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[Befit]

Ryzaki wrote...

Befit wrote...You really don't understand how militaries work do you? Do you think soldiers can only go a certain distance from base or else they're screwed? You don't believe that the Kodiak shuttle probably has food and water in case of an emergency? You don't think Shepard was taught survival skills seeing where his missions as an alliance marine would take him? And stop jumping from one extreme to another there are such things as unforseen circumstances, Shepard lands on a planet for a mission, mission takes longer then expected and a magnetic storm rolls in not letting the shuttle take off or the Normandy down for pickup, storm expected to pass in one week, Shepard plans to wait it out. And if you were to cut your hair doesn't that mean it would be better to have always kept your hair short? Like I said before I don't care if they put in long hair what I care about is for people to realise why it would make sense for shepard to have short hair.

First. Shepard's no longer a marine he's a Spectre. And yeah totally peopl with long hair never have been stranded and come out alive before. Yup. You have a much harder time than someone with short hair. And yes you started the extreme circumstances to begin with. Shepard getting stranded for more than a few hours s already highly unlikely.  

If Sheps being dropped on a planet I'm fairly certain they'll know about the wether patterns before dropping him. So again being stranded unexpectedly is unlikely. It's more likely to happen due to a loss of communications. 


If Shep gets stranded with space bugs in his hair (they'll probably be on his face as well as well as that facial hair of his not to mention that'll have to be cut so when he's shaving cutting his hair won't be that big of an issue) he'll have to waste some of the shuttle water (which...if he could get to he's probably not stranded.) regardless. 

I know why it makes sense for Shep to have short hair I don't need a rant. It's easier to clean and maintain. That's obvious to anyone who has long hair (like myself). Insisting that long hair is some sort of debilitating weakness however is laughable. It gets dirty but so does short hair as long as it's tied up (which if Shep's in a bad situation why wouldn't he tie his hair/cut it?) it's not a big issue. 

Second fine whatever you're right. Let's ignore the fact that peple with long hair have been stranded before. 

Also you think the Normandy can't reach him but that shuttle can?  The shuttle goes to the Normandy. Being stranded from the Normandy requires being stranded from the shuttle (unless for some mindboggling reason the Normandy leaves the drop point). The Shuttle can fly and is capable of limited FTL travel.  Having access to the shuttle means Shep's not stranded. Unless there's a Reaper and the Normandy needs to run...and Shepard will have far more pressing issues than food and water if there's a Reaper nearby.  Now he could've been stranded from a drop in the Mako but the shuttle? No just...no. The shuttle leaves most of the time the second Shepard is dropped and comes to pick him up when he calls for them. (Also judging from Kasumi's mission there are no supplies on the shuttle. It simply looks like a transportation vehicle. There's no food/water stored (based off the codex I read anyway).) 

Here it is

Nicknamed the "Combat cockroach" by Alliance marines due to its durability and looks, the Kodiak drop shuttle is an interplanetary vehicle operated by a pilot and a co-pilot. It can carry up to 14 people, including the pilots, with a total of 12 in a cramped cargo space with full complement, as well as a VI. A true contragravitic vehicle, the Kodiak's substantial element zero core allows flight by entirely countering the vehicle's mass. Its small thrusters are for directional control only, so if the mass effect field fails, the vehicle becomes a proverbial "three-million-credit coffin". The unarmed shuttle forgoes weaponry-space for active masking, electronic countermeasures, and a robust kinetic barrier system.

The Kodiak was extensively tested in the sulfuric acid and extreme temperatures of Venus, and can land in hard vacuum, high pressure, and temperatures from near-absolute zero to over 900 degrees Celsius.

The larger mass of the Normandy SR-2—nearly twice the mass of the original—meant that it could not land on the surfaces of most planets with ease and had to be provided with one of these shuttles for ease of travel.

Yup. There's note likely to be food and water on that. 

There's long hair yay.  

That's why I said "Mission tok longer then expected" as in something didn't go according to plan. and that shuttle picks and chooses when it wants to leave. When visiting the normandy crash site, infiltrating the collector ship, and many others the shuttle stays put (which makes more sense to me if you had to leave in a hurry). Congratz on the long hair confirmation btw. I mean more magnetic storms that screw with electronics. and I consider the Spectre's a para-military group still outfitted like a soldier. but this is getting out of hand, agree to end it?

