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[Malanek]

King Zeel wrote...
Like, you'll see people voicing their concerns about like RPG elements, plot points, fleshed out characters and it doesn't take longer than the 4th reply for someone to crawl out of their obscure hiding place to yell at the top of their lungs:

BIOWARE WILL DELIVER ON EVERYTHING! DONT YOU WORRY!!!!!!!!!! ITS THE THIRD GAME! DUH!

It depends on the concern. I actively disagree with quite a lot of the concerns. Particularly when they want to bring back some aspect from ME1 like the inventory or the Mako or cooldowns or get rid of ammo powers etc etc. On the other hand I do have some concerns like Christina Norman leaving, the increased power and emphasis of melee attacks, the retention of prerequisites etc. Context is everthing.

[zeoduos]

For companies like Bioware, it is only right for us as consumers to expect the best. You can say that maybe we are putting too much pressure on them but that is their job and we expect them to put the best of their efforts into their product regardless of whether it's a new product or a continuation such as ME3.

The game industry as a whole is worth billions and developers/companies should always try to exceed the consumers expectations. Otherwise, we would lose faith and the gaming industry will go down.

[MonkeyLungs]

I just want a satisfying conclusiong to Shep's story. It better be better than part 2. It will not be better than ME1 which is the best of the series.

[Massadonious1]

King Zeel wrote...

My papa always told me; You do enough digging you bound to find graves.

And yet you act as if the entire romance mechanic is something new or below BioWare's "standard".

Jaheira was in BG1, and I'm willing to bet a little fanservice was involved to get her romancable in BG2. Does that shatter your misguided worldview?

[King Zeel]

zeoduos wrote...

For companies like Bioware, it is only right for us as consumers to expect the best. You can say that maybe we are putting too much pressure on them but that is their job and we expect them to put the best of their efforts into their product regardless of whether it's a new product or a continuation such as ME3.

The game industry as a whole is worth billions and developers/companies should always try to exceed the consumers expectations. Otherwise, we would lose faith and the gaming industry will go down.

Sorry, I think you got on the wrong bus. Circus-fun-fair-delusional-world is on the next one. this is the reality bus.

Bioware is a business, one of the main reasons they even let garrus/tali become romanceable was to make the cash.

[Lucifer_Cheney]

TexasToast712 wrote...

 I for one liked DAII (Yes, I played Origins. I just never registered my copy because I downloaded it off the marketplace.). I dont understand all the hate. Bioware has yet to disappoint me. I am tired of all the ****ing. I just wish the whiners would just bend over and take what Bioware is giving them because no amount of whining will get them what they want.

Yes, because we don't want people to speak out against something they don't agree with.  Imagine the the problems that would cause for single-minded corporations.

viva la' status quo!

[King Zeel]

Massadonious1 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

My papa always told me; You do enough digging you bound to find graves.

And yet you act as if the entire romance mechanic is something new or below BioWare's "standard".

Jaheira was in BG1, and I'm willing to bet a little fanservice was involved to get her romancable in BG2. Does that shatter your misguided worldview?

Jaheira, Viconia and Aerie were all excellent written romances without the corny sex scene and more about plot development. They don't compare to the romance crap we have now.

[Nightdragon8]

Dangerfoot wrote...

I expect it to be anywhere from slightly worse to slightly better than ME2.

Hopefully much better than DA2.

thats why im worried I mean they added an omiblade... or whatever its going to be called... (robocop clone)

[King Zeel]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

I just want a satisfying conclusiong to Shep's story. It better be better than part 2. It will not be better than ME1 which is the best of the series.

Yes, the wisest always speaks bluntly.

[Malanek]

King Zeel wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

My papa always told me; You do enough digging you bound to find graves.

And yet you act as if the entire romance mechanic is something new or below BioWare's "standard".

Jaheira was in BG1, and I'm willing to bet a little fanservice was involved to get her romancable in BG2. Does that shatter your misguided worldview?

