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[KainrycKarr]

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

If the VS is forced on me, then my only response is to, well, deal with it.

[ladyvader]

S.A.K wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

Well in ME2 almost no one was related to the main plot and in ME1 only Tali and Liara was tied to the post. Do you consider others as forced on you?

I consider Miranda and Jacob forced on me.  The Illusive Man said I could walk away when ever I wanted, but we were never given that option.  I would have walked and kicked both Miranda and Jacob off the Normandy.  Zaeed too, but you don't have to recruit him.

[Amyra]

No one wants to be forced any squad member they didn't like, and ME always handled that pretty good.
Changing the mechanics of squadmates in the last game seems out of place. If they couldn't handle all variables available, then they shouldn't have given us so many options.

Its been said before, as long as this applies to everyone, then it's ok, I personally don't want Liara forced on me, it's gonna be awkward and weird, like LotSB.

[KainrycKarr]

Amyra wrote...

No one wants to be forced any squad member they didn't like, and ME always handled that pretty good.
Changing the mechanics of squadmates in the last game seems out of place. If they couldn't handle all variables available, then they shouldn't have given us so many options.

Its been said before, as long as this applies to everyone, then it's ok, I personally don't want Liara forced on me, it's gonna be awkward and weird, like LotSB.

Now that's really jumping to conclusions. We have NO IDEA what CHud means by this tweet.

[Asari_Party]

I just hope Garrus and Tali are not forced down our throats - again, like in ME2.

[KainrycKarr]

Roxy12 wrote...

I just hope Garrus and Tali are not forced down our throats - again, like in ME2.

<_<

[jbblue05]

S.A.K wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

Well in ME2 almost no one was related to the main plot and in ME1 only Tali and Liara was tied to the post. Do you consider others as forced on you?

That's why everybody was killable and 7 of your squaddies were optional to recruit.

I don't want Bioware assuming just because Tali and Garrus survived the SM that we are best buds and I want them on my squad

[Amyra]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Amyra wrote...

No one wants to be forced any squad member they didn't like, and ME always handled that pretty good.
Changing the mechanics of squadmates in the last game seems out of place. If they couldn't handle all variables available, then they shouldn't have given us so many options.

Its been said before, as long as this applies to everyone, then it's ok, I personally don't want Liara forced on me, it's gonna be awkward and weird, like LotSB.

Now that's really jumping to conclusions. We have NO IDEA what CHud means by this tweet.

That's true.
All of this just made me thought that the game it's probably going to be more linear than the previous ones.
You may be able to choose which missions to do first and such, but everything within the mission may be a little more controlled. (if squad members are bound to certain areas of the game)

It's just speculation. Like everything else at this point

Modifié par Amyra, 24 juin 2011 - 04:12 .

[jbblue05]

KainrycKarr wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

If the VS is forced on me, then my only response is to, well, deal with it.

The VS and Liara are suppose to have plot armor up to ME3 for a reason. I'm guessing becuase they have strong ties to the main plot.

[DanteEnkoro]

The part that really doesn't sound pleasant is the multiple life/death choices. As long as they don't put two well-liked characters in the same spot it would be alright. But if I have to choose between, say, Ashley or Garrus, that's not going to be cool.

Recruitment is probably not going to be as bad as we think. The final act will have to wrap up everyone's stories (that's still alive anyway). So we can probably assume everyone will be there in the end. The question is how do you get them. It will probably either be an ME2 recruitment based on multiple fronts. You have to finish a planet/species campaign before the chars associated with that arc become available. Or, the other option is the squad members decide when they come and go from the Normandy leaving Shepard with a smaller squad at any one time, which they said was going to happen anyway.

[Melra]

Supposedly yes, but that doesn't mean they should take anything away from the other characters, that large portion( not majority, -large portion-) of the people prefer. Their plot role, might as well be played out outside the squad, if it was so important.

