy faring creatures or previously were.

[George-Kinsill]

Brand New wrote...

George-Kinsill wrote...

Well, I think once I heard some crack pot scientist say that there could be other civs in the galaxy when the Earth was just starting to form, which was 4.5 billion years ago. So having that be our starting date for the first civ, let's assume that 1 in 10 50,000 year extinction cycles (every 500,000 years) result in a species being able to be Reaperfied, and that only 1 Reaper is created from said species. So, 4.5 billion/500,000=...
9000 Reapers. Matches description set by Sovereign, who said there are thousands. And this should also be enough to darken the sky of every world... that is inhabited by the soon to be extinct species.

That sounds far to little to me.  There are probably a couple million or around a million.

The Asari embbasy receptionist  and council claim to be in control of trillions of citizens. The Reapers generally choose a race, but sometime it just dosen't happen because of Implications, but i doubt this is ture. I want to say many many times there is a single species. Lets say about 5/10 civilizations become used for Reapers, but I want to make the number higher due to the fact the collector base was created. I have a throery that the Protheans might have been the first errect species or humanoid type species which became a problem for creating ships becuase of the shape and design.

Lets say I am right and since all reapers don't have an humanoid shape or atleast we are lead to believe that I am right.

Lets say 37 million years ago that was the first set of Reapers, the one orbiting the brown dwarf. Perhaps that was a species or group from a species who rejected the Reaper idea and killed it. This is why it is not noticed or removed. It most likley isn't tracked like other reapers becuase it is a prototype. The original race had a civil war and the indotornation wa originally created to changed and persue the other half of the race or species.

Lets say also that around 500k to 1 million of a species are required to create a reaper depending on its size which range from .5 km to 2.0km. With most species probably reaching billions there a few thousand reapers able to be created each time.

37 million / 50,000 is 740  We will say 740 cycles (although not "more times that we can fathom") times  5000 reapers or 5 billion of a species each assuming many die in the inital attack etc.

This is 3.7 million reapers. We will say for other reason like incapatability instances and being destroyed etc there are 3.1 million reapers. Sound good. At 2km  it would take more then a few thousand to cover and habitable planet. They are also probably galaxy faring creatures or previously were.

If there were 3.7 million, there wuld be no way to defeat them, and 37 million years ago is a bad date to start with as there is on Reaper called Leviathan (who was found dead in a crater by batarians) was a billion years old. Ad as for only a million of a species needed to build a reaper is also far too few. If that was the case, Horizo, your average small colony, had 300,000 people on it. So then the collectors would oly have needed to abduct 10 or so colonies (and they abducted far more) to omplete the reaper, but it wasn't even 10% of the way completed. To put into perspective how many people you would need, Loch Ness (a body of water, not the monster) is approximitely 11.28 km^3, and could fit 18 billion eople in it head to toe. I know a reaper may be a bit smaller, but since the press compresses peope dow to smoothie form, ad possibly even further (in a diamond like compression process) it would easily be in th billions the # of people required to build a reaper.

[Brand New]

George-Kinsill wrote...

Brand New wrote...

George-Kinsill wrote...

Well, I think once I heard some crack pot scientist say that there could be other civs in the galaxy when the Earth was just starting to form, which was 4.5 billion years ago. So having that be our starting date for the first civ, let's assume that 1 in 10 50,000 year extinction cycles (every 500,000 years) result in a species being able to be Reaperfied, and that only 1 Reaper is created from said species. So, 4.5 billion/500,000=...
9000 Reapers. Matches description set by Sovereign, who said there are thousands. And this should also be enough to darken the sky of every world... that is inhabited by the soon to be extinct species.

That sounds far to little to me.  There are probably a couple million or around a million.

The Asari embbasy receptionist  and council claim to be in control of trillions of citizens. The Reapers generally choose a race, but sometime it just dosen't happen because of Implications, but i doubt this is ture. I want to say many many times there is a single species. Lets say about 5/10 civilizations become used for Reapers, but I want to make the number higher due to the fact the collector base was created. I have a throery that the Protheans might have been the first errect species or humanoid type species which became a problem for creating ships becuase of the shape and design.

