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What's the motive for the Reapers' actions?

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:13

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I've been wondering this for a while, as know one knows exactly why the Reapers destroy galactic civilization every 50,000 years. I'm hoping the Reapers are not just the typical "evil race hell-bent on destroying us all" thing. That would just annoy me, and I'd start to question the creativity (and possibly intelligence) if Bioware's writers.

Like I said, I want the Reapers to have somehing other than just "we're in ur galaxy, destroying ur civilation."

I like interesting villians, like Saren, who I think isn't a villian, nor evil. I think he's a hero, in a sense.

I have three theories:

1) Reapers are in danger

The Reapers are being threatened by another force, and they think the only way they can protect themselves is to make more of themselves to fight. So they are not typically evil, they are just trying to protect themselves, just going about it the wrong way. In a sense, they are "desperate dudes."

2) Reapers are trying to save the galaxy and/or universe

Identical to my first theory, but instead of just saving themselves, they are trying to save everyone else. Sure, they are destroying races in this galaxy, but what about other galaxies? Maybe that's who they are trying to save as well. This would make them heroes in a sense. But what they are doing to this galaxy is wrong.

3) Reaper reproduction

It's quite possible it's just how the Reapers reproduce, to keep their race alive. It's just what they do. We just don't like it.

That's what I think. What does anyone else think? Besides "they do it for the lulz".

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:21

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i dont think the reapers dont need to reproduce they just want to maintain thier numbers as they are bound to lose a few during a war with an advanced speices

thats possible because there have been alot of things about them reaping to stop people from abusing dark energy and causes a rift in time

and the 1st one i certainly hope not otherwise we are all srewed imagine youve just defeated the reapers then* humm think of a name humm * The Kra comes and you just walk up to harbinger and kick him the face and start ranting at him and then you just get evaporised by a monster cannon

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:24

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Hunger.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:25

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They were pretty much inspired by the Shivans from FreeSpace, so I'll go with the maintain the balance theory (with reproduction as a bonus).

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:34

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I am the Harbinger of your perfection wrote...

i dont think the reapers dont need to reproduce they just want to maintain thier numbers as they are bound to lose a few during a war with an advanced speices

thats possible because there have been alot of things about them reaping to stop people from abusing dark energy and causes a rift in time

and the 1st one i certainly hope not otherwise we are all srewed imagine youve just defeated the reapers then* humm think of a name humm * The Kra comes and you just walk up to harbinger and kick him the face and start ranting at him and then you just get evaporised by a monster cannon


I think the first could set up some more games in the ME universe, and give it an interesting twist.

What if, not all of the Reapers are destroyed in ME3, some or even just one runs off into dark space.?

Maybe a few hundred years after ME3, there's new races like the raloi and yahg, and the galaxy is fully recovered from the failed Reaper invasion. Also, new tech allows people to travel through dark space, and possibly into new galaxiesA new threat appears. It's the one that the Reapers were trying to stop. The character you're plsying as is trying to find a way to stop them, and happens to come across a Reaper, and the Reaper explains everything to the player.

Maybe the player and the Reaper team up? That would be interesting.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:44

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I am the Harbinger of your perfection wrote...

i dont think the reapers dont need to reproduce they just want to maintain thier numbers as they are bound to lose a few during a war with an advanced speices

thats possible because there have been alot of things about them reaping to stop people from abusing dark energy and causes a rift in time

and the 1st one i certainly hope not otherwise we are all srewed imagine youve just defeated the reapers then* humm think of a name humm * The Kra comes and you just walk up to harbinger and kick him the face and start ranting at him and then you just get evaporised by a monster cannon


I think the first could set up some more games in the ME universe, and give it an interesting twist.

What if, not all of the Reapers are destroyed in ME3, some or even just one runs off into dark space.?

Maybe a few hundred years after ME3, there's new races like the raloi and yahg, and the galaxy is fully recovered from the failed Reaper invasion. Also, new tech allows people to travel through dark space, and possibly into new galaxiesA new threat appears. It's the one that the Reapers were trying to stop. The character you're plsying as is trying to find a way to stop them, and happens to come across a Reaper, and the Reaper explains everything to the player.

Maybe the player and the Reaper team up? That would be interesting.



i dont think the humans and co can team up with the reapers there would be to much mistrust between them i want mass effect to expand into other galaxies and face a new threat but i dont want the reapers to just go they are made out to be to high and mighty to be defeated by us i wouldn't mid the protheans returning but thats pushing the boat out with a massive hole in it

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:50

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It's not reproduction, its evolution, whether technological or biological.

Reapers know they are not at the pinnacle of evolution but as machines, they lack the randomness and creativity to evolve further. So they give organic life their technology and see what they can do with it. When a race has created interesting advancements or variations on that technology, the Reapers arrive and make it their own. If a race has interesting biological evolutions as well, they will add it to their society.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:50

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I am the Harbinger of your perfection wrote...

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i dont think the humans and co can team up with the reapers there would be to much mistrust between them i want mass effect to expand into other galaxies and face a new threat but i dont want the reapers to just go they are made out to be to high and mighty to be defeated by us i wouldn't mid the protheans returning but thats pushing the boat out with a massive hole in it


I think it's quite possible that they would work together. It's posible that the Reapers have the tech that's capable of fighting off the new threat.

But I also think that a new threat should not be anything similar to the reapers, as in "wiping out the galaxy" kind of thing, I wish we could fight something like an intergalactic empire of sorts. Not necessarily evil, but it's a nation that is trying to expand on to this galaxy.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 06:53

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I am the Harbinger of your perfection wrote...

