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[wombo87]

Well ME 1 & 2 did not disappoint, so I'm not worried about being disappointed this time around. That said I don't have a problem with most of the things that some fans on these forums have taken issue with, so I'm easy to please. I ussually try to simply enjoy things for what they are, rather than build them up so that they do disappoint when they arrive.

[Captain Crash]

Some people will have undoubtedly built up such a high expectation that nothing will match what they want it to be.

I think the majority are more realistic. They know the previous two games have been building up to this moment and they want it to be the best of the series. Understandable because in essence the previous games have been exposing the threat and its build up. Plus with all the feedback Bioware have got, its evident what the fans want from the game. What they have revealed so far has matched that expectation on the most part. An epic end to an amazing series

[Il Divo]

King Zeel wrote...

Characters: Now I do love the characters as well and yes the romance mini-game isn't that bad, so i am a little bit concerned about how they're going to treat the characters. Looking at new designs and little tweets and stuff it seems the characters will be reduced to some bastardized version to appeal to the mainstream.

What the hell does this even mean?

[CaptainSpandex]

It's not a matter of 'expecting too much'. It's a matter of 'expecting to get what you're told you'll get'.

If I were waiting on Gears of War 3 with bated breath, I'd be pretty cranky with Epic Games if they randomly gave me a stealth game instead. I bought Mass Effect 2 expecting an RPG, and I got Gears of War with some (mild) RPG elements and a tacked-on dating sim. 

It's not undue expectation to expect an RPG from a company that makes RPGs.

[78stonewobble]

JukeFrog wrote...

I always expect games to average at best, that way I won't be disappointed. Molyneux taught me that.

Agreed or I try to.

So I haven't been REALLY disappointed in quite a while.

I did get too excited about Deus Ex 2. The game itself was actually decent but just couldn't compaire to the original game.

Far Cry 2 was also a major disappointment. Not because of high expectations of gameplay or story but because it flat out refused to run on vista or windows 7 for me. Rarely had I had games (since win 98 days) force me to hard reboots. It worked on windows xp but I was moving away from that and directx 10 had been quite the feature. Since it supposedly ran faster under that (as one of the few games where it worked faster).

SO... Low expectation...

Don't expect revolutions, the 8th wonder or anything like that. I DO expect my game to entertain me for atleast 30 hours (standard for me) and run pretty much bugfree.

Crashes do really ruin games for me. I can be assed to try out 1-2 new drivers for specific hardware but no more or I recommend people to stay away from it. Poor performance too... Not that I'm a graphics **** but if the game runs... hmm... non smooth it becomes a little thing that annoys me throughout the entire game.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 24 juin 2011 - 12:02 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I grade companies on the same terms as I would grade students in a classroom. Every company has different skills at different levels. If the product is good for the size of the company and the duration of time spent on it, then I consider it a job well done. After a few products produced, a pattern emerges and my expectations form. From that, I have a very loose set of standards for the company. If the product is part of a series I look at the game, examine if it's key features which defines it from other games are missing, changed or if there are quality issues with them. If standards go down or changes are made which redefines the experience in a way that does not compensate for the standards lost, then I give it a lower grade.

I personally feel Bioware let their own standards drop significantly for DA 2 in quality while also bending gameplay aspects past what helped define the original game within the genre. ME 2 felt like a ME game still to me, despite it's various gameplay configurations so it was change but it didn't break the experience for me. I am not sure I have high expectations from Bioware, since my expectations are based off of what Bioware is already dishing out. All I hope for is consistant quality while ironing out occaisonal rough spots.

On new IP, I have very few expectations other than what is announced.

Modifié par Ryllen Laerth Kriel, 24 juin 2011 - 12:01 .

[BickDutt]

You people really need to learn what's the meaning of the word "troll", because you really overuse it. Or you really just are head-burrying ****ty-diaper babies when someone comes with an opinion that isn't blind faith/praise.

Bioware is a corporation, not the mother of your unborn child.

Modifié par BickDutt, 24 juin 2011 - 11:58 .

[78stonewobble]

Btw. howcome that gaming companies rarely start a thread on their official forums where people come with "small" suggestions eg:

I'm a bit nearsited and screen xyz is kinda hard to read for me.
Performance on hardware xyz was kinda low.
If you did this little xyz thing it would add greatly to my game experience.