[Ryzaki]

Sure.

The normandy crash site makes sense because the mission was in a hurry and the pilot didn't have to worry about getting shot at. I don't think the shuttle stays in the CM though. When Shep is running through Joker mentions he's sending the shuttle in doesn't he? It's just waiting for Shep by the time he/she gets there? I did that mission yesterday...but I can't recall which is it.

My issue is the Spectres are more one man army types for secretive missions that you don't need to stay in the middle of nowhere for long periods of time. You get in, do you thing, get out.

But yeah the walls of text are getting ridiculous.

[Guitar-Hero]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steffen wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Befit wrote...
Stuck doesn't mean stranded, it just simply means the Normandy can't get him. And chances are landing parties would bring emergency provisions however if we were stuck somewhere for a while and you used what should be drinking water to wash your long hair because it got infested with some alien bugs expect me to be a little upset. I wonder if I should ask for more buzzcut options in dragonage.

 

Ah I'm not arguing this. Long hair was confirmed so yay. 

Wasn't this only for females?

Nah one of the guys asked for long hair for his dude Shep and Hudson responded that there'd be more styles. Let me see if I can find it. 

http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson

Select the any other special requests tweet. Someone asks for long hair for guys and he asks about any other requests. 

Sounds shakey, i guess we will see, and for the people who's sole argument is "HE IS A MARINE!" give it a rest, by that logic half of the female hairstyles should be locked and he wouldn't be able to have a beard without breaking regulations, i can understand not liking long hair as misguided as it might be, but leading a crusade of stupidity with arguments that have no hold has no value at all.

[raist747]

Sure. I've seen women with hair down to their butt when I was in Afghanistan. I have no idea how they got all that in their helmet.

People that think having long hair means instant snag are probably unaware that there are women in the military.

[habitat 67]

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

[Guitar-Hero]

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Reaks of badass..

[marshalleck]

habitat 67 wrote...

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

More choice is not better if all the hair continues to look like molded lumps of plastic glued to our Shepards' heads. I'd rather they spend time making the hairstyles we've already got look better, instead of just adding a lot more bad-looking ones. 

[Sanguinerin]

I started to read this thread, and after a few pages, I realized that there's something I really don't understand here.

Why does anyone else care if Ryzaki and others want Shepard with a longer hair style? You likely won't ever see their game. I highly doubt that BioWare will somehow force the hair style on you. If someone wants a longer hair style and the resources are there to give them that option, does it really change anything for you, personally, people of the opposition?

No, it doesn't. Okay, actually... Maybe it does. You have to flip through another hair style, or a few more, during character creation. Quelle horreur!

Seriously, this is a thread by someone wanting longer hair styles. Why even post if you're uninterested? If there are longer hair styles in ME3 and you don't like them, you have the option of not picking them. Case closed.

Of course, I suppose this is just the way of the forums... People not being able to handle things existing that they don't want in their game, that they could easily just ignore...

[marshalleck]

Steffen wrote...


Reaks of badass..

What's up with her shirt just gratuitously hanging open? How stupid and base. And people complain about Ashley's new uniform...sheesh. Get some perspective.

Modifié par marshalleck, 26 juin 2011 - 10:21 .

[Welsh Inferno]

marshalleck wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

More choice is not better if all the hair continues to look like molded lumps of plastic glued to our Shepards' heads. I'd rather they spend time making the hairstyles we've already got look better, instead of just adding a lot more bad-looking ones. 

Agreed. For that reason alone i cannot use any other hair style in the current games than the default buzz cut. 

EDIT: Marshalleck, she's usually zipped up, she unzipps when her and snake are getting romantic. (Game is MGS3 if you dont know)

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 26 juin 2011 - 10:24 .