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i dont think the humans and co can team up with the reapers there would be to much mistrust between them i want mass effect to expand into other galaxies and face a new threat but i dont want the reapers to just go they are made out to be to high and mighty to be defeated by us i wouldn't mid the protheans returning but thats pushing the boat out with a massive hole in it


When faced with possible destruction, I think it's quite possible to work together with an old enemy. Especially if that enemy has the tech that could save everyone.


Also, I would like a new threat to not be trying to destroy everyone or something lame like that. I would like to see in a new Me game a threat that is another nation trying to invade/take over the galaxy.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:00

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still i wouldn't like to work with them whats to say that they just wouldnt indoctrinate us and then just wipe us all out
by leading us into a falsly to believe there is a greater threat by making up a fake race then stab us in the back
also the race may be like us who has been hunting reapers and each galaxy has its own colony to "reap" and may not be a threat to us at all but be a potential ally

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:01

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

It's not reproduction, its evolution, whether technological or biological.

Reapers know they are not at the pinnacle of evolution but as machines, they lack the randomness and creativity to evolve further. So they give organic life their technology and see what they can do with it. When a race has created interesting advancements or variations on that technology, the Reapers arrive and make it their own. If a race has interesting biological evolutions as well, they will add it to their society.


So, in a way, they make themselves the pinnacle of evolution, because they never allow any race to surpass them.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:05

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For the lulz, it gets pretty boring sitting 50.000 years in dark space watching the same old vids over and over and over, this time however they will accidently get a lot of Justin Bieber music videos into their system so even if we lose they'll eventually explode over the next couple of years, perhaps randomly starting to fly into suns to make the bad voices go away.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:06

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

It's not reproduction, its evolution, whether technological or biological.

Reapers know they are not at the pinnacle of evolution but as machines, they lack the randomness and creativity to evolve further. So they give organic life their technology and see what they can do with it. When a race has created interesting advancements or variations on that technology, the Reapers arrive and make it their own. If a race has interesting biological evolutions as well, they will add it to their society.


Well that's interesting. So it kind of goes with my first and second theories.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:07

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They are living spaceships that appear every 50,000 years to wipe out the entire universe.
Their motivation? They are the antagonists of a video game.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:08

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littlezack wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

It's not reproduction, its evolution, whether technological or biological.

Reapers know they are not at the pinnacle of evolution but as machines, they lack the randomness and creativity to evolve further. So they give organic life their technology and see what they can do with it. When a race has created interesting advancements or variations on that technology, the Reapers arrive and make it their own. If a race has interesting biological evolutions as well, they will add it to their society.


So, in a way, they make themselves the pinnacle of evolution, because they never allow any race to surpass them.


They are the pinnacle in power certainly. But the Reapers let these races get pretty advanced. The Protheans seemed pretty powerful. If it wasn't for the sneak attacks, who knows what races could actually stand up to the Reapers. Some 37 million years ago, at least one race had the power to kill Reapers.

Think of it like the Borg in Star Trek: "We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own". The Borg were always seeking perfection by assimilating other races. Now what would happen if the Borg (or Reapers) actually succeeded in assimilating the entire galaxy but did not feel as of yet that they were perfect?

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:12

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Well that's interesting. So it kind of goes with my first and second theories.


Actually, I think of it as pretty close to your 3rd theory. :D

We evolve through reproduction. Random gene mutations that provide a reproductive advantage get passed on and biologically evolve the species to better thrive in a particular environment. New generations constantly tinker with societial structures and institutions to try to perfect them. The Reapers cannot advance this way: its pretty much limited to mortal organic creatures.

So they use us to do it for them.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:22

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Well that's interesting. So it kind of goes with my first and second theories.


Actually, I think of it as pretty close to your 3rd theory. :D

We evolve through reproduction. Random gene mutations that provide a reproductive advantage get passed on and biologically evolve the species to better thrive in a particular environment. New generations constantly tinker with societial structures and institutions to try to perfect them. The Reapers cannot advance this way: its pretty much limited to mortal organic creatures.

So they use us to do it for them.


Really? I thought that by making themselves the pinnacles of evolution they would also be making themselves stronger. And by makthemselves themselves stronger, they could fight off a bigger threat.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:26

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Really? I thought that by making themselves the pinnacles of evolution they would also be making themselves stronger. And by makthemselves themselves stronger, they could fight off a bigger threat.


Ah, I see where you were going with that now. That's certainly possible, absolutely.

I have a Borg metaphor stuck in my head and their motivations are internal and philosophical. However, there could be an external pressure motivating the Reapers, certainly. I would assume it would be the beings of light or some such. 

I'm *guessing* its an internal motivation but I really don't have any evidence.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:41

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Really? I thought that by making themselves the pinnacles of evolution they would also be making themselves stronger. And by makthemselves themselves stronger, they could fight off a bigger threat.


Ah, I see where you were going with that now. That's certainly possible, absolutely.

I have a Borg metaphor stuck in my head and their motivations are internal and philosophical. However, there could be an external pressure motivating the Reapers, certainly. I would assume it would be the beings of light or some such. 

I'm *guessing* its an internal motivation but I really don't have any evidence.


i think with some the Bible references, the "beings of light" just might be very iportant in ME3.

I do wonder about an internal motivation as well.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 07:55

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I'm willing to bet it's an internal motivation. Reproduction? Evolution? Either way, the fact that the Reapers were constructing that 'human' Reaper before doing away with the organics points to the cycle being imperative to their survival.

Though I'd hate to have those 'beings of light' pop out and fix things, to be honest.

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Posté 24 juin 2011 - 08:28

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Reapers resemble the Berserkers somewhat, their from an older scifi series of books. Created to destroy the makers enemies but the makers goofed and their creation didn't stop with the enemy.
Quite possibly, the Reapers could have started the same way and after a few million years, decided to pass the time quicker by hibernating. Letting sentience bloom in the galaxy again before squishing them.
Just a thought.
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