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Can male Shepard get some longer/better hairstyles please?


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Now you can say that the Mass Effect series isn't really realistic, but it TRIES to be as realistic as possible for a sci-fi space opera universe. Long hair and a militairy hero just don't go together.


Lets throw Femshep, Ashley and Miranda out the airlock then for not following realism.  <_<


Jep, every Femshep with longer hair than Ash had in ME1 and ME2 is not following realism. Same goes for Ashley in Mass Effect 3.

I really wonder why BioWare decided to turn realistic Ashley into unrealistic wannabe super-model Ashley in ME3. I'm totally not  supporting the decision of turning Ashley into a fake wannabe super-model, but I won't make a huge deal out of it either.

Also, manly space marines and long hair just don't go together. Manly space marines go with short hair, or no hair at all. That's the MANLY way, if you're a space marine that is.

Look at Warhammer 40k. every single Space Marine in w40k has short hair or no hair (with the exception of the God Emperor of Mankind).
Look at Starcraft, every single Terran Marine has short hair or no hair.
Look at Mass Effect so far, every single Alliance marine we've seen so far has short hair or no hair.

Shepard with long hair would be awkward to say the least. The longest haircut that's acceptable for a manly marine in my opinion, is the haircut of Jimmy Raynor (Starcraft 2).

This, anything longer is simply g...*ahum*... unmanly.


I was at a party today and i said the f word (not the curse word). This little kid looked at me and asked what I'd said then somebody said to him "we don't say that." I felt so bad lol.

On topic, I have a question. Is long hair professional? Shepard isn't Rambo or Chuck: some nut just killing people. Shepard is the Alliance, and indeed humanity's, message to the world, saying that the humans can be taken seriously, that they are equals with the other species. And do you really really take people with long hair seriously? I don't have long hair (impossible for me to, unless an afro counts as long hair, and afros are beyond stupid) but I haven't seen anyone who could really be taken seriously as an intelligent person (something a Spectre would definately need) with long hair. In fact most people I've seen with long hair look like...well, hippies.

Not to say all are; that group includes an uncle who's played the piano around the world and currently resides in Las Vegas playing. He doesn't have it (long hair) anymore but boy did he look stupid.


Like anything else, in real life it's going to depend on the person, how they act and what they do with their hair.  My son-in-law has hair he could sit on.  He wears it in a bun, always dresses well and is articulate, smart, computer savy, funny and a gamer.   People take him seriously.  

My cousin on the other hand, had long hair he left down and a long beard and looked and dressed like a combination of William Lee Golden from the Oak Ridge Boys and one of the Guist brothers on Swamp People.  You would not want to meet him in a dark ally or on a bright sunlit day.

The op was talking about a short pony tail.  I think that would work along with a bun like Ash used to have.   I've seen a few people suggest long flowing hair, which I think BioWare would trun into plastic, but most of them are talking about something shoulder lenghth like Ash and Mirranda.

This is one of the I won't use it, but don't really care options they could add rather easily.


Glad someone actually took me seriously. I see your point; it depends on the person.

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FFXI,
a game from 2004 I might add, has long male hair on some models that
floats upwards when casting magic.

Uh oh. Someone said Final
Fantasy. Now everyone will think the people asking for hairstyles longer
than 1 inch for male Shepard are asking for neon green anime haircuts.


Nah, what everyone is asking for is Sephiroth hair for male Shep. Pretty lame in my opinion.


I believe we were joking. It's pretty lame to say Shepard should have hair 'like' any fictional character, since s/he is a different person than all of them.

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No hes a soldier. If your in military you have short hair its like that now and it will be in the future.


How do you know? Can you see into the future?... Not many people thought don't ask don't tell would be repealed but here we are. Have some vision and quit being so rigid because you're stuck in the past. 

Unless in the future they invent some way so hair does not get in they way when your running or in combat it wil never change.


Military styles do and have changed over the centruies, and unless you have access to Mr. Well's time machine we don't know what the future will be like.  Buns, braids, short on the sides, longer on the back, all would work to keep hair out the eyes.