Jaheira, Viconia and Aerie were all excellent written romances without the corny sex scene and more about plot development. They don't compare to the romance crap we have now.

You don't think the Aerie having a baby scene was corny?

[King Zeel]

Malanek999 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

My papa always told me; You do enough digging you bound to find graves.

And yet you act as if the entire romance mechanic is something new or below BioWare's "standard".

Jaheira was in BG1, and I'm willing to bet a little fanservice was involved to get her romancable in BG2. Does that shatter your misguided worldview?

Jaheira, Viconia and Aerie were all excellent written romances without the corny sex scene and more about plot development. They don't compare to the romance crap we have now.

You don't think the Aerie having a baby scene was corny?

No. not really. sems like a real life consquence of tent-sex. though I thought she had the baby in the epligue or it died or something? S'been so long.

[George-Kinsill]

@ King Zeel: There is nothing wrong to listening to fans, so long as they don't dictate. Sure, one extreme is complete fan service (i.e. Final Fantasy Dissidia by Square Enix) but you can also have no listening to fans whatsoever (Square Enix re-releasing FFIV every year when no one wants it). A god game company walks this fine line, and so far, BW has done a pretty good job without hurting quality or plot.

[Massadonious1]

I'm willing to bet that if they had the technology then that they do now, that the romances would of been a little more "fleshed" out.

[S.A.K]

King Zeel wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

I just want a satisfying conclusiong to Shep's story. It better be better than part 2. It will not be better than ME1 which is the best of the series.

Yes, the wisest always speaks bluntly.

I sure hope you change your atitude. Yesterday your alien romance thread got block by stanley when I told him about it. You start fighting with people and that brake site rules.

[Bogsnot1]

King Zeel wrote...
My papa always told me; You do enough digging you bound to find graves.

And you cross enough bridges, you're bound to encounter a troll.

[MrFob]

Hm, I'd say that I do have very high expectations, especially regarding the story.
Usually when I post here I either try to make suggestions as to what I would like (r not like) to see in the game. I try to keep reasonable and feasible with what I suggest but i am fully aware that sometimes I would like have stuff in the game which may just not be possible for reasons I don't even know.
I think the point is not to get too rigid in ones expectations and be open minded for change.
Yes I had my little disappointments when I first played ME2 but most of the changes had their positive and their negative sides and overall it was a great ride. In a way I expect the dame from ME3.
However, as long as you keep an open mind and try to embrace changes rather than to outright reject them (because it's not like it used to be), I think we are yet again up for a great ride, possibly even better thatn we have seen so far.

[DoNotIngest]

King Zeel wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Romances are new? I distinctly remember sticking it to Aerie, who is pretty much a D&D version of Tali.

Ugh. I'm so tired of these statements. THIS CHARACTER IS LIKE SO AND SO AND SO AND SO AND SO AND SO.

Funny, considering the majority of your posts are usually trolling in a Tali thread.


Obvious Troll is Obvious

[TexasToast712]

Lucifer_Cheney wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 I for one liked DAII (Yes, I played Origins. I just never registered my copy because I downloaded it off the marketplace.). I dont understand all the hate. Bioware has yet to disappoint me. I am tired of all the ****ing. I just wish the whiners would just bend over and take what Bioware is giving them because no amount of whining will get them what they want.

Yes, because we don't want people to speak out against something they don't agree with.  Imagine the the problems that would cause for single-minded corporations.

viva la' status quo!

The people speaking out are the minority. Example. Idiots who want to see the return of the flawed ME1 weapons system.(overheating weapons and Mods) They just want the ability to have a God gun. They could care less about "Teh RpG elementZ!".

[elearon1]

 Be aware that King Zeel IS a Troll, which he has proven in previous threads.  Even if he says nothing particularly inflamatory or inspirational in his initial post, it isn't long before he starts saying things like this: 

 , s/s romance and all the other trivial romances you guys want.

In order to get outrage from his readers.  

