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Dragon Age Origins is highly overrated, and DAII does many things better.


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ItsTheTruth wrote...

por favor wrote...

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por favor wrote...

hey OP, can you tell me why genlocks are great characters with superb character development?


err genlocks magically vanished from da2. to get them back we have shell out extra bucks


shh, I'm sure OP has something intelligent to say

Well that's a bad question because the OP only makes **** up to defend DA2, and genlocks are from DA:O.

A better question would be: OP, do you think the road at the beginning of the game is beautiful and a good way to start DA2?


because Darkspawn are not important in DAII past the prologue.

The more the series goes away from the Darkspawn (except the talking ones) the better.

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HAHAHAHAHAH
This is Hilarious!!!
continue discussing!

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double post

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@ OP

Did you really find DA2 more fun to play than DA:O?

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So...um... OP.. why don’t you register your copy of DA2..cause I'm sure the Registered users...can't wait...to have...how do...you say...an intelligent conversation with ya. Cause it’s not fair to us or them…that you don’t spend some time with them as well.

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VanDraegon wrote...

That was the weakest comparison to LoTR i have seen yet.


so, army falls back from a battle of the ruins, current ruler undermimes the effort to fight the orc threat, orcs approach major city and attack it, the rightful heir can or will return, a special plot device is the only way the evil can be destroyed, heroes gather allies to stave off the attack on that city.

Is it a 100% Return of the King...no.....but it borrows just enough to make it feel very unoriginal and very generic. Even the Darkspawn is in LOTR's style. How are their Ogres not comparable to LOTR's trolls.

Come on Ostagar screams LOTRs, and The Deep Roads screa Moria.

Bioware simply borrowed way to much from its influence.

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Rokky94 wrote...

@ OP

Did you really find DA2 more fun to play than DA:O?


pretty much the same....did however, enjoy the sequels story much more, but ghot sick of the dungeon recycling program and lack of new areas.

They are both 8.0-8.5 RPGs to me...good, but not great.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 25 juin 2011 - 10:50 .


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Bio-Age wrote...

So...um... OP.. why don’t you register your copy of DA2..cause I'm sure the Registered users...can't wait...to have...how do...you say...an intelligent conversation with ya. Cause it’s not fair to us or them…that you don’t spend some time with them as well.


looks like I already did.

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i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2

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HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


It reminds me of Deus Ex Invisible War really....fans of the original completely trash the game however it does many thing far better than the original (such asits story and characters), and the original is pretty much overrated anyway. But just like DAII, IW was disappointing because while fixing many of the original games weaknesses, exposes new ones that shouldn't be there.

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well it might be my opinion but i certainly wont rate da2 a 8.0, probably closer to 6.5. But i will give you one thing texas the vision they had for da2's story was fresh, but its execution pretty much destroyed it

Modifié par zeypher, 25 juin 2011 - 10:56 .


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HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.

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por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0

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txgoldrush wrote...

However, party members can leave in DAII as well if you clearly closs the red line and not help them. Fenris and Isabela especially. So you can just jerk them around and not expect consquences. And you will either lose Anders or Sebastian regardless.


I didn't say that they don't leave, I was saying that is silly that you can accept to help them and still being a jackass towards them only to end up having respect you, it jus doesn't make sense.

Acxtually Zervan truly changed before DAO even started (except for the love angle)...thats the problem with DAO. The significant event happens before the character joins your party, not when they are in the party. At keast we got to play Leliana's backstory and we see her change in the DLC. Its always the most interesting stuff about the character thats told not shown. Thats the problem with DAO and even older Bioware games past BGII.

An RPG character should be defined in what they do in the game, not who they were before. Thats what makes The Witcher 2 so great.  Look at Ves.


What does this have to do with anything?

DAO on the other hand, has several major characters not participate in the plot. If you take out a DAO character, the story would not change for the most part unless you take out a major NPC like Loghain or Duncan. You can even take out Allistair and Morrigan with little change, all theat changes is that you have less options. Take how Aveline or Varric though, you can't, it wouldn't be the same. Act II already suffers if Isabela is not involved. Take out even some NPCs from TW2, and the story will not work. Its much better for characters to be particpatants in the plot than be mostly on the sideline.


Varric, maybe. But the story would still play out the same with or without Aveline, Isabela or the rest of the companions.

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Bio-Age wrote...

por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0


That was hilarious.
Way to back up your arguments, OP.

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zeypher wrote...

well it might be my opinion but i certainly wont rate da2 a 8.0, probably closer to 6.5. But i will give you one thing texas the vision they had for da2's story was fresh, but its execution pretty much destroyed it


The execution the plot was pretty good, its not flat out amazing and has some significant flaws, but its not terrible and many gamers miss key details and the Cassandra and Varric sections really are overlooked.

The flaws I found in DAII

Their should have been more Varric and Cassandra scenes.

Many of the scenes in the game feel rough and unfinished.

Not enough of the sibling survivor in the game. Hopefully Legacy will fix that.

Act I is too long. Too much exposition. Act III is a little on the short side.

