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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

After ME2, I don't except much from ME3,more so with Christina gone and Walters still the lead writer.

Christina left?

Essplain zis to me.

She's gone from Bioware, someone else is doing the gameplay now.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

After ME2, I don't except much from ME3,more so with Christina gone and Walters still the lead writer.

Christina left?

Essplain zis to me.


'tis true, sadly http://www.ripten.co...eaving-bioware/

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Got married, moved out of Edmonton.

Who took over?


Preston Watamaniuk.


I think he worked with KOTOR.

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Mesina2 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Got married, moved out of Edmonton.

Who took over?


Preston Watamaniuk.


I think he worked with KOTOR.


Oh god... please tell me you're wrong, or joking.

#105
Mr.House

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onelifecrisis wrote...

Oh god... please tell me you're wrong, or joking.

Why?

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RainyDayLover wrote...

'tis true, sadly http://www.ripten.co...eaving-bioware/

Sadfacing so hard right now.

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From the actual thread.

Brenon Holmes wrote...

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When you say Lead designer of ME1 and ME2, don't you mean ME3 as well or do you have a different Lead Designer for ME3?


Preston is and always has been the Lead Designer of all of the ME games. Christina was the lead of the design portion of the gameplay group.



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CroGamer002

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What Preston Watamaniuk did wrong?

Also Chris said:

I was sad to see Christina go as she was a great coworker and a lot of fun outside the office and at conventions as well as being incredibly smart with what she did for the games she worked on. Still, love conquers all and moved on. Yes, the team was aware of this with plenty of time and Preston Watamaniuk, the Lead Designer of ME1 and ME2 is stepping in to fill Christina's shoes.



10th page of Known Features thread.

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Harmless Crunch

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Meh.
If ME3 dosen't have homosexual romances, it wil still be a great game.
If ME3 dosen't have RPG elements, it wil still be a great game. Etc
The point I'm trying to make is this; I'd love for some of these smaller feauteres to be in the game but I won't be dissapointed if aren't and I'll still enjoy ME3 regardless.

No, I'll be dissaspointed if BioWare can't do basic things (For there standards) like...
Having a satisfying conclusion.
Making as many improvments to gameplay as possible. Etc.

If BioWare can't do that I'll be very dissapointed. But I'm sure they will.

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RainyDayLover wrote...

'tis true, sadly http://www.ripten.co...eaving-bioware/


Oh, first time I heard of this. That's a shame :(.

Modifié par MrFob, 24 juin 2011 - 06:23 .


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If it were Obsidian, I would worry...

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onelifecrisis

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Mr.House wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Oh god... please tell me you're wrong, or joking.

Why?


Well, let's just say I'm not a big fan of KOTOR.
*don't hit me* :unsure:

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If this was posted by anyone else, I might take you seriously.


This^...King Zeel(ot) is a troll.

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The only thing i was missing in Mass Effect 2 was a good melee attack to my Vanguard class after i use charge, but now it seems that Mass Effect 3 will be my dream game ! Hight expectations of BioWare? Ofc what else..

This will be the best game ever! :)

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King Zeel wrote...
Mentioning how trivial s/s romances are is "trolling". Well, call me a troll because s/s romances are trivial and completely unnecessary.


The S/S issue is not simply about Relationships, there is a broader social issue at play there.  And while I think you are a Troll, I don't believe you're a stupid person, so either you have no respect for the social implications or you are purposefully dismissing them to get people upset.  

I do know that some people don't understand how important something like an S/S presence is in a triple A game, but it goes a long way toward breaking down certain boundaries in popular media and telling people that homosexuality is not something to be frightened of.

You don't like the idea that charcters, who you have a very defined image of, could be ****** or bisexual - I get that - but sometimes you have to realize that your own tastes have to give way to bigger issues.  Me, I don't see some of the characters as being ****** or bisexual either, but so long as I don't go looking for that, it doesn't really effect my game.  More importantly, it does make the game a lot more enjoyable for the people who would have loved to be equally represented in the previous titles but were not.  

Maybe you're the type of person who begrudges others their enjoyment and good fortune - but that doesn't make that sort of behavior right. 

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Hey, bro. Bioware is going to do an amazing job. No worries.

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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Hey, bro. Bioware is going to do an amazing job. No worries.


Dragon Age II and Awakenings were meant to be "amazing" as well.  Look what happened Awakening has been abandoned and DA2 is soon to follow with three on the way.  That said Mass effect has yet to fail me.  But I will not blindly believe it will be foolproof.  I will hope however.

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Mr.House wrote...

After ME2, I don't except much from ME3,more so with Christina gone and Walters still the lead writer.


I'm confused by this. Did you like what Christina did on ME2 or not?

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It really was EA, I'm sure Bioware did everything they could with DA2, they cant disobey the master...

