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[Hathur]

Sanunes wrote...

zeoduos wrote...

Zaeed is free is he not?

Zaeed is free if you bought the game new and registered the Cerberus Network, its part of EA's trying to make people want to buy the game new instead of used.

Indeed, god forbid Bioware & EA get some money for all the hard work they poured into making their game. EA & Bioware don't get so much as 1 penny when someone buys Mass Effect 2 used, it all goes straight to the retailer instead... hence less money for Bioware/EA to make more games with bigger budgets.

I can't remember which developer said it... but basically he equated used game sales as being more harmful than piracy (someone who pirates a game would never have bought the game anyway, so it's technically not even a lost sale... but someome who pays 40 dollars for a used copy of ME2 is still someone who likely would have bought the game if all he could buy was the new version for $50-60 but only bought the used copy since it was cheaper ... thereby, the used copy of the game is a 100% loss in sale).

Modifié par Hathur, 24 juin 2011 - 10:44 .

[the_one_54321]

Hathur wrote...

Sanunes wrote...

zeoduos wrote...
Zaeed is free is he not?

Zaeed is free if you bought the game new and registered the Cerberus Network, its part of EA's trying to make people want to buy the game new instead of used.

Indeed, god forbid Bioware & EA get some money for all the hard work they poured into making their game. EA & Bioware don't get so much as 1 penny when someone buys Mass Effect 2 used, it all goes straight to the retailer instead... hence less money for Bioware/EA to make more games with bigger budgets.

I can't remember which developer said it... but basically he equated used game sales as being more harmful than piracy (someone who pirates a game would never have bought the game anyway, so it's technically not even a lost sale... but someome who pays 40 dollars for a used copy of ME2 is still someone who likely would have still bought the game if all he could buy was the used version for $50-60 but only bought the used copy since it was cheaper ... thereby, the used copy of the game is a 100% loss in sale).

Because this is what the topic is about. Really. I wanted to talk about justifying or unjustifying my decsions.

/sarcasm (in case you didn't notice)

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I really don't give a crap if you think my decision is justified or not. I'm not buying the DLC. But I do want to know how that will effect a new game in ME3. That's all there is to it.

[Raiil]

The effects vary. Some are 'canon' and will happen regardless, with the same ending- Arrival and Shadowbroker fall under this. As for the others, it's up in the air at the moment. You will most likely have an ending to each mission made for you.

[the_one_54321]

Valentia X wrote...
The effects vary. Some are 'canon' and will happen regardless, with the same ending- Arrival and Shadowbroker fall under this. As for the others, it's up in the air at the moment. You will most likely have an ending to each mission made for you.

Yeah, someone quoted some enlightening tweets from Casey Hudson on the last page.

[Vengeful Nature]

I don't get it. LotSB is considered by many to be the highlight of ME2, especially plot-wise. It almost excuses the lame-duck central plot of ME2. Almost. Tela Vasir is also a very interesting character, if a little underused. Arrival is so-so, but a must have if your an ME fan looking forward to ME3.

They're the price of a meal at McDonalds, why not buy them? You pay more to get into the cinema and watch the latest Hollywood crapfest! Your not selling your soul or anything, much to the contrary of what some people might say. If your a working person, you probably earn many times the price of the DLCs working for a single day. If you're on 360, you've got even less excuse. All the DLCs have been at least half price at some point in the past.

I'm not trying to convince you, mind. It's just that I've got a friend who thinks the same thing as you about DLC, and it makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

[Raiil]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
The effects vary. Some are 'canon' and will happen regardless, with the same ending- Arrival and Shadowbroker fall under this. As for the others, it's up in the air at the moment. You will most likely have an ending to each mission made for you.

Yeah, someone quoted some enlightening tweets from Casey Hudson on the last page.

Are you looking for answers for certain other dlc missions, then? Dunno if the devs will pop in and tell us...

[the_one_54321]

Vengeful Nature wrote...
I'm not trying to convince you, mind. It's just that I've got a friend who thinks the same thing as you about DLC, and it makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

You think I haven't heard all of these arguments before? 

Do people really really want to start all of this over again just because I asked a question about the DLC's effect on the new game?

[the_one_54321]

Valentia X wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
The effects vary. Some are 'canon' and will happen regardless, with the same ending- Arrival and Shadowbroker fall under this. As for the others, it's up in the air at the moment. You will most likely have an ending to each mission made for you.