The endgame is fine, except for how they handled Orsino. Not saying he should not be a boos battle regardless of your choice, but they handled the mage side of the finale with him rashly.

Grace's role in second to last mission.

Many cameos and relics from DAO forced in...really Leliana is the only cameo that doesn't seem forced.

The male romances are FLAT OUT TERRIBLE.

Its far from perfect, and it has some aspects I am not happy with, but at least it tries to take risks and from the most part it succeeds. Still Biowares B Team is just not as good as their top team and the writing team still has to grow.

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

Bio-Age wrote...

por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0


That was hilarious.
Way to back up your arguments, OP.


actually that is not me...I didn't post that.

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Lord_Valandil wrote...

Bio-Age wrote...

por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0


That was hilarious.
Way to back up your arguments, OP.


imho i'm not txgoldrush.. he speaks the truth, it's just that too many bash the game... I'm not him.

Modifié par HawkeN7x, 25 juin 2011 - 11:07 .


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txgoldrush wrote...

VanDraegon wrote...

That was the weakest comparison to LoTR i have seen yet.


so, army falls back from a battle of the ruins, current ruler undermimes the effort to fight the orc threat, orcs approach major city and attack it, the rightful heir can or will return, a special plot device is the only way the evil can be destroyed, heroes gather allies to stave off the attack on that city.

Is it a 100% Return of the King...no.....but it borrows just enough to make it feel very unoriginal and very generic. Even the Darkspawn is in LOTR's style. How are their Ogres not comparable to LOTR's trolls.

Come on Ostagar screams LOTRs, and The Deep Roads screa Moria.

Bioware simply borrowed way to much from its influence.


As I have said before, DAO is a fantasy game and comes with the familiarity of fantasy games which most of us have played numerous times, there are elves, dwarves, humans and magic etc. Anything, but a fleeting glance shows that DAO is not a LOTR rip off, but it has similarities as all fantasy games do particularly as the setting is based on medieval Europe, which was the same setting as LOTR which bears similarities to every fantasy game to some extent.

The actual content of DAO bears little relation to LOTR other than broad strokes, what you have managed to is pick a single event and then claimed this is the same as Ostagar etc. Ipso facto DAO is now the same as LOTR whilst completely ignoring the story, lore setting and backstory which bears as much resemblance to one another as a melon does to a pumpkin.

For instance Dwarven cast system, Elves being ensaved by Tevinter, the fractious nature of Thedas the Qunari invasion etc bears little relation in the detail other than there are dwarves, elves and human nations found in both DA and LOTR.

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FJVP wrote...

Of course that they leave, that's what happens in real life. If you are just an a-hole to someone you can't seriously expect them to remain with you. With the frienship/rival system you could call someone a poopy head and they would somehow start to change their mind about their beliefs. How is that logical? The second system is just as flawed as the first one, except that the second one at least rewards you for being an utter bastard.


I think that´s because in DA2 there´s no overarching plot that justifies the party following you. So I can´t believe they just wouldn´t send Hawke to hell. In DA:O there was the Blight, in JE stopping the emperor, in NWN you paid them to follow you... in DA2 there´s nothing

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wow this topic is still going....

DA2 and DA:O are different games, sorry to tell you, which one is better or worse who knows, its personal opinion. Some people don't like the FF series games while others love it, its your opinion.

At this point it seems that they are now effectively "feeding the troll" on propose, just to see what kind of answers you will give. so i think before you turn yourself into a zoo attraction, I would quit while you are ahead.

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txgoldrush wrote...
It reminds me of Deus Ex Invisible War really....fans of the original completely trash the game however it does many thing far better than the original (such asits story and characters), and the original is pretty much overrated anyway. But just like DAII, IW was disappointing because while fixing many of the original games weaknesses, exposes new ones that shouldn't be there.


Oh, yeah. I must agree on that with you. I have too enjoyed Invisible War much more than the first Deus - Ex.
But it is off-topic so ill stop here.

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HawkeN7x wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Bio-Age wrote...

por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0


That was hilarious.
Way to back up your arguments, OP.


imho i'm not txgoldrush.. he speaks the truth, it's just that too many bash the game... I'm not him.


imho make a few more accounts - gets more entertaining that way

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Bio-Age wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Bio-Age wrote...

por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0


That was hilarious.
Way to back up your arguments, OP.


imho i'm not txgoldrush.. he speaks the truth, it's just that too many bash the game... I'm not him.


imho make a few more accounts - gets more entertaining that way


nah bro, this is my only acc.

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HawkeN7x wrote...

Bio-Age wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Bio-Age wrote...

por favor wrote...

HawkeN7x wrote...

i agree with the OP. his posts are fact imho. too many bash DA2


You signed up 5 minutes ago and your first post was on this thread...

Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.


Its txgoldrush version 2.0


That was hilarious.
Way to back up your arguments, OP.


imho i'm not txgoldrush.. he speaks the truth, it's just that too many bash the game... I'm not him.


imho make a few more accounts - gets more entertaining that way


nah bro, this is my only acc.


Not your bro.. bro..now get crackin on makin more accounts - getting bored here.

Modifié par Bio-Age, 25 juin 2011 - 11:14 .