As for expecting too much; people always have high hopes for games and some of those things mentioned - better rp elements, s/s romance - have already been promised be the developers.  (and while the game is a year out, and anything could change, I don't see these two elements being dropped)

Unless you are one of those players who manage to get through games in extremely short periods of time, it is very unlikely the game will be 20 hours long.  ME2 is about 35 hours long and it only has one possible ending ... I suspect ME3 may be slightly shorter per runthrough, but have much better replayability. 

I EXPECT the quality of ME3 to be on par with ME2, (ME1, I still think, had the best story of the series thus far) and anything beyond that is just icing on the cake. (though the inclusion of S/S romances already give it a finger up on its predecessors)

[Malanek]

King Zeel wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...
You don't think the Aerie having a baby scene was corny?

No. not really. sems like a real life consquence of tent-sex. though I thought she had the baby in the epligue or it died or something? S'been so long.

No, it wasn't the epilogue and it didn't die as far as I am aware. It was a conversation that happens out of the blue (somewhat) and the baby becomes an inventory item.

[King Zeel]

MrFob wrote...

Hm, I'd say that I do have very high expectations, especially regarding the story.
Usually when I post here I either try to make suggestions as to what I would like (r not like) to see in the game. I try to keep reasonable and feasible with what I suggest but i am fully aware that sometimes I would like have stuff in the game which may just not be possible for reasons I don't even know.
I think the point is not to get too rigid in ones expectations and be open minded for change.
Yes I had my little disappointments when I first played ME2 but most of the changes had their positive and their negative sides and overall it was a great ride. In a way I expect the dame from ME3.
However, as long as you keep an open mind and try to embrace changes rather than to outright reject them (because it's not like it used to be), I think we are yet again up for a great ride, possibly even better thatn we have seen so far.

No disagreements here.

However, the majority think different from you.

They want SILLY things added and they want them now or they'll complain.

[SamTheSalarian]

JukeFrog wrote...

I always expect games to average at best, that way I won't be disappointed. Molyneux taught me that.

YES. You and I think alike dear sir!

[HopHazzard]

I enjoyed ME1 and ME2. My only expectation for ME3 is that I will enjoy it as well. There are things I wish they would have done differently in both games, and I'm sure there will be things about ME3 I'll wish they will have done differently. But the only thing I really expect is that BioWare will make a game I'll enjoy playing. They haven't let me down in that regard so far.

[onelifecrisis]

@King Zeel

It might help (me, at least) if you explain which areas you think they won't deliver on, and why you think they won't deliver.

[King Zeel]

DoNotIngest wrote...


Funny, considering the majority of your posts are usually trolling in a Tali thread.


Obvious Troll is Obvious

Not one of my posts have been in a Tali thread. I stay away from threads that I don't like. hint, hint.

elearon1 wrote...

 Be aware that King Zeel IS a Troll,
which he has proven in previous threads.  Even if he says nothing
particularly inflamatory or inspirational in his initial post, it isn't
long before he starts saying things like this: 

 , s/s romance and all the other trivial romances you guys want.

In order to get outrage from his readers.  

As
for expecting too much; people always have high hopes for games and
some of those things mentioned - better rp elements, s/s romance - have
already been promised be the developers.  (and while the game is a year
out, and anything could change, I don't see these two elements being
dropped)

Unless you are one of those players who manage to get
through games in extremely short periods of time, it is very unlikely
the game will be 20 hours long.  ME2 is about 35 hours long and it only
has one possible ending ... I suspect ME3 may be slightly shorter per
runthrough, but have much better replayability. 

I EXPECT the
quality of ME3 to be on par with ME2, (ME1, I still think, had the best
story of the series thus far) and anything beyond that is just icing on
the cake. (though the inclusion of S/S romances already give it a finger
up on its predecessors)

Mentioning how trivial s/s romances are is "trolling". Well, call me a troll because s/s romances are trivial and completely unnecessary.


Finally, yes, 20 hours, they have alot of content to add , alot of characters too and romances paths and endings and all that stuff the fans HAD to have, so I doubt the game will be that long.