In biowares case: Taking the opportunity to learn a few extra lessons from ME2 and incorporate them in ME3.


" Bioware is a corporation, not the mother of your unborn child. " Interesting concept though. Software development doesn't include hard physical labour. So a way for bioware to make money on the side. Let the women carry children for infertile couples or single women.  Surely they can program some of the time.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 24 juin 2011 - 12:10 .

[Guitar-Hero]

I am a consumer, if the product they deliver is worth spending money on i will do so, if not then i won't, that being said the ME team have a good track record, is it going to be perfect? no, do they have a lot of pressure on them? yes, as for the rest i think DA2 is proof that sometimes things turn out unexpected.

[Tasker]

I've bought multiple copies of nearly all of the games Bioware has been involved in over the years...

... That is, untill they came out with ME2.

After the utter disappointment of ME2, the cartoony single player WoW clone that is TOR and the disgrace that is DA2, this will be the first generation of Bioware games that I doubt i'll even buy one copy of let alone several.

So to sum up... Although I used to have the very highest of expectations of Bioware because I knew that they would deliver, I no longer do.

[l DryIce l]

What I know: 
Mass Effect was great.
Mass Effect 2 was even better. 
I've seen gameplay footage from Mass Effect 3, and it looks great.
Both stories in both games were top notch, even given the fact that ME2 diverted a lot of time away from its main plot.
I have no reason to believe the same development team will make a product of less quality than before. 
I have VERY little control over what happens during the development of ME3. 

What I expect:
An amazing game. 

Modifié par l DryIce l, 24 juin 2011 - 12:29 .

[Il Divo]

l DryIce l wrote...

What I know: 
Mass Effect was great.
Mass Effect 2 was even better. 
I've seen gameplay footage from Mass Effect 3, and it looks great.
Both stories in both games were top notch, even given the fact that ME2 diverted a lot of time away from its main plot.
I have no reason to believe the same development team will make a product of less quality than before. 
I have VERY little control over what happens during the development of ME3. 

What I expect:
An amazing game. 

This human understands.

[Zall]

King Zeel wrote...

Will 3 deliver? I wish I could say "YES!!!" like all of you guys, but I don't think it will be much better than the first one or even the second. I hope to be proved wrong, but seeing the new stuff, the direction the game is heading isn't exactly innovative and considering Mass effects trend of appealing to the fangirls, I'm not exactly optimistic.

If ME3 really does it's best only to appeal to fangirls, than I should consider myself giddy happy. (No really, where did this fangirl-thing come from? S/S romance option or anything else?)

My personal belief is, as long as the game is on the same level as ME2 I'm gonna thoroughly enjoy the game. It doesn't matter how many crew mates I'm gonna lose or how many decisions are gonna bite me in the ass, as long it's as amazing as ME2 was.

[elearon1]

BickDutt wrote...

You people really need to learn what's the meaning of the word "troll", because you really overuse it.  

King Zeel has a history of Trolling this forum every day since he started his current screen name. (and before that, I imagine)  Thus, when people call him out on it, it is because they've been watching him do it quite a bit ... consequently, even threads that don't start out with his usual trollish bebavior are nonetheless stained by his reputation. 

[Eduadinho]

Ssshhh everyone I think the troll has gone to sleep let's get out of here before he wakes again.

[l DryIce l]

elearon1 wrote...

BickDutt wrote...

You people really need to learn what's the meaning of the word "troll", because you really overuse it.  

King Zeel has a history of Trolling this forum every day since he started his current screen name. (and before that, I imagine)  Thus, when people call him out on it, it is because they've been watching him do it quite a bit ... consequently, even threads that don't start out with his usual trollish bebavior are nonetheless stained by his reputation. 

Yepidy yep yep. 

[Perfecti0nist]

He's not a troll. He has some valid points, some I agree with and I'm a Bioware supporter. Just because somebody has a different opinion doesn't mean that they're trolling. Grow up.

[Massadonious1]

When he uses the line "appealing to fangirls", it's the same argument he uses when he thread bombs nearly every single thread in the character and discussion forum, especially those that talk about S/S romances.

