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[KainrycKarr]

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

[S.A.K]

I think its safe to assume that the previous confirmed "permanent" squad mates will be there for most of the game and there might be times they are unavailable and other unconfirmed once are taking their place.
Also Garrus and Tali can be dead for some players. I don't think they will get replacements because that will be contrary to having major "consiquances" in ME3. The players who lost squad mates might have to deal with what they have.

[S.A.K]

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

He said nothing is permanent which means what he said apply to everyone.

On a minor note,
noisecode thats avatar is awsome. From The Ring right?

Modifié par S.A.K, 24 juin 2011 - 03:21 .

[noisecode]

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

I really hope thats the case, and it sort of makes sense when you put it that way.

On the other hand Hudson might have said what he said so that when the game get's released and she (or Garrus, or anyone else)  is a temporary squadmate he can say "SEE!   I never said he/she was permanent."


Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.   thats what i always say.

Modifié par noisecode, 24 juin 2011 - 03:21 .

[KainrycKarr]

S.A.K wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

He said nothing is permanent which means what he said apply to everyone.

That's what I said lol. I think there will be situations like those for all squadmates.

[KainrycKarr]

noisecode wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

I really hope thats the case, and it sort of makes sense when you put it that way.

On the other hand Hudson might have said what he said so that when the game get's released and and she is a temporary squadmate he can say "SEE!   I never said she was permanent."


Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.   thats what i always say.

I'm 100% positive she won't just be a "temporary" squadmate, based on his cumulative tweets.

[S.A.K]

KainrycKarr wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

He said nothing is permanent which means what he said apply to everyone.

That's what I said lol. I think there will be situations like those for all squadmates.

Hahaha missed that line completely. So silly

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'd really like to see more firsthand details on this issue. Perhaps soon, though.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Indeed, that's the only thing any of us can do at this point.

[shepskisaac]

S.A.K wrote...
He said nothing is permanent which means what he said apply to everyone.

But then he said "permanent squad mates" just a month ago.

[Fiery Phoenix]

IsaacShep wrote...

S.A.K wrote...
He said nothing is permanent which means what he said apply to everyone.

But then he said "permanent squad mates" just a month ago.

Hence this entire thread.

[KainrycKarr]

IsaacShep wrote...

S.A.K wrote...
He said nothing is permanent which means what he said apply to everyone.

But then he said "permanent squad mates" just a month ago.

He also confirmed Tali as one of said "permanent squad mates" in that same frame.

What are you gettin' at, Casey?

[RAF1940]

IsaacShep wrote...

Uh oh this is gonna be interesting to say the least

yep

[noisecode]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'd really like to see more firsthand details on this issue. Perhaps soon, though.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Indeed, that's the only thing any of us can do at this point.

One would think that most of the story is penned and almost all of the voice acting done.  One would think.

Most likely they are still implementing features.   This is just a guess, but I reckon most companies allow 3 months for quality assurance?


From what I have seen / heard Tali and Legion were both recruitable much earlier in Mass Effect 2 (the earlier version of the final game)

From this we can conclude that the development team has a good idea of how the squad mechanics are going to work, they are just finalizing it at this stage.

[shepskisaac]

KainrycKarr wrote...
He also confirmed Tali as one of said "permanent squad mates" in that same frame.

What are you gettin' at, Casey?

TBH it's getting a bit tiring. They say something that's sure to cause lots of speculation just to not reveal anything else because "that would be spoilers" ugh. I'm sure they could say sth more about teh part mechanics without spoiling any story.

noisecode wrote...
This is just a guess, but I reckon most companies allow 3 months for quality assurance.

Yup, at least 3 months. Means they've got like maybe 4-5 months of actual developement left. No way stuff like squad mechanics ain't finalized at this stage.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 24 juin 2011 - 03:31 .

[VegasVance]

Given the overlap of possible squad mates who have similar skills. I'm for this, gives the game some more depth.

[noisecode]

VegasVance wrote...

Given the overlap of possible squad mates who have similar skills. I'm for this, gives the game some more depth.

Can you Elaborate?   How does it give the game "More Depth"

[Fiery Phoenix]

noisecode wrote...

(...)

From what I have seen / heard Tali and Legion were both recruitable much earlier in Mass Effect 2 (the earlier version of the final game)

From this we can conclude that the development team has a good idea of how the squad mechanics are going to work, they are just finalizing it at this stage.

Yeah, that's right. Apparently both Tali and Legion were very early squadmates, in a "primitive" version of ME2. You were supposed to play as Legion during the prologue in order to recover Shepard's body or something, and Tali was recruitable as early as Freedom's Progress. So yes, no reason the same won't or isn't happening with ME3. You're right that the dialogue and scripts are most likely done by this point, so they're probably just doing the voice acting and finalizing right now.

[ReallyRue]

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

That certainly makes sense, especially if Shepard can support a side in the quarian/geth conflict. I'll bet there's:

-support quarians option
-support geth option
-peace option (which would be presumably harder to get)

I can't see Tali sticking around if Shep supported the geth, when simply siding with Legion removed her loyalty status in ME2.

[VegasVance]

noisecode wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Given the overlap of possible squad mates who have similar skills. I'm for this, gives the game some more depth.

Can you Elaborate?   How does it give the game "More Depth"

An intergalatic war is trucking right up into the Milky Way, I don't want certain squadies to be sitting on my ship with a thumb in their bum even though they could be rallying their forces.  Besides the writers will write only so much script for a voice actor, and I'd rather have a more condensed but satifing conversation with Garrus instead of him being there of the duration and only talking to me about "calibrations".

[RAF1940]

ReallyRue wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

That certainly makes sense, especially if Shepard can support a side in the quarian/geth conflict. I'll bet there's:

-support quarians option
-support geth option
-peace option (which would be presumably harder to get)

I can't see Tali sticking around if Shep supported the geth, when simply siding with Legion removed her loyalty status in ME2.

Yeah, but what about Garrus?

Or Legion? Why should they be temporary?

[jbblue05]

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

[S.A.K]

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

Well in ME2 almost no one was related to the main plot and in ME1 only Tali and Liara was tied to the post. Do you consider others as forced on you?

[ReallyRue]

RAF1940 wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

That certainly makes sense, especially if Shepard can support a side in the quarian/geth conflict. I'll bet there's:

-support quarians option
-support geth option
-peace option (which would be presumably harder to get)

I can't see Tali sticking around if Shep supported the geth, when simply siding with Legion removed her loyalty status in ME2.

Yeah, but what about Garrus?

Or Legion? Why should they be temporary?

I could see Legion being temporary if Shep sided with the geth in the above scenario. Garrus, I have no idea. Perhaps they would create some family-related situation for him. Like Shepard can save a) Garrus' family and others/ people elsewhere. It's all just speculation right now. We don't know enough about their roles in ME3 to make proper guesses.

[KainrycKarr]

RAF1940 wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I think, at least in Tali's case, that he means that while she will join your party, she can/might leave if you do something that goes against her/her people's interests.

This would make both of his tweets( the confirming her perma-status, and the one saying otherwise) accurate.

This would also likely apply to other squadmates.

That certainly makes sense, especially if Shepard can support a side in the quarian/geth conflict. I'll bet there's:

-support quarians option
-support geth option
-peace option (which would be presumably harder to get)

I can't see Tali sticking around if Shep supported the geth, when simply siding with Legion removed her loyalty status in ME2.

Yeah, but what about Garrus?

Or Legion? Why should they be temporary?

I don't think Garrus is temporary. I think he's in the same pond as Tali...go against his and/or his people's interests, he might leave.

Legion...my best guess is he's not an LI, and all of the confirmed squadmates have been LI's thus far(minus Vega)

But remember they did say that not all LI's will necessarily be squadmembers.

[ladyvader]

cakeeaternic wrote...

i can see the positives of non permanent squadmates for story reasons. What i dont like is that the vs,liara and vegas may be permanent ones. I dont know these characters well enough to want or care about them being permanent squad members. As im on the ps3 i was never able to play me1, this is also true for a lot of players so therefore have not been able to get to know any of these characters that may be perma squaddies.what im trying to say is im not going to care about them as much as the others,so the fact that the others may be limited frustrates me. I understand the need for realism in a game but i also think to enjoy a game you should be able to play it the way you want to. I think to make everyone happy they should of taken 1or 2 squadmates from both me1 and me2 and made them perma squadmates.That way you would of built up some kind of relationship with at least one of the permanent squadmembers. hey they may even do that but i thought id put my 2pennys in anyways.

Missing out on the first game is a huge problem in my view. 

Two of the squad from ME2 where in your squad in ME.  Tali and Garrus.  The rest had cameos or in Liara's case their own DLC.  Catering to those that haven't played ME isn't fair to the majority of us that have played it.  Mass Effect was set up as a trilogy from the very beginning, cutting 1/3 for PS3 players was just a money move on EAs part.  They knew PS3 players where never getting the first game with Microsoft owning the publishing rights to it.  Genesis didn't do any of the characters justice, Liara especially, and it didn't cover 85% content in the game, only four major decissions and one personal one.  Who is your love interest?  Who dies on Virmire?  Save Rachni Queen or not same with Wrex along with the Council.  No mention at all of what happened to Zhu's Hope on Feros.  That might not have any afffect on ME3, but still a major mission in ME. 

For me, all the ME squaddies should be permanent.  Along with Vega.  For some reason, I don't see Wrex as a squad mate at all.  Do some missions with, but not  squadmate.  He seems to be part of the mission on salarian homeworld while also working with Mordin as well.   I can see the ME2 new squadddies being the temp ones.   But then that is just my view. 

I'm just going to go with the flow of how the writers are writing the story.  Tali seems possible with the Geth/Quarian conflict of her leaving and coming back or leaving for good.  We don't know.  One play through maybe gone for good and another never leaves.  That would make it much more fun for those that have several Shepards.