Yeah, someone quoted some enlightening tweets from Casey Hudson on the last page.

Are you looking for answers for certain other dlc missions, then? Dunno if the devs will pop in and tell us...

No, I mean I've gotten some pretty good answers to my question already.

But if a dev felt like stopping in to drop some elightening comments, that would certainly be cool with me.

[ChurchOfZod]

I don't begrudge anyone not buying DLC for whatever their wacky reasons are, but don't expect the rest of us who either don't care about the terrible abuse of our gamers' rights, or the huuuge cost to purchase The Arrival, to care about Bioware treating all ME3 players as if they completed it.

A recap during the trial would work for this, and also to let the new players make ME1/ME2 choices through a prosecution's retelling of Shepard's history.

Modifié par ChurchOfZod, 24 juin 2011 - 10:58 .

[Thrombin]

nhsk wrote...

Well Liara isn't the SB anymore (probably Feron took over), so if you never helped her she probably got the info from somewhere else and took him down alone, problem solved. Zaeed will be around the galaxy, doing his stuff - You might bump into him on a sidemission, so if you had him in ME2 the dialogue may change depending on that. Overlord I think will be skipped, Kasumi, well I don't think Kasumi will play any significant role in ME3.

If she saved the greybox she will be running round with dangerous information that could damage the Alliance. We still don't know what that was so I suspect she could very well have her part to play in ME3.

I reckon it would be easy to rewrite the story without Arrival. All Arrival does is delay the Reapers a few months. If Arrival didn't happen the Reapers would have arrived, taken out the Batarian system anyway and moved up to Earth just a little bit earlier. 

As for the trial, just the fact that Shepard ran around with Cerberus would be enough of an excuse to put him on trial. Why he'd give himself up to stand trial is another matter but I'm sure a plausible mechanism could be found.

Regards

Julian

Modifié par Thrombin, 24 juin 2011 - 11:06 .

[Vengeful Nature]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Vengeful Nature wrote...
I'm not trying to convince you, mind. It's just that I've got a friend who thinks the same thing as you about DLC, and it makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

You think I haven't heard all of these arguments before? 

Do people really really want to start all of this over again just because I asked a question about the DLC's effect on the new game?

No, I expect you hear them regularly. Well, regularly whenever you bring this up, anyhow. No offense, it just strikes me as being stubborn. Of course, I don't know anything about you, so I can't really comment. *shrugs*

So is it just a ethical thing? Like you just don't agree with the business practice or something?

[Mixon]

It's pity that u dont wanna play tham. nothing to say. DLC's are awesome.

[Fives]

Alright, at least give us a reason for not wanting to buy DLC. Instead of the stereotypical 'no'.

[Capeo]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Vengeful Nature wrote...
I'm not trying to convince you, mind. It's just that I've got a friend who thinks the same thing as you about DLC, and it makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

You think I haven't heard all of these arguments before? 

Do people really really want to start all of this over again just because I asked a question about the DLC's effect on the new game?

Honestly, if you don't want to buy the DLC then your questions shouldn't even be answered.  Either support the developer or wait till ME3 comes out.  Simple enough.  It's idiotic that you would even care if you're not going to play the DLC anyway.  It's like asking what happens in a book prior to the one you're reading because you don't want to spend five bucks on the first book.

Modifié par Capeo, 24 juin 2011 - 11:19 .

[KotorEffect3]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Zaeed? Kasumi? Liara becoming the [spoiler here]? Arrival?

I didn't play any of these. I'm never going to play any of these until they start handing them out for free or in a big package deal. So what happens to my game at the start of ME3? One of these was even apparently critical to the beginnig narative of ME3.

Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival are considered to have happened to Shepard even if you didn't play them. Simple as that.

From what I recall the only one they've said Shepard deals with no matter what is Arrival. I think for LotSB they are having it that Liara did it on her own.

You are still wrong.  LOTSB happened no matter what.

[KotorEffect3]

Capeo wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Vengeful Nature wrote...
I'm not trying to convince you, mind. It's just that I've got a friend who thinks the same thing as you about DLC, and it makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

You think I haven't heard all of these arguments before? 