[ReallyRue]

I like this idea. Along with femShep getting some good new styles (both practical and attractive), maleShep could do with something other than bad/buzz cut options. He doesn't have to wear it in the modern-day US military style just because he used to be in the Alliance. And even if he goes back, he's still a Spectre. They can wear what they want... provided they're wearing *something*, I imagine. If Ash can have sweepy hair, than Shepard can have whatever s/he wants too.

[Guitar-Hero]

marshalleck wrote...

Steffen wrote...


Reaks of badass..

What's up with her shirt just gratuitously hanging open? How stupid and base. And people complain about Ashley's new uniform...sheesh. Get some perspective.

The game is japanese.... I find it safer not to ask..

[Guitar-Hero]

marshalleck wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

More choice is not better if all the hair continues to look like molded lumps of plastic glued to our Shepards' heads. I'd rather they spend time making the hairstyles we've already got look better, instead of just adding a lot more bad-looking ones. 

This i agree with, however Casey Hudson said they are working with new tec. that should allow them to look better, but then again it is a bioware game and sadly hair isn't excactly their thing.

Modifié par Steffen, 26 juin 2011 - 10:29 .

[marshalleck]

Steffen wrote...

The game is japanese.... I find it safer not to ask..

What has Japanese got to do with anything?

[marshalleck]

Steffen wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

More choice is not better if all the hair continues to look like molded lumps of plastic glued to our Shepards' heads. I'd rather they spend time making the hairstyles we've already got look better, instead of just adding a lot more bad-looking ones. 

This i agree with, however Casey Hudson said they are working with new tec. that should allow them to look better, but then again it is a bioware game and sadly hair isn't excactly their thing.

Graphics in general aren't really Bioware's thing, which honestly is fine with me. If they chose to forego adding any new hairstyles or redesigning what we've got in favor of polishign up the writing and story I'd be perfectly content with that.

[GABy GaBS]

Steffen wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

More choice is not better if all the hair continues to look like molded lumps of plastic glued to our Shepards' heads. I'd rather they spend time making the hairstyles we've already got look better, instead of just adding a lot more bad-looking ones. 

This i agree with, however Casey Hudson said they are working with new tec. that should allow them to look better, but then again it is a bioware game and sadly hair isn't excactly their thing.

I wonder if the Unreal Engine 3 can render hair as the Final Fantasy XIII or MGS4 engines does. Alice Madness Returns was made with Unreal Engine and hair doesn´t look bad there. Is Bioware capable of do better on that?

[Ryzaki]

marshalleck wrote...

Steffen wrote...

The game is japanese.... I find it safer not to ask..

What has Japanese got to do with anything?

Everyone wears ridculous clothing in MGS. Hilarious the males are more fetishized then the women for once. I.E. Solid Snake's skintight stealthsuit. 

[Befit]

HallowedWarden wrote...

I started to read this thread, and after a few pages, I realized that there's something I really don't understand here.

Why does anyone else care if Ryzaki and others want Shepard with a longer hair style? You likely won't ever see their game. I highly doubt that BioWare will somehow force the hair style on you. If someone wants a longer hair style and the resources are there to give them that option, does it really change anything for you, personally, people of the opposition?

No, it doesn't. Okay, actually... Maybe it does. You have to flip through another hair style, or a few more, during character creation. Quelle horreur!

Seriously, this is a thread by someone wanting longer hair styles. Why even post if you're uninterested? If there are longer hair styles in ME3 and you don't like them, you have the option of not picking them. Case closed.

Of course, I suppose this is just the way of the forums... People not being able to handle things existing that they don't want in their game, that they could easily just ignore...

I mainly argue when people try to back up the reason for long hair with lore claiming that just cuz Shepard became a Spectre he can finally have his dream of flowing locks. When in reality people simply want longer hair cuz they think it's nicer looking. As long as people realize that the only reason shep would have long hair is because people wanted to play dress up.

[Guitar-Hero]

GABy GaBS wrote...

Steffen wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

I want long hair. For people who want only short hair, don't choose a long hair option. More choice and customization is always better. Arguing against what you don't want if it is so easy to avoid is just a waste of hot air really.

More choice is not better if all the hair continues to look like molded lumps of plastic glued to our Shepards' heads. I'd rather they spend time making the hairstyles we've already got look better, instead of just adding a lot more bad-looking ones. 