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Eh you can't talk about that sort of "stuff" though. Anyone who should even suggest there maybe things they don't like about Bioware games or Bioware should be burned at the stake! In short there's a lot of pessimism against any would-be pessimists, which I find ironic.

Even more so because there are certainly things Bioware could do that could potentially send every user here into a frenzy. Everyone has their "hot button" issue, likes and dislikes. Many of the folks here are contented with the games so when anyone suggests any changes to them they tend to attack them as they feel they may be jeopardizing their "future fun". My biggest annoyance with BSN in general is the utter lack of any attempts at compromise, which really is the only good way to settle things. But nope, instead it's always the same deal with everyone digging their trench lines and then labeling others as "trolls" or "fanboys". Although really trolls and fanboys are the exact same thing, they just have different goals. I just happen to be a bit of both it seems.


Although admittedly OP you do seem to be stoking those flames. I share some of your resentments, but if you're going to be belligerent about it then you're on your own. I'm much more inclined to take sides with people who at least appear somewhat tactful and earnest in their arguements even if they oppose my  own. Though I can't pretend I don't fly off the handle at times.

But I am tired and Boo thinks I'm just being ducky.

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JunMadine wrote...

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Hey, bro. Bioware is going to do an amazing job. No worries.


Dragon Age II and Awakenings were meant to be "amazing" as well.  Look what happened Awakening has been abandoned and DA2 is soon to follow with three on the way.  That said Mass effect has yet to fail me.  But I will not blindly believe it will be foolproof.  I will hope however.


Exactly how I feel, the one thing I see as a good sign is, that right after the first wave of negative feedback for DA2 came, they pushed the release date. I hope that means they're trying to do it right and to make sure they don't do the same mistakes.
I even see it as a good sign that they pushed the date at all. Something Biwoare should have done with DA2...

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My expectations of most games are never very high, for me it’s a bit like going to see a blockbuster movie that everyone loves, go in with low expectations and you usually get something out of it. This happened to me with ME2. My low expectations meant that the thin plot with no real “bad guy” to anchor the story like with ME1 didn’t bother me. What exceeded my expectations was the rich character focus and it made ME2 a bloody good ride.
 
If your expectations are low based on a bunch of trailers and some goofy marketing then maybe you will be surprised, but if they are high based on what you expect an rpg to be or how you think character development should affect the story, then you are going to be disappointed no matter whether it is technically a good game or not or whether other people love the game or not.
 
I'm not giving Bioware my undying trust but also I’m not willing to crystal ball gaze. I’ll just return to Laidbackistan and just wait and see.

And just on another note, King Zeel, you seem to be on this slippery slope where a lot of what you say (in a lot of your posts here and outside this thread) is coming off as "I don't like what you like, ergo, you suck."

So perhaps you can back off a little, don't be so aggressive, and people might stop calling you a troll and  take what you say a little more seriously.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 24 juin 2011 - 07:20 .


#123
SomeKindaEnigma

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JunMadine wrote...

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Hey, bro. Bioware is going to do an amazing job. No worries.


Dragon Age II and Awakenings were meant to be "amazing" as well.  Look what happened Awakening has been abandoned and DA2 is soon to follow with three on the way.  That said Mass effect has yet to fail me.  But I will not blindly believe it will be foolproof.  I will hope however.


My response was really just a play on the OP's gripe lol...

But I do think some people worry too much.  Different dev team from the DA team should be the first shining example of why one shouldn't overworry.  I think the Casey and the ME dev team also made it abundantly clear at E3 that ME3 is going to have the best of both worlds from ME1 and ME2, such as improved combat AND much better/more RPG aspects than ME2. 

In the end, the ME dev team knows what it's doing.  They don't get paid to fail the fans.  And also, it's just a game.  One that I am looking forward to maybe more so than any other game I ever anticipated, but again, it's a game.  People shouldn't over think it/overworry about it.

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We consumers must have high expectations on the producers of any product. No exceptions. If we don't demand the best possible for our money, wich is what we deserve, no one else will do it for us. Instead the producers will make a unspoken agreement between them and their competition to keep the quality down as that costs them all less time and money.

Of course we don't expect that all our demands and wishes will be fullfilled. It is impossible to make everyone happy. But by demanding and more importantly only pay for quality we get overall better products.

And before anyone trolls me, yes I think that the BioWare games I have played was well worth my money. I hope that this will continue but I know that no one is perfect so if the quality drops I will be less motivated to give them my money. No doubt BioWare and EA knows this too.

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I was quite satisfied with both 1 & 2 and I am looking forward to 3. If it ends up only slightly better than 2 I will still be content. I'm optimistic and not a complainer so I don't have much to add to the negative threads. If I don't generally like what I see than I won't play the game. Simple. I don't personally care for some of the optional content being implemented but that stuff would make a lot fans happy so I don't care to have it removed either.