Pardon me for not taking anything else he says seriously.

[l DryIce l]

Perfecti0nist wrote...

He's not a troll. He has some valid points, some I agree with and I'm a Bioware supporter. Just because somebody has a different opinion doesn't mean that they're trolling. Grow up.

When I constantly see him inciting anger and/or heated debate in multiple threads, his credibility gets hurt. 
"He's not a troll...grow up." 
I could insult your intelligence by saying that you just need to 'open your eyes'...but I won't. 

[Chaos Gate]

CaptainSpandex wrote...

It's not a matter of 'expecting too much'. It's a matter of 'expecting to get what you're told you'll get'.

If I were waiting on Gears of War 3 with bated breath, I'd be pretty cranky with Epic Games if they randomly gave me a stealth game instead. I bought Mass Effect 2 expecting an RPG, and I got Gears of War with some (mild) RPG elements and a tacked-on dating sim. 

It's not undue expectation to expect an RPG from a company that makes RPGs.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Akizora]

I have no doubt Mass Effect 3 will deliver an awesome experience for me, but I also have no doubt there will be things I find disappointing and some obvious flaws or tedium. Bioware has never made a perfect game in my opinion, but they have always made one I enjoy with just one exception; Neverwinter Nights...I don't know why I didn't like it, I just didn't.

[lovgreno]

Zall wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Will 3 deliver? I wish I could say "YES!!!" like all of you guys, but I don't think it will be much better than the first one or even the second. I hope to be proved wrong, but seeing the new stuff, the direction the game is heading isn't exactly innovative and considering Mass effects trend of appealing to the fangirls, I'm not exactly optimistic.

If ME3 really does it's best only to appeal to fangirls, than I should consider myself giddy happy. (No really, where did this fangirl-thing come from? S/S romance option or anything else?)

My personal belief is, as long as the game is on the same level as ME2 I'm gonna thoroughly enjoy the game. It doesn't matter how many crew mates I'm gonna lose or how many decisions are gonna bite me in the ass, as long it's as amazing as ME2 was.

To me it seems like it was a long time ago the main target audience for mainstream games had to be just young males. It is economicaly wise to consider what more than half of the population of Earth may want to pay for when it comes to games. This is probably more good than bad qas diversity usualy is a good thing, it certanly inspires new concepts at least.

Yeah I do get the feeling that many (I can't say if it's a majority of course) female potential costumers realy want some S/S romance, especialy guy on guy loving. Well, if that is what we get in ME3, I'm okay with that..

Back on topic, we don't want the sometimes entertaining "No/yes to bi squadmates" discussion to take over this interesting topic.

Yeah I think ME3 has the potential to become at least as good as ME2 was, because that's what they said their goal was right? To make a even better version of ME2 and take the extra time needed to try to live up to the high expectations they set for themselves. I have no reason to belive that they would be lying about this.

[Whatever42]

Assuming the OP is not a troll and is simply saying don't let your expectations run away with you then that's good advice at any time. ME3 will be a top-notch game, absolutely. Expecting the greatest game in the history of gaming and that Bioware will cater to all your personal desires is obviously silly.

We did see a bit of backlash from ME1 fans with that. OMG this game sucks because they introduced heat clips! We might get the same with a few fans: OMG Ashley isn't bi! But if someone is so far gone that they're demanding and expecting Bioware to cater to every whim (even if sometimes Bioware does) then you can't reason with them anyway.

Obviously, no one on this thread is like that but I suspect there are a few lurking on there.

[Lumikki]

Valentia X wrote...

People expect quality for the money they're paying, news at eleven.

I find it funny when someone pays few bucks and then request moons from sky because of it.

[Badpie]

I expect to get a satisfying game for the money I'm paying. I don't think this is "expecting too much." That being said, there are going to be things about the game I don't like, just like there are going to be things I love. You can't please everybody all the time no matter what you do. In general I feel like Bioware has been pretty good at pleasing the majority of people and making thier games well worth the money and time to play them.*

Do do I expect them to deliver on all the things they've been telling us they're going to deliver on? Yes. I do. If they don't it will be disappointing, but I'm not gonna just go ahead and say "oh they'll never be able to deliver."

*....Except for DA2. I want my money back for that.