And again, the problem with this idea is they have let Ash's hair down.  I would like them to have this option for Male/Female Shepard and Ash when they are off duty.  and put their helmet on when they are fighting.

Military style has changed from look however you like to what it is now due to various reasons (Mainly hygene and safety) so chances are they wont change since it's more practical to have short hair in the military and even more so in the future where long hair could intefere with the helmet to torso vacum seal. Also you're only off-duty when you take off the uniform, even on the ship your hair would have to be in a bun

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Shepard is a Spectre and can tell the alliance to shove it on more than one occassion.

I really really fail to see why he has to listen to them regarding hairstyles. -_-*

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Ryzaki wrote...

Shepard is a Spectre and can tell the alliance to shove it on more than one occassion.

I really really fail to see why he has to listen to them regarding hairstyles. -_-*

This isn't a concern of listening to someone it's a safety, hygene, and practicality problem. We're you using the military to show why someone in Shepard's line of work would usually keep their hair short.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Shepard is a Spectre and can tell the alliance to shove it on more than one occassion.

I really really fail to see why he has to listen to them regarding hairstyles. -_-*

I see this on /a/ a lot and they don't seem to understand but I will try again. When you are in extreme conditions and are sweating a lot, your hair traps heat and thus causes you to sweat more which makes the person in question feel less comfortable. In battle, small annoyances here and there are something you do not want. Not only can this hair obstruct vision, it can also be a hazard in itself just by being there. This is why they do not let long hair in the military whatsoever.

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I see this on /a/ a lot and they don't seem to understand but I will try again. When you are in extreme conditions and are sweating a lot, your hair traps heat and thus causes you to sweat more which makes the person in question feel less comfortable. In battle, small annoyances here and there are something you do not want. Not only can this hair obstruct vision, it can also be a hazard in itself just by being there. This is why they do not let long hair in the military whatsoever.


This is a game. People are running around in heels in combat. Some long hair long that's optional  
isn't a gamebreaker. There's space magic and the main character is space jesus for crying out loud! But somehow long hair is what must be kept realistic? :blink: Practicality and realism with hairstyles died in ME2. Heck it died in ME1 with some of FemSheps styles. 
 


Befit wrote...

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Shepard is a Spectre and can tell the alliance to shove it on more than one occassion.

I really really fail to see why he has to listen to them regarding hairstyles. -_-*

This isn't a concern of listening to someone it's a safety, hygene, and practicality problem. We're you using the military to show why someone in Shepard's line of work would usually keep their hair short.

 

Except when has Shepard been without hygiene for along time? 
The Normandy is always with him. Also *usually* thus why I'm asking for an *option* to have long hair not force it on everyone. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 26 juin 2011 - 06:17 .


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Yes, please. At least something beyond the current options of 'skinhead' and 'slightly less extreme skinhead'.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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I see this on /a/ a lot and they don't seem to understand but I will try again. When you are in extreme conditions and are sweating a lot, your hair traps heat and thus causes you to sweat more which makes the person in question feel less comfortable. In battle, small annoyances here and there are something you do not want. Not only can this hair obstruct vision, it can also be a hazard in itself just by being there. This is why they do not let long hair in the military whatsoever.


This is a game. People are running around in heels in combat. Some long hair long that's optional  
in't a gamebreaker.
 

While this is true, the heels aren't as noticable as shoulder length hair. But I suppose this has already been confirmed with Casey's recent tweets:
http://twitter.com/#...825234536013824

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I'd very much like to see some longer hair-styles for Shepard in ME3.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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I see this on /a/ a lot and they don't seem to understand but I will try again. When you are in extreme conditions and are sweating a lot, your hair traps heat and thus causes you to sweat more which makes the person in question feel less comfortable. In battle, small annoyances here and there are something you do not want. Not only can this hair obstruct vision, it can also be a hazard in itself just by being there. This is why they do not let long hair in the military whatsoever.