Lets say I am right and since all reapers don't have an humanoid shape or atleast we are lead to believe that I am right.

Lets say 37 million years ago that was the first set of Reapers, the one orbiting the brown dwarf. Perhaps that was a species or group from a species who rejected the Reaper idea and killed it. This is why it is not noticed or removed. It most likley isn't tracked like other reapers becuase it is a prototype. The original race had a civil war and the indotornation wa originally created to changed and persue the other half of the race or species.

Lets say also that around 500k to 1 million of a species are required to create a reaper depending on its size which range from .5 km to 2.0km. With most species probably reaching billions there a few thousand reapers able to be created each time.

37 million / 50,000 is 740  We will say 740 cycles (although not "more times that we can fathom") times  5000 reapers or 5 billion of a species each assuming many die in the inital attack etc.

This is 3.7 million reapers. We will say for other reason like incapatability instances and being destroyed etc there are 3.1 million reapers. Sound good. At 2km  it would take more then a few thousand to cover and habitable planet. They are also probably galaxy faring creatures or previously were.

If there were 3.7 million, there wuld be no way to defeat them, and 37 million years ago is a bad date to start with as there is on Reaper called Leviathan (who was found dead in a crater by batarians) was a billion years old. Ad as for only a million of a species needed to build a reaper is also far too few. If that was the case, Horizo, your average small colony, had 300,000 people on it. So then the collectors would oly have needed to abduct 10 or so colonies (and they abducted far more) to omplete the reaper, but it wasn't even 10% of the way completed. To put into perspective how many people you would need, Loch Ness (a body of water, not the monster) is approximitely 11.28 km^3, and could fit 18 billion eople in it head to toe. I know a reaper may be a bit smaller, but since the press compresses peope dow to smoothie form, ad possibly even further (in a diamond like compression process) it would easily be in th billions the # of people required to build a reaper.

It is rumored to have been there and disapeared. There is no real proof. I doubt a repaer would be filled entirely with a speices "goup" There is a ton of hardware needed. I believe the reaper was more then 10% complete. I don't remember, but I though it was more around hald way done. It would require a few million. Horizon was also not the only colony taken so you can't account for the other hundreds of thousands if not millions of people arleady taken. It would probably take no more then 10 million of a species. There woudl still be atleast a million reapers.

[KingNothing125]

given: (A) the reapers create a new reaper out of one organic race every time they appear (every 50,000 years) and ( the derelict reaper was 37 million years old, then there are at least 740... minus Sovereign (739), the derelict reaper (738), the failed prothean reaper (737), and the destroyed human reaper larva (736).

So at least 736, but probably more

[Brand New]

Also the Levithian looked nothing like a reaper in pictures I'd seen of it. It didn't look nearly like a reaper and it wasn't a tech-organic ship. It was claimed to be bio engineered.

[George-Kinsill]

Brand New wrote...

Also the Levithian looked nothing like a reaper in pictures I'd seen of it. It didn't look nearly like a reaper and it wasn't a tech-organic ship. It was claimed to be bio engineered.

Post a link to it, as as far as I know, ther is no actual picture, and it makes sese that it was a reaper considering that it was a billion years old and "a living starship." At the very least, its a prototype Reaper (or possibly even Soveriegn mistaken for dead).

[TexasNationalist]

I was reading that the number of Reapers showed at the end of ME2 was somewhere around the 180 range. It doesn't mean the actual numbers of Reapers, though.

[Brand New]

George-Kinsill wrote...

Brand New wrote...

Also the Levithian looked nothing like a reaper in pictures I'd seen of it. It didn't look nearly like a reaper and it wasn't a tech-organic ship. It was claimed to be bio engineered.

Post a link to it, as as far as I know, ther is no actual picture, and it makes sese that it was a reaper considering that it was a billion years old and "a living starship." At the very least, its a prototype Reaper (or possibly even Soveriegn mistaken for dead).

this is the picture I'd see used in quite a few threads.


http://brians-mnm-wi...e/view/Moya.jpg

I can and probably am wrong. I'ver never see that ship and it looks mass effectish. It has a husk looking design.

[George-Kinsill]

Brand New wrote...