This i agree with, however Casey Hudson said they are working with new tec. that should allow them to look better, but then again it is a bioware game and sadly hair isn't excactly their thing.

I wonder if the Unreal Engine 3 can render hair as the Final Fantasy XIII or MGS4 engines does. Alice Madness Returns was made with Unreal Engine and hair doesn´t look bad there. Is Bioware capable of do better on that?

You'd have to ask Casey about that, it looks really great though, and being a huge mgs-fanboy anything from that game would be welcome, though mgs4 used an engine that can't be transferred to xbox, it was made specifically for ps3, thats why it's being modified for rising(or so i've heard).

[Guitar-Hero]

Befit wrote...

HallowedWarden wrote...

I started to read this thread, and after a few pages, I realized that there's something I really don't understand here.

Why does anyone else care if Ryzaki and others want Shepard with a longer hair style? You likely won't ever see their game. I highly doubt that BioWare will somehow force the hair style on you. If someone wants a longer hair style and the resources are there to give them that option, does it really change anything for you, personally, people of the opposition?

No, it doesn't. Okay, actually... Maybe it does. You have to flip through another hair style, or a few more, during character creation. Quelle horreur!

Seriously, this is a thread by someone wanting longer hair styles. Why even post if you're uninterested? If there are longer hair styles in ME3 and you don't like them, you have the option of not picking them. Case closed.

Of course, I suppose this is just the way of the forums... People not being able to handle things existing that they don't want in their game, that they could easily just ignore...

I mainly argue when people try to back up the reason for long hair with lore claiming that just cuz Shepard became a Spectre he can finally have his dream of flowing locks. When in reality people simply want longer hair cuz they think it's nicer looking. As long as people realize that the only reason shep would have long hair is because people wanted to play dress up.

As oposed to "playing soldier" anything can be trivialised.

[Befit]

Steffen wrote...

Befit wrote...

HallowedWarden wrote...

I started to read this thread, and after a few pages, I realized that there's something I really don't understand here.

Why does anyone else care if Ryzaki and others want Shepard with a longer hair style? You likely won't ever see their game. I highly doubt that BioWare will somehow force the hair style on you. If someone wants a longer hair style and the resources are there to give them that option, does it really change anything for you, personally, people of the opposition?

No, it doesn't. Okay, actually... Maybe it does. You have to flip through another hair style, or a few more, during character creation. Quelle horreur!

Seriously, this is a thread by someone wanting longer hair styles. Why even post if you're uninterested? If there are longer hair styles in ME3 and you don't like them, you have the option of not picking them. Case closed.

Of course, I suppose this is just the way of the forums... People not being able to handle things existing that they don't want in their game, that they could easily just ignore...

I mainly argue when people try to back up the reason for long hair with lore claiming that just cuz Shepard became a Spectre he can finally have his dream of flowing locks. When in reality people simply want longer hair cuz they think it's nicer looking. As long as people realize that the only reason shep would have long hair is because people wanted to play dress up.

As oposed to "playing soldier" anything can be trivialised.

Yes I am playing soldier in a game were my character is a soldier

[Kreid]

marshalleck wrote...
What's up with her shirt just gratuitously hanging open? How stupid and base. And people complain about Ashley's new uniform...sheesh. Get some perspective.

Funny how behind her is, according to many, one of the best female characters ever written in gaming, truly an ironic contrast.

Anyway, I think that what Bioware is using is a new shader tech with the hair so probably the meshes will be the same but they won't look like plastic, they might be dynamic as well who knows.

Modifié par Creid-X, 27 juin 2011 - 12:40 .

[MrObnoxiousUK]

Forget hairstyles, i want a victorian military mustache with mutton chops!

[Sister Helen]

Personally, I'm not crazy about the idea of maleshep having long hair, as he's a soldier in most of my playthroughs.  But I would love to see more versions of short hairstyles that look good.  I didn't like any of the male haircuts.
One of the out-of-the-box male hairstyles was lopsided, one looks like it's trying to be a cross between a mullet and an Elvis-flip, and how many versions of "shaved" are interesting after the first two?