This is a game. People are running around in heels in combat. Some long hair long that's optional  
isn't a gamebreaker. There's space magic and the main character is space jesus for crying out loud! But somehow long hair is what most be kept realistic? :blink:
 


Befit wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Shepard is a Spectre and can tell the alliance to shove it on more than one occassion.

I really really fail to see why he has to listen to them regarding hairstyles. -_-*

This isn't a concern of listening to someone it's a safety, hygene, and practicality problem. We're you using the military to show why someone in Shepard's line of work would usually keep their hair short.

 

Except when has Shepard been without hygiene for along time? 
The Normandy is always with him. Also *usually* thus why I'm asking for an *option* to have long hair not force it on everyone. 

Just because the Normandy's there now doesn't mean it'll always be there and to assume so would be reckless on Shepard's part. You never know if Shepard gets stuck on some deserted planet without proper water. Look I really don't care if you get long hair or not but you have to realise that it doesn't make much sense for him  to have long hair you simply want it because you believe it looks nice.

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Dionkey wrote...

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I see this on /a/ a lot and they don't seem to understand but I will try again. When you are in extreme conditions and are sweating a lot, your hair traps heat and thus causes you to sweat more which makes the person in question feel less comfortable. In battle, small annoyances here and there are something you do not want. Not only can this hair obstruct vision, it can also be a hazard in itself just by being there. This is why they do not let long hair in the military whatsoever.


This is a game. People are running around in heels in combat. Some long hair long that's optional  
in't a gamebreaker.
 

While this is true, the heels aren't as noticable as shoulder length hair. But I suppose this has already been confirmed with Casey's recent tweets:
http://twitter.com/#...825234536013824


Heels aren't as noticable? :blink: 

That's FemShep though. :( Edit: Oh wait yay! Longer hair for dude Shep. :wizard:

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Someone should make a poll for the devs. to see so that they can see how many supporters this would have ( i say someone because i am to lazy)

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Just because the Normandy's there now doesn't mean it'll always be there and to assume so would be reckless on Shepard's part. You never know if Shepard gets stuck on some deserted planet without proper water. Look I really don't care if you get long hair or not but you have to realise that it doesn't make much sense for him  to have long hair you simply want it because you believe it looks nice.

 

Why on earth would Shepard get stuck on some deserted planet without proper water. Unless the Normandy crashes (or Shep loses communications in which case his hair will be the least of his issues and it can be cut on site if it becomes a problem). If Shepard loses contact with the Normandy for a substantial amount of time Shepard's probably f****. Long hair or no. (Plus...hello shuttle). 

I never claimed that it made much sense. I just kept hearing arguements about it shouldn't be put in because he's a soldier. Which...really went out the window the second Shepard became space jesus and Miranda started running around in heels. 

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I'm in favor of having the option for longer hairstyles for men and women.
I don't particularly care for some of the ones they have now. Know what I do? I ignore them. ;)

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Just because the Normandy's there now doesn't mean it'll always be there and to assume so would be reckless on Shepard's part. You never know if Shepard gets stuck on some deserted planet without proper water. Look I really don't care if you get long hair or not but you have to realise that it doesn't make much sense for him  to have long hair you simply want it because you believe it looks nice.

 

Why on earth would Shepard get stuck on some deserted planet without proper water. Unless the Normandy crashes (or Shep loses communications in which case his hair will be the least of his issues) that shouldn't be an issue. 

I never claimed that it made much sense. I just kept hearing arguements about it shouldn't be put in because he's a soldier. Which...really went out the window the second Shepard became space jesus and Miranda started running around in heels. 

Shepard is constantly going to uninhabited worlds and far reaches of space the possibility that he get stuck somewhere is pretty damn likely. For me if it does make much sense then why do it? It's like me demanding more crew cuts in Dragon age. But to each their own.

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Shepard is constantly going to uninhabited worlds and far reaches of space the possibility that he get stuck somewhere is pretty damn likely. For me if it does make much sense then why do it? It's like me demanding more crew cuts in Dragon age. But to each their own.

 

And if he gets stuck his hair wil be the least of his problems considering most of the uninhabited planets don't have any food or water that he can safely consume. 