[dreamextractor]

Damn it, I Just want Garrus on my team. I brought him everywhere with me in ME1 & 2, don't really want that to change in 3 by having to replace his slot with James/Kaidan/Liara. I am happy that Kaidan and Liara returning, but I don't want them forced on me as my only second slot.

[S.A.K]

ladyvader wrote...
Missing out on the first game is a huge problem in my view. 

I agree, PS3 players have a huge disadvantage. I myself played ME2 before ME1. I couldn't undestand why Tali and Garrus were fan favorites. When I played ME1 I was like "Oh thats why!"
I can see what kind of role Tali will play in ME3, but Garrus is hard to imagine. He was never important for the main plot. But I do like him verymuch and like to have him permanent as possible along with Tali and VS.

[Alamar2078]

Honestly I expected [before E3] that there would be next to no permanent squadmates and many squadmates would be ACT / mission based.

I'm OK [for example] if I send Tali to help organize the Quarians, Send away Liara to help gather intel [assuming the SB networks are intact], Grunt to help Wrex solidify his hold on the Krogan, Send away Samara [ok she's cameo fodder at best] to convince the Asari that I'm not crazy, etc...

Modifié par Alamar2078, 24 juin 2011 - 05:07 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

ladyvader wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

Well in ME2 almost no one was related to the main plot and in ME1 only Tali and Liara was tied to the post. Do you consider others as forced on you?

I consider Miranda and Jacob forced on me.  The Illusive Man said I could walk away when ever I wanted, but we were never given that option.  I would have walked and kicked both Miranda and Jacob off the Normandy.  Zaeed too, but you don't have to recruit him.

I forgot about that I was too busy fuming over the fact I'm TIMs robot and he's my boss. But yeah I was forced to have Miranda as my XO choked down my contempt on that one, Jacob was Ok but still Cerberus but between the two he was more trustworthy, all my human crew are potential spies, Kelly keeps Miranda appraised of shep's where abouts, EDI was forced I told them to take her out, Jack really was forced I wanted to leave her to rot crazy and arguing when a ship is blowing up = must leave you behind really forced crewmen are part of the deal everyone knows about by now and we all just deal with it.

EDIt: I don't feel Garrus and Tali are forced because I like their company.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 24 juin 2011 - 05:19 .

[AVPen]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

About two weeks ago, Christina tweeted that ME3's squad mechanics will NOT work the same way as they did in ME1 and ME2. Since then, I've come to the conclusion that, in ME3, the probability of two random players having the exact same squad composition is easily less than 0.5. Casey's comment only reinforces this notion.

In other words, we will most likely be able to choose our squadmates--depending on our previous decisions and how the story in ME3 plays out. There won't be a fixed team that you have to recruit and get along with.

Really, REALLY hope this is the case.

Ditto here as well.... being able to choose WHO could be a part of your final squad (let's say 8-9 permanent members) would be the most ideal solution.

Not only does having mostly non-permanent squadmates sound like a really depressing setup for ME3, but from a gameplay perspective, it completely takes away from one of the unique elements that ME as a series has always had - deciding who is or isn't in your squad for any given mission at any time (with the obvious exception being the loyalty missions, but those were entirely optional and you could still decided the 3rd squadmate on the mission). Furthermore, having non-permanent or temporary squadmates would seem to go against the notion that the story would focus on "deeper relationships"... after all, how can you have a deeper relationship with your squad throughout the game if most of them are only present for a single mission and then leave you?

I also echo others' sentiments that if the only "permanent" squadmembers that BW gives us in ME3 are:
-  the VS (whom frankly I never formed any attachment to in ME1 and because I never romanced them, I never did get an apology from them for accusing me of being a no-good backstabbing traitor on Horizon in ME2) <_<
- Liara (finally started to warm up to her after LotSB, but that was nearing the end of ME2 and she's still not on a level with my Shepard as the others in my previous squad at this point) 
- James Vega (a no-name Alliance solider who, from what I've read about so far, makes me think of Raiden from MGS2 for some bizarre reason...) 
... then I'm gonna have one pissed-off Shepard throughout ME3. 