George-Kinsill wrote...

Brand New wrote...

Also the Levithian looked nothing like a reaper in pictures I'd seen of it. It didn't look nearly like a reaper and it wasn't a tech-organic ship. It was claimed to be bio engineered.

Post a link to it, as as far as I know, ther is no actual picture, and it makes sese that it was a reaper considering that it was a billion years old and "a living starship." At the very least, its a prototype Reaper (or possibly even Soveriegn mistaken for dead).

this is the picture I'd see used in quite a few threads.


http://brians-mnm-wi...e/view/Moya.jpg

I can and probably am wrong. I'ver never see that ship and it looks mass effectish. It has a husk looking design.

I could actually easily see this as a prototype reaper, bt I lloked it up and I don't beleieve tis is official BW art design of it. Regardless, I still believe Leviathan is a Reaper considering its description, and the picture could easily be of something else entirely, or a fan desig of it, but thanks for the link!  

[GnusmasTHX]

500. And even that is overkill.

[Shotokanguy]

jamesp81 wrote...

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Sovereign: "Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom."

And why is that everyone assumes he's telling the truth?

We've got no reason to take him at his word.

I still expect them to number in the thousands, but well under 10,000.

Why do so many people think the Reapers lie, have a sense of pride, different levels of power and rank, etc.?

Because we don't know yet!

[Bluko]

OVER 9000!!!





(But seriously I suspect like 5000 or so, something that could comprise our understanding of a legion.)

[Gterror]

i suspect something like 1000-10000 reapers.

[DoNotIngest]

OVER 9000!!! Sounds about right, for standard, cuttlefish-looking Reapers. Add on the unique looking ones and Vaterral/Spider-Reapers and there you go.

[The Fan]

 Watches final cutscene of ME2

Hmmm, i think there is A LOT.

[nhsk]

[quote]AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Sovereign: "Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom."[/quote]

[/quote]

Well yes, but the logical assumption is that they sever the connections between each world reaping them one by one, so enough to darken the sky of Earth, then Palaven, then Tuchanka.. You get my point.

Well, the moment I on the battlemap see "A throng of Reapers" I'm officially going to crap my pants and just call it quits, perhaps even join them.

[RAF1940]

Bluko wrote...

OVER 9000!!!





(But seriously I suspect like 5000 or so, something that could comprise our understanding of a legion.)

LMFAO

[Alright-Television]

Many.

That matters? One.

[I am the Harbinger of your perfection]

there were 2 soverign and harbinger soverign died so there is just 1
the rest are just holograms

[Dannyboy9876]

Reapers target the Milky Way, as far as we know.
The oldest object in the Milky Way is 13.2 billion years old.

13,200,000,000/50,000=264,000

Although this is a bit ridiculous, whatever species created the Reapers probably did take a few million years to do so.

We'll just put 100,000-175,000 as a number.

Why the 75,000 range? Who says the Reapers don't reap other galaxies?

[Reapinger]

Dannyboy9876 wrote...

Reapers target the Milky Way, as far as we know.
The oldest object in the Milky Way is 13.2 billion years old.

13,200,000,000/50,000=264,000

Although this is a bit ridiculous, whatever species created the Reapers probably did take a few million years to do so.

We'll just put 100,000-175,000 as a number.

Why the 75,000 range? Who says the Reapers don't reap other galaxies?

The sad thing is, I'm beginning to think that they DO reap other galaxies. Harbinger says we are approaching YOUR galaxy, not the galaxy or our galaxy. 

[RAF1940]

Reapinger wrote...

Dannyboy9876 wrote...

Reapers target the Milky Way, as far as we know.
The oldest object in the Milky Way is 13.2 billion years old.

13,200,000,000/50,000=264,000

Although this is a bit ridiculous, whatever species created the Reapers probably did take a few million years to do so.

We'll just put 100,000-175,000 as a number.

Why the 75,000 range? Who says the Reapers don't reap other galaxies?

The sad thing is, I'm beginning to think that they DO reap other galaxies. Harbinger says we are approaching YOUR galaxy, not the galaxy or our galaxy. 

Traveling between galaxies would not be fun.