Do people really really want to start all of this over again just because I asked a question about the DLC's effect on the new game?

Honestly, if you don't want to buy the DLC then your questions shouldn't even be answered.  Either support the developer or wait till ME3 comes out.  Simple enough.  It's idiotic that you would even care if you're not going to play the DLC anyway.  It's like asking what happens in a book prior to the one you're reading because you don't want to spend five bucks on the first book.

this

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Zaeed? Kasumi? Liara becoming the [spoiler here]? Arrival?

I didn't play any of these. I'm never going to play any of these until they start handing them out for free or in a big package deal. So what happens to my game at the start of ME3? One of these was even apparently critical to the beginnig narative of ME3.

Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival are considered to have happened to Shepard even if you didn't play them. Simple as that.

From what I recall the only one they've said Shepard deals with no matter what is Arrival. I think for LotSB they are having it that Liara did it on her own.

You are still wrong.  LOTSB happened no matter what.

Erm, no I am not, you clearly have a hard time reading a post properly.

As for why I said that, probably because one of the devs commented on the fact LotSB was going to be handled differently (I forgot which one)

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Not everyone can buy DLCs. I don't have any so far yet except for the free stuff that came with the Cerberus Network because I have no way to spend money online.

Anyway, didn't Casey Hudson say at E3 or somewhere that some events will be canon (such as Liara being Shadow Broker or the Alpha Relay being destroyed) but if they didn't play the events then Shepard's participation will not be?

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 24 juin 2011 - 11:37 .

[Homebound]

DLC's r supposed to make games funner, not resell u cut content. Unfortunately im prolly ganna buy the rest of the dlc's at some point just because im a rabid fan. if this was any other game, i woulda just dropped the controller, walked out my home and played basketball.

[the_one_54321]

Vengeful Nature wrote...
So is it just a ethical thing? Like you just don't agree with the business practice or something?

Yes.

MassAccelerator wrote...
Alright, at least give us a reason for not wanting to buy DLC. Instead of the stereotypical 'no'.

No.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Capeo wrote...
Honestly, if you don't want to buy the DLC then your questions shouldn't even be answered.  Either support the developer or wait till ME3 comes out.  Simple enough.  It's idiotic that you would even care if you're not going to play the DLC anyway.  It's like asking what happens in a book prior to the one you're reading because you don't want to spend five bucks on the first book.

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What a complete BS argument. You are perhaps not aware that screening products before buying them is a practice that has existed as long as products have been for sale? 

[wilhelm Screamer]

Zaeed was free, why did you not play that dlc?

[sickserb]

you guys been trolled

his question was answered on the first page, and he keeps saying "all I want is my question answered" as his argument on page 4

WEAK TROLL MATERIAL IS WEAK

[the_one_54321]

sickserb wrote...
you guys been trolled

his question was answered on the first page, and he keeps saying "all I want is my question answered" as his argument on page 4

WEAK TROLL MATERIAL IS WEAK

This is less than ten posts up on this same page:

the_one_54321 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
The effects vary. Some are 'canon' and will happen regardless, with the same ending- Arrival and Shadowbroker fall under this. As for the others, it's up in the air at the moment. You will most likely have an ending to each mission made for you.

Yeah, someone quoted some enlightening tweets from Casey Hudson on the last page.

Are you looking for answers for certain other dlc missions, then? Dunno if the devs will pop in and tell us...

No, I mean I've gotten some pretty good answers to my question already.

But if a dev felt like stopping in to drop some elightening comments, that would certainly be cool with me.

FAIL.

[KotorEffect3]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Zaeed? Kasumi? Liara becoming the [spoiler here]? Arrival?

I didn't play any of these. I'm never going to play any of these until they start handing them out for free or in a big package deal. So what happens to my game at the start of ME3? One of these was even apparently critical to the beginnig narative of ME3.

Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival are considered to have happened to Shepard even if you didn't play them. Simple as that.

From what I recall the only one they've said Shepard deals with no matter what is Arrival. I think for LotSB they are having it that Liara did it on her own.

You are still wrong.  LOTSB happened no matter what.

Erm, no I am not, you clearly have a hard time reading a post properly.

As for why I said that, probably because one of the devs commented on the fact LotSB was going to be handled differently (I forgot which one)

I see you still like to throw out insults and lotsb happened no matter what.