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 I have seen on the forums a great debate on whether the Grey Wardens should return or not.

I am personally a great fan of the Grey Warden institution created by bioware and would hope that our own warden to continue a growing and elaborative story. 

Obvioulsy however there are many saying that they don't want the series to be confined. To them I offer an alternative, a system like to the which was used in "Elder Scrolls; Oblivion" where your character remained neutral with the option to join factions and guilds. This system slightly adapted would allow players to become part of and learn more about the great groups around Thedas from choosing to directly side with mages/templars to becoming an ash warrior.

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This is just a small list on areas I think would be brilliant to use this system -

1) Country reputation, jobs and questions done for a country that rewards characters with things like lordships and country army general.
2) Institution/ Guild reputation, missions again gain reputation that results in promotion to positions like Master ash warrior. (Ash warrior, Grey Warden, Templar, Dragon Cultists, Antivan Crow ..............).
3) Conflicting groups, The Qun, mages and templars are all in conflict with themselves and other and deciding on whether your character treats them all equally or side fully would make the world a lot more customizable and expand the story.

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I would like to see a blight scenario where in Origins and Awakenings, the blight and advanced darkspawn that the warden stopped in Ferelden are in fact not gone but have now begun a blight with the talking darkspawn in The Free marches and, of course it's Hawke who has to become a Grey Warden to stop it while also returning to fix the problems the seeker in DA2 mentions with mages and the chantry nearly causing a war. I think that would make for tons of quest, having to unite a nation at war, then ally with Ferelden, stop a blight and some very intelligent darkspawn, including a father and a brood mother who are also at war over which of the 2-3 high dragons now awake is really the old god (archedemon) which Hawke must figure out, hunt and kill. That would allow charachters from both sagas so far as well as new ones, and we'd need the joining ritula, which should be a mage crafting skill for the added part then a grey warden to add the archdemon and darkspawn blood thus meaning your Hawke warden has to team with a mage, or be one him.herself to even create the joining drink.

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I really hope they don't bring him back, not because I don't like him but because his story is over.

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They're not going to get rid of VO, giving the Warden a voice would be bad.

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Forget it, read Mike Laildaw and you will understand that Bioware has finally abandoned the Warden as a PC.

They even think to start again with Hawk for DA3. :sick:

It's hard to believe that things will change profoundly when the same important things will be back the next episode.

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Sylvianus wrote...

Forget it, read Mike Laildaw and you will understand that Bioware has finally abandoned the Warden as a PC.

They even think to start again with Hawk for DA3. :sick:

It's hard to believe that things will change profoundly when the same important things will be back the next episode.


If they were smart they would want to distance themselves from DA2 as much as they could, and includes the protaginist.

They just need a new PC, it's not like they are hard to make.

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Sylvianus wrote...

Forget it, read Mike Laildaw and you will understand that Bioware has finally abandoned the Warden as a PC.

They even think to start again with Hawk for DA3. :sick:

It's hard to believe that things will change profoundly when the same important things will be back the next episode.


The article from eurogamer or whatever that said "Mike Laidlaw has hinted at plans for Hawke and a sequel" actually didn't say anything regarding Mike Laidlaw saying that.

You read that article and you'll see that nowhere was it shown to be there.

So I'm not taking that site seriously anymore since they said "Over in this article so-and-so said this" and the article they linked me to doesn't have any proof of what they're claiming.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Forget it, read Mike Laildaw and you will understand that Bioware has finally abandoned the Warden as a PC.

They even think to start again with Hawk for DA3. :sick:

It's hard to believe that things will change profoundly when the same important things will be back the next episode.


The article from eurogamer or whatever that said "Mike Laidlaw has hinted at plans for Hawke and a sequel" actually didn't say anything regarding Mike Laidlaw saying that.

You read that article and you'll see that nowhere was it shown to be there.

So I'm not taking that site seriously anymore since they said "Over in this article so-and-so said this" and the article they linked me to doesn't have any proof of what they're claiming.


I read also Mike Laidlwaw and saw his vision for the future. Clearly the idea of ​​taking the Warden again didn't delight him.

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I could care less whether I play as Xanthos Aeducan again or not. But if he makes cameo appearance and is voiced then he needs to be voiced by Fred Tatasciore, because that was the voice that best fit him for me.


Or they could just make him like Red in Pokemon Gold and Silver. He doesn't say anything, but you see him.


EDIT: crap, phrase dilemma. Is it "could care less" or "couldn't care less"?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 25 juin 2011 - 08:52 .


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I certainly hope they are not considering making Hawke the PC for DA3, if they are I most certainly won't be buying the game, not only was DA2 thoroughly disappointing but Hawke itself was a pretty big faillure as a character.

Similarily, even if we have a new PC in DA3 and it happens to look like a Hawke/Shepard clone, I will most likely not buy the game.

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I don't really see what is so great about the warden it was fun playing him but really there isn't much else to do with him/her and it would just be easier to create a new hero, I don't see why so many people fawn over playing as the warden it would be more fun playing a new character

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If the warden comes back in DA3 I won't buy the game, you heard me Bioware ?

