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[JFarr74]

Which of these two guns is the better one?

[PseudoEthnic]

Like being Rambo? Revenant.

Like having a sniper rifle without the scope? Mattock.

[goofyomnivore]

Mattock is bugged under Adrenaline Rush, so it is much better. I find the Rev more enjoyable.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Mattock is a power gamer's dream, but Revenant is easier on the soul.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Mattock is also good AR without Adrenaline Rush

[kstarler]

The Mattock is far more powerful than the Revenant without Adrenaline Rush. With it, it is arguably over powered.

The Revenant is a lot more fun, in my opinion, because it is much more challenging to use effectively.

[JFarr74]

I'll probably use the Mattock and then switch to the Revenant.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

It is your choice. Going to Revenant will be waste of time. Better yet, go for Widow. Mattock+Widow+Geth Plasma Shotgun = WiN

[JFarr74]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

It is your choice. Going to Revenant will be waste of time. Better yet, go for Widow. Mattock+Widow+Geth Plasma Shotgun = WiN

Why will going for the revenant be a waste of time?

[goofyomnivore]

If you're a powergamer it would be. The Mattock destroys the Rev, due to it being bugged during Adrenaline Rush. The Rev is a LMG basically. If you find the idea of raining bullets on enemies enjoyable it is the perfect weapon. If you like precise and efficient weapons, the Mattock/Vindicator+Widow would be optimal.

Modifié par strive, 25 juin 2011 - 10:25 .

[Ryuu814]

Don't think of the Revenant as an Assault Rifle. The way it fire's is more like an LMG.

if you like raining down hell with power (as a film which I can't figure the name out off says.) "shoot like an american" then the Revenant is an ideal choice.
If you want to have precise firing then the Mattock/Vindicator would be the way to go.

[termokanden]

The Mattock is technically better unless you're running out of ammo. That doesn't mean the Revenant isn't an excellent weapon though.

But you should just make a save before the weapon choice and try both.

[mcsupersport]

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is the movie you are thinking of Ryuu814 when Sean Connery is trying to teach you man how to shoot long range.


IF you get used to the Mattlock and then move over too the Rev you may be a bit underwhelmed. The best thing about the Rev is massive fire downrange before having to reload, ie a Light Machine Gun being used like Rambo. This isn't necessarily the "Best" way to play but it can be incredibly fun. If you don't like that style of popping Arush and then charging guns blazing at your enemies spraying flaming ammo, then the Mattock/Widow will be the way to go.

[JFarr74]

So...which one guys?!

[FrozenShadow]

JFarr74 wrote...

I'll probably use the Mattock and then switch to the Revenant.

Don't do that, especially if you play on insanity. I found Revenant completely useless. You can't kill anything with it. It's only good factor is that it has more ammo.

So, I recommend Mattock. (Better if you won't even choose the whole Revenant, Widow and even Claymore are more useful.)

[Locutus_of_BORG]

The Revenant actually kills very fast. Just because the Mattock is faster doesn't make the Revvy slow. If you're actually having real problems with the Revvy, it just means you're a noob. Both guns are easily easily heads and shoulders above the other Assault Rifles in terms of raw power.

With the Mattock, you just hit ARush and spam bullets, w/o any consideration to range, enemy type, nothing. No need for headshots, legshots, everything is just as good. You can use the Mattock how ever you want and it'll get you basically the same results all the time.

OTOH, the Revenant is more rewarding, imo, since you use it differently against different types of enemies: up-close vs. reg. enemies (SMG close), area suppresion vs swarms (husks, varren, etc.) and long-close range run'n'gun vs big boss enemies (YMIRs, Praetorians, Arnold, etc.). Incidentally, mastering the Revenant will reveal that it can actually be more interesting and easier to use than the Mattock in certain situations, albeit a bit less powerful overall.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 26 juin 2011 - 02:37 .

[mcsupersport]

JFarr74 wrote...

So...which one guys?!

LOL, as I posted and others as well that will only depend on what you want from your guns......

If you want to play Rambo style of soldier with Hardened ARush then take the Revenant.
If you want to play a little more surgical soldier with an overpowered AR used with Heightened ARush then take Widow and use the Mattock.

Decide how you want to play your soldier and choose....no one can tell you what you will enjoy the most.....they can only make suggestions and give info......which we have done.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

JFarr74 wrote...

So...which one guys?!

Revenant is a waste of time because when you have Mattock+Widow+Geth Plasma Shotgun, practically you're one man army on insanity. If you use Energy Drain along with those guns, nothing stands in your way.  GPS for shields& barriers, widow against armored targets and Mattock to finish off the rest. If you want ot use Mattock which is not bugged Adrenaline Rush, select one with 70% time dilation. As would any Reaper say, fighting is irrelevant, give up.

Modifié par PnXMarcin1PL, 26 juin 2011 - 08:21 .

[PseudoEthnic]

JFarr74 wrote...

So...which one guys?!

Grow a conscience, and not have us choose for you. This isn't a competition, so you won't lose if you decide to pick one over the other.

[mcsupersport]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

JFarr74 wrote...

So...which one guys?!

Revenant is a waste of time because when you have Mattock+Widow+Geth Plasma Shotgun, practically you're one man army on insanity. If you use Energy Drain along with those guns, nothing stands in your way.  GPS for shields& barriers, widow against armored targets and Mattock to finish off the rest. If you want ot use Mattock which is not bugged Adrenaline Rush, select one with 70% time dilation. As would any Reaper say, fighting is irrelevant, give up.

Just because the Mattock is broken doesn't make the best choice always the Mattock.  If he doesn't happen to like the way it plays with the Widow, then it isn't the best.  I have used both, and even have a modded game that gives the claymore, Rev and widow on a Soldier, and the most used gun is the Rev, cause it is fun.

Also of note, ANY ARush breaks the Mattock, and even the Vanguard's slowdown from charge does a bit the same.  Just choosing the 70% one actually makes it worse because of the extra bonus you get from damage makes you have to use LESS ammo, the only thing in heck that can limit it.

[Kronner]

You can have both. Why don't you try a few missions with each weapon and see for yourself.

[JFarr74]

I'm playing on Hardcore, and LOVE to use Adrenaline Rush. So which gun would be better for that kind of gameplay?

[Locutus_of_BORG]

JFarr74 wrote...

I'm playing on Hardcore, and LOVE to use Adrenaline Rush. So which gun would be better for that kind of gameplay?

Just use both, dammit!

[JFarr74]

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

JFarr74 wrote...

I'm playing on Hardcore, and LOVE to use Adrenaline Rush. So which gun would be better for that kind of gameplay?

Just use both, dammit!

But I need to know which one is better for my style of play so I know whcih weapon to pick when I'm at the Collector Ship.