Do you understand now? Hair will not be an issue in that case. HE'S SCREWED. 

Long hair or no. It's far more dangerous than earth would be you can't food and drink that's safe just by studying the local wildlife. There won't be books and books on what you can and can't eat. There's a good chance Shep might consume something that would kill him or cause neural degredation (Jacob's LM). 

If Shep's on a uninhabitied planet and doesn't get contact with the Normandy within the amount of time he needs to get water (and this is assuming the water isn't drinkable which is highly likely) he's dead. He won't have to worry about his hair getting in the way. :lol: What do you think happened to all those dead bodies Shep comes across exploring uninhabited worlds? :D 

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If you want long hair, go play something else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a MARINE, not some dimwit straight out of the lower east side. This isn't the 'hood.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Shepard is constantly going to uninhabited worlds and far reaches of space the possibility that he get stuck somewhere is pretty damn likely. For me if it does make much sense then why do it? It's like me demanding more crew cuts in Dragon age. But to each their own.

 

And if he gets stuck his hair wil be the least of his problems considering most of the planets don't have any food or water that he can safely consume. 

Do you understand now? Hair will not be an issue in that case. HE'S SCREWED. 

Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

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Befit wrote...
Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

 

Ah I'm not arguing this. Long hair was confirmed so yay. :wizard:

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

 

If the Normandy can't get to him there's a chance Shep can get himself out and still the whole alien food and water thing still applies. He's still screwed long hair or no. 

Since when did Shepard carry around provisions? Oh wait...he doesn't. Shepard would be dead if he lost contact with the Normandy for a substantial amount of time. 

Alien bugs? If his hair is getting infected with these bugs (one would wonder why he didn't keep his helmet on) what drinking water is Shepard carrying around?  

Only reason Shepard would carry around drinking water is if he expected to be staying on an alien planet for some time.

And yet again hair can be cut. 

You really don't understand how militaries work do you? Do you think soldiers can only go a certain distance from base or else they're screwed? You don't believe that the Kodiak shuttle probably has food and water in case of an emergency? You don't think Shepard was taught survival skills seeing where his missions as an alliance marine would take him? And stop jumping from one extreme to another there are such things as unforseen circumstances, Shepard lands on a planet for a mission, mission takes longer then expected and a magnetic storm rolls in not letting the shuttle take off or the Normandy down for pickup, storm expected to pass in one week, Shepard plans to wait it out. And if you were to cut your hair doesn't that mean it would be better to have always kept your hair short? Like I said before I don't care if they put in long hair what I care about is for people to realise why it would make sense for shepard to have short hair.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Befit wrote...
Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

 

Ah I'm not arguing this. Long hair was confirmed so yay. :wizard:

Wasn't this only for females?

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Steffen wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Befit wrote...
Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

 

Ah I'm not arguing this. Long hair was confirmed so yay. :wizard:

Wasn't this only for females?

And it was an obvious joke if we both are reffering to that tweet...

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Befit wrote...You really don't understand how militaries work do you? Do you think soldiers can only go a certain distance from base or else they're screwed? You don't believe that the Kodiak shuttle probably has food and water in case of an emergency? You don't think Shepard was taught survival skills seeing where his missions as an alliance marine would take him? And stop jumping from one extreme to another there are such things as unforseen circumstances, Shepard lands on a planet for a mission, mission takes longer then expected and a magnetic storm rolls in not letting the shuttle take off or the Normandy down for pickup, storm expected to pass in one week, Shepard plans to wait it out. And if you were to cut your hair doesn't that mean it would be better to have always kept your hair short? Like I said before I don't care if they put in long hair what I care about is for people to realise why it would make sense for shepard to have short hair.


First. Shepard's no longer a marine he's a Spectre. And yeah totally people with long hair never have been stranded and come out alive before. Yup. You have a harder time than someone with short hair. That's true but it doesn't make it impossible.  And yes you started the extreme circumstances to begin with. Shepard getting stranded for more than a few hours s already highly unlikely.  

And Befit. Shep's not on earth. He would be screwed if he went a certain distance from his resource hub without a way to escape. Survival skills don't count for much when you're somewhere that all the  food and water will hurt you!  