Am I doing this right ?

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I could care less whether I play as Xanthos Aeducan again or not. But if he makes cameo appearance and is voiced then he needs to be voiced by Fred Tatasciore, because that was the voice that best fit him for me.


Or they could just make him like Red in Pokemon Gold and Silver. He doesn't say anything, but you see him.


EDIT: crap, phrase dilemma. Is it "could care less" or "couldn't care less"?


Couldn't.

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Zanallen, 25 juin 2011 - 08:56 .


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I personally want to have a option to play either with my Warden or Hawk, or, with a totally new character. The key would be a option to play the game from different views with different characters and different endings.

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Hawk as PC and the Warden as a companion 8^)

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People would complain if the Warden returned because if they did decide go that route, it would like be retconned to just the Human Noble origin.

If you want to see a Hell break loose, you would see some extremely pissed off people if their dwarf and Dalish wardens were disregarded.  :blink:

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Melca36 wrote...

People would complain if the Warden returned because if they did decide go that route, it would like be retconned to just the Human Noble origin.

If you want to see a Hell break loose, you would see some extremely pissed off people if their dwarf and Dalish wardens were disregarded.  :blink:


Human noble origins Sword & Shield is the canon anyway ;)
At least in the trailer :innocent:

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 25 juin 2011 - 09:03 .


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from the feel of the story line

i would think that the warden and hero of kirk wall will return in 1 final event  along with  felmeth and liliana

least that is what i think
cuase both dao and da2  makes me think there is going to be 1 big event:bandit:

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Wulfram wrote...

They're not going to get rid of VO, giving the Warden a voice would be bad.


They could do it but people would raise hell because they would likely only use one warden/one class...the one that was the most popular according to their research. They would use the human noble class and get voices for the male/female Warden. 

Everyone who had dwarf or dalish wardens would be screwed.

Modifié par Melca36, 25 juin 2011 - 09:05 .


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Melca36 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

They're not going to get rid of VO, giving the Warden a voice would be bad.


They could do it but people would raise hell because they would likely only use one warden/one class...the one that was the most popular according to their research. They would use the human noble class and get voices for the male/female Warden. 

Everyone who had dwarf or dalish wardens would be screwed.


Dwarf and Dalish are inferior. Be superior, be a noble human :police:

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 25 juin 2011 - 09:06 .


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Imperium Alpha wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

People would complain if the Warden returned because if they did decide go that route, it would like be retconned to just the Human Noble origin.

If you want to see a Hell break loose, you would see some extremely pissed off people if their dwarf and Dalish wardens were disregarded.  :blink:


Human noble origins Sword & Shield is the canon anyway ;)
At least in the trailer :innocent:


And thats the route they would likely go....

They would initially have a default male/female character but people who did not like that origin would be left out in the cold and if people think they saw anger over DA:2....it would be mild compared to knowing their dwarf or dalish Wardens would be tossed aside.

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Imperium Alpha wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

They're not going to get rid of VO, giving the Warden a voice would be bad.


They could do it but people would raise hell because they would likely only use one warden/one class...the one that was the most popular according to their research. They would use the human noble class and get voices for the male/female Warden. 

Everyone who had dwarf or dalish wardens would be screwed.


Dwarf and Dalish are inferior. Be superior, be a noble human :police:



Well my canon is a Human Noble Rogue....:lol:

I would just feel bad for those with Dwarf and Dalish Wardens.

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No they could probably use the Warden from every race. And if we're unable to recustomize them to be as close as they were in Origins, give them a full helm. Then, if there's some way to find out which battle voice was picked the most, then pick that for the Warden.

So if 68% of people chose Fred Tatasciore for the Dwarven Male voice, then Fred Tatasciore could fully voice the Dwarf Noble Warden.


edit: Thanks Zanallen

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 25 juin 2011 - 09:12 .


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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

No they could probably use the Warden from every race. And if we're unable to recustomize them to be as close as they were in Origins, give them a full helm. Then, if there's some way to find out which battle voice was picked the most, then pick that for the Warden.

So if 68% of people chose Fred Tatasciore for the Dwarven Male voice, then Fred Tatasciore could fully voice the Dwarf Noble Warden.


But wouldn't their be extra cost involved if each origin was voiced?

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Melca36 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

They're not going to get rid of VO, giving the Warden a voice would be bad.


They could do it but people would raise hell because they would likely only use one warden/one class...the one that was the most popular according to their research. They would use the human noble class and get voices for the male/female Warden. 

Everyone who had dwarf or dalish wardens would be screwed.


Dwarf and Dalish are inferior. Be superior, be a noble human :police:



Well my canon is a Human Noble Rogue....:lol:

I would just feel bad for those with Dwarf and Dalish Wardens.


Agree. But after all even if they make one voice people would complain about the voice not being the one the want. Personally I don't care. When you born you don't chose your voice B