Modifié par AVPen, 24 juin 2011 - 05:26 .

[Trakarg]

DoNotIngest wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I'm gonna be pissed if the only people I can use consistently are Liara, VS, and the new guys.

[Vilio1]

Trakarg wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I'm gonna be pissed if the only people I can use consistently are Liara, VS, and the new guys.

Deal with it?

I wanted Ashley/Kaidan and Liara in ME2 but the only people I could use were Tali, Garrus and the new guys.

[KainrycKarr]

Vilio1 wrote...

Trakarg wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

I'm gonna be pissed if the only people I can use consistently are Liara, VS, and the new guys.

Deal with it?

I wanted Ashley/Kaidan and Liara in ME2 but the only people I could use were Tali, Garrus and the new guys.

There was a good reason for that; So that the VS and Liara are guaranteed to be in ME3. Sorry, but it doesn't apply here. All LI's should be present for the endgame.

This is the finale, EVERYONE should be present, ME2 was only the middle of the trilogy.

We shouldn't lose out on Garrus.Tali in the FINAL PART OF THE STORY just because you're feeling spiteful that Bioware chose for the VS and Liara to have plot armor(which Garrus and Tali never got, I'll remind you)

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 24 juin 2011 - 05:55 .

[S.A.K]

jbblue05 wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

I really hope perma squaddies that have no ties to the main plot like Tali or Garrus aren't forced on you.

If the VS is forced on me, then my only response is to, well, deal with it.

The VS and Liara are suppose to have plot armor up to ME3 for a reason. I'm guessing becuase they have strong ties to the main plot.

Liara is unkillable and with good reason. She is new shadow broker. For VS I don't see any plot relevenace yet. But things can change in ME3. Tali got some relevance to the geth issue and they can improve on that path. Garrus I dunno but they might do something and same goes for everyone else. Hell, if they wanted they might even give Jacob plot relevance in ME3 well just have to wait for more info. Anything can happen.

[S.A.K]

DanteEnkoro wrote...

The part that really doesn't sound pleasant is the multiple life/death choices. As long as they don't put two well-liked characters in the same spot it would be alright. But if I have to choose between, say, Ashley or Garrus, that's not going to be cool.

OMG I hope that don't happen. If its Tali and Garrus:unsure:
I really can't watch Tali dying. but...but...Garrus is my bro:blink:

[ladyvader]

S.A.K wrote...

DanteEnkoro wrote...

The part that really doesn't sound pleasant is the multiple life/death choices. As long as they don't put two well-liked characters in the same spot it would be alright. But if I have to choose between, say, Ashley or Garrus, that's not going to be cool.

OMG I hope that don't happen. If its Tali and Garrus:unsure:
I really can't watch Tali dying. but...but...Garrus is my bro:blink:

I don't see that, but I can see Tali or Legion.   If I had to choose between Ash or Garrus, I would pick Garrus unless in the one game where Shep stayed faithful then he would pick Ash.  That would be a hard choice. 

[S.A.K]

ladyvader wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

DanteEnkoro wrote...

The part that really doesn't sound pleasant is the multiple life/death choices. As long as they don't put two well-liked characters in the same spot it would be alright. But if I have to choose between, say, Ashley or Garrus, that's not going to be cool.

OMG I hope that don't happen. If its Tali and Garrus:unsure:
I really can't watch Tali dying. but...but...Garrus is my bro:blink:

I don't see that, but I can see Tali or Legion.   If I had to choose between Ash or Garrus, I would pick Garrus unless in the one game where Shep stayed faithful then he would pick Ash.  That would be a hard choice. 

Its just an example and I am glad its unlikely because those two are my favorite in ANY game. If its Tali and Legion its good bye Legion. But thats just my opinion.

[Bocks]

Ugh, you all misinterpreted his words.