If Sheps being dropped on a planet I'm fairly certain they'll know about the wether patterns before dropping him. So again being stranded unexpectedly is unlikely. It's more likely to happen due to a loss of communications. 

If Shep gets stranded with space bugs in his hair (they'll probably be on his face as well as well as that facial hair of his not to mention that'll have to be cut so when he's shaving cutting his hair won't be that big of an issue) he'll have to waste some of the shuttle water (which...if he could get to he's not stranded.) regardless. 

I know why it makes sense for Shep to have short hair I don't need a rant. It's easier to clean and maintain. That's obvious to anyone who has long hair (like myself). Insisting that long hair is some sort of debilitating weakness however is laughable. It gets dirty but so does short hair as long as it's tied up (which if Shep's in a bad situation why wouldn't he tie his hair/cut it?) it's not a big issue unless you're in filth for long periods of time. Which isn't likely. 

Second fine whatever you're right. Let's ignore the fact that peple with long hair have been stranded before. Let's ignore the fact that Shep doesn't bring water/food around with him as well. 

Also you think the Normandy can't reach him but that shuttle can? :blink: The shuttle goes to the Normandy. Being stranded from the Normandy requires being stranded from the shuttle (unless for some mindboggling reason the Normandy leaves the drop point). The Shuttle can fly and is capable of limited FTL travel.  Having access to the shuttle means Shep's not stranded. Unless there's a Reaper and the Normandy needs to run...and Shepard will have far more pressing issues than food and water if there's a Reaper nearby. :lol: Now he could've been stranded from a drop in the Mako but the shuttle? No just...no. The shuttle leaves most of the time the second Shepard is dropped and comes to pick him up when he calls for them. (Also judging from Kasumi's mission there are no supplies on the shuttle. It simply looks like a transportation vehicle. There's no food/water stored (based off the codex I read anyway).) 

Here it is

Nicknamed the "Combat cockroach" by Alliance marines due to its durability and looks, the Kodiak drop shuttle is an interplanetary vehicle operated by a pilot and a co-pilot. It can carry up to 14 people, including the pilots, with a total of 12 in a cramped cargo space with full complement, as well as a VI. A true contragravitic vehicle, the Kodiak's substantial element zero core allows flight by entirely countering the vehicle's mass. Its small thrusters are for directional control only, so if the mass effect field fails, the vehicle becomes a proverbial "three-million-credit coffin". The unarmed shuttle forgoes weaponry-space for active masking, electronic countermeasures, and a robust kinetic barrier system.

The Kodiak was extensively tested in the sulfuric acid and extreme temperatures of Venus, and can land in hard vacuum, high pressure, and temperatures from near-absolute zero to over 900 degrees Celsius.

The larger mass of the Normandy SR-2—nearly twice the mass of the original—meant that it could not land on the surfaces of most planets with ease and had to be provided with one of these shuttles for ease of travel.


There's long hair yay. :wizard: 

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Befit wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Befit wrote...
Shepard is constantly going to uninhabited worlds and far reaches of space the possibility that he get stuck somewhere is pretty damn likely. For me if it does make much sense then why do it? It's like me demanding more crew cuts in Dragon age. But to each their own.

 

And if he gets stuck his hair wil be the least of his problems considering most of the planets don't have any food or water that he can safely consume. 

Do you understand now? Hair will not be an issue in that case. HE'S SCREWED. 

Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

There are a lot of long-haired dudes that practice every kind of sports or outdoor activities (such as camping, climbing , etc), and their hair is not a major issue.
Men! I have long hair and never gets stuck, but with a bad comb.

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Steffen wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Befit wrote...
Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

 

Ah I'm not arguing this. Long hair was confirmed so yay. :wizard:

Wasn't this only for females?


Nah one of the guys asked for long hair for his dude Shep and Hudson responded that there'd be more styles. Let me see if I can find it. 

http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson

Select the any other special requests tweet. Someone asks for long hair for guys and he asks about any other requests. :wub:

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