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[King Zeel]

Now this isn't a bash thread. I love Bioware, they've made some of my favourite games and their products are top notch. Before the DA2 debacle, I could of proudly proclaimed that Bioware makes the best rpg's of all time.



That all being said, reading some of the suggestions and comments, aren't you guys putting a little too much faith in a company? 

Like, you'll see people voicing their concerns about like RPG elements, plot points, fleshed out characters and it doesn't take longer than the 4th reply for someone to crawl out of their obscure hiding place to yell at the top of their lungs:

BIOWARE WILL DELIVER ON EVERYTHING! DONT YOU WORRY!!!!!!!!!! ITS THE THIRD GAME! DUH!


They come in with such velocity that you almost want to believe them, but their faith is misplaced. Bioware is still a gaming company. I don't expect anything more than a 20 hour wrap up of the trilogy. You guys, for some reason expect much more.


Will 3 deliver? I wish I could say "YES!!!" like all of you guys, but I don't think it will be much better than the first one or even the second. I hope to be proved wrong, but seeing the new stuff, the direction the game is heading isn't exactly innovative and considering Mass effects trend of appealing to the fangirls, I'm not exactly optimistic.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

I had you pegged as a troll, and so you shall remain.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 24 juin 2011 - 05:06 .

[Raiil]

People expect quality for the money they're paying, news at eleven.

[JukeFrog]

I always expect games to average at best, that way I won't be disappointed. Molyneux taught me that.

[Massadonious1]

If this was posted by anyone else, I might take you seriously.

[King Zeel]

Valentia X wrote...

People expect quality for the money they're paying, news at eleven.

News flash: quality doesn't mean all your silly little features get added, like joker romance, s/s romance and all the other trivial romances you guys want.

Quality also doesn't mean a crap load of character background and interactions that bog down the game.

QUALITY is what Bioware is use to producing, what the fans want is something completely different.

Modifié par King Zeel, 24 juin 2011 - 05:08 .

[KainrycKarr]

I expect it to be as long as ME2, possibly a tad longer. That's also about the length they've said it's going to be.

As far as RPG features, I've seen enough to know I will be satisfied. Everything that has yet to be shown is just icing on the cake.

Also, stop trolling.

[Dangerfoot]

I expect it to be anywhere from slightly worse to slightly better than ME2.

Hopefully much better than DA2.

[KainrycKarr]

King Zeel wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

People expect quality for the money they're paying, news at eleven.

News flash: quality doesn't mean all your silly little features get added, like joker romance, s/s romance and all the other trivial romances you guys want.

Quality also doesn't mean a crap load of character background and interactions that bog down the game.

QUALITY is what Bioware is use to producing, what the fans want is something completely different.

Yep, definately trolling.

[Raiil]

King Zeel wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

People expect quality for the money they're paying, news at eleven.

News flash: quality doesn't mean all your silly little features get added, like joker romance, s/s romance and all the other trivial romances you guys want.

Quality also doesn't mean a crap load of character background and interactions that bog down the game.

QUALITY is what Bioware is use to producing, what the fans want is something completely different.

News flash: quality doesn't mean anyone gets exactly what they want.

Quality also means that they listen to feedback and make decisions from there.

QUALITY is what Bioware is used to producing, which tends to coincide with what fans want, since they make really popular games.

[Massadonious1]

Romances are new? I distinctly remember sticking it to Aerie, who is pretty much a D&D version of Tali.

[King Zeel]

yes, this is all a big elaborate troll involving real points and logical thinking. Thanks, take your replies elsewhere if you consider this a troll. I know "serious discussions" are uncommon here. I guess I should make this a BIOWARE SUPPORT THREAD. maybe then I wouldn't be considered a troll.


Good grief.

[Davie McG]

I expect a decent conclusion to the story, on par with the rest of the trilogy. I'm not expecting Pulp Fiction level brilliance from a game.

Gameplay wise I wouldn't be disappointed with an improved version of what we got in ME 2.

[S.A.K]

I hope it can deliver. From what I've seen I think it will. Btw sorry about reporting your last post. It was just making people mad. If you stop trolling and keep it level you'll have others support.

[TexasToast712]

 I for one liked DAII (Yes, I played Origins. I just never registered my copy because I downloaded it off the marketplace.). I dont understand all the hate. Bioware has yet to disappoint me. I am tired of all the ****ing. I just wish the whiners would just bend over and take what Bioware is giving them because no amount of whining will get them what they want.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 24 juin 2011 - 05:14 .

[King Zeel]

Valentia X wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

People expect quality for the money they're paying, news at eleven.

News flash: quality doesn't mean all your silly little features get added, like joker romance, s/s romance and all the other trivial romances you guys want.

Quality also doesn't mean a crap load of character background and interactions that bog down the game.

QUALITY is what Bioware is use to producing, what the fans want is something completely different.

News flash: quality doesn't mean anyone gets exactly what they want.


Quality also means that they listen to feedback and make decisions from there.

QUALITY is what Bioware is used to producing, which tends to coincide with what fans want, since they make really popular games.

WHEN has Bioware listened to what the "fans" want in their games? Only in this series did they force that Garrus/Tali romance. The rest of Bioware's games have been pure ingeniuity.

Oh, and here's the memo: there's nothing that I "specifically" want, again, my expectations aren't high.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

King Zeel wrote...

yes, this is all a big elaborate troll involving real points and logical thinking. Thanks, take your replies elsewhere if you consider this a troll. I know "serious discussions" are uncommon here. I guess I should make this a BIOWARE SUPPORT THREAD. maybe then I wouldn't be considered a troll.


Good grief.

[King Zeel]

TexasToast712 wrote...

 I for one liked DAII. I dont understand all the hate. Bioware has yet to disappoint me. I am tired of all the ****ing. I just wish the whiners would just bend over and take what Bioware is giving them because no amount of whining will get them what they want.

we agree on everything except DA2. I am the one who wants Bioware to be incharge of the developing by NOT listening to the fans.

[AdmiralCheez]

Garrus is back, m/m romance, Atlas mech, weapon customization.

Expectations already exceeded. At this point I just need it to be a fun game with a satisfying conclusion.

[King Zeel]

Dangerfoot wrote...

I expect it to be anywhere from slightly worse to slightly better than ME2.

Hopefully much better than DA2.

I agree. I also expect the romances to consume more time than necessary.

If I see Joker romance I think I'm done with Bioware.

[AdmiralCheez]

King Zeel wrote...

we agree on everything except DA2. I am the one who wants Bioware to be incharge of the developing by NOT listening to the fans.

But if they did that, they'd be listening to the fans who said they shouldn't listen to the fans.

So they'd still be listening to the fans, wouldn't they?

YOU CANNOT ESCAPE.

[King Zeel]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Romances are new? I distinctly remember sticking it to Aerie, who is pretty much a D&D version of Tali.

Ugh. I'm so tired of these statements. THIS CHARACTER IS LIKE SO AND SO AND SO AND SO AND SO AND SO.

My papa always told me; You do enough digging you bound to find graves.

[TexasToast712]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

we agree on everything except DA2. I am the one who wants Bioware to be incharge of the developing by NOT listening to the fans.

But if they did that, they'd be listening to the fans who said they shouldn't listen to the fans.

So they'd still be listening to the fans, wouldn't they?

YOU CANNOT ESCAPE.

FUUUUUUUUUUU-*head explodes*

[George-Kinsill]

King Zeel wrote...



 I don't expect anything more than a 20 hour wrap up of the trilogy. You guys, for some reason expect much more.

Well that's just an ureasonably ow expectation. Even DA2 was 40 hours. Regardless, you are just being overly pessimistic. The storylies of both games have been great so far, along with character development, and the gameplay hit its stride in ME2, and now the tweaks are being made to perfect it even more. The main concern I have is that the Reaper motive more be othing more than aimalistic, but besides that, no we are not beng overly optiistic.
As for Dragon Age, it pretty much had a wrapped up storylie in origins, so 2 was an obvious tack on (I hate to say it) whereas ME was planned as a trilogy from the start, and was made by a different branch of BW than DA. You have you're rght to your opiion, but I think you are worrying too much.

[KainrycKarr]

King Zeel wrote...

yes, this is all a big elaborate troll involving real points and logical thinking. Thanks, take your replies elsewhere if you consider this a troll. I know "serious discussions" are uncommon here. I guess I should make this a BIOWARE SUPPORT THREAD. maybe then I wouldn't be considered a troll.


Good grief.

None of your post history could be placed in the same sentence as real points and logical thinking.

Even at the baseline, everything you've said is nothing radical opinions that are all but obviously designed to hit the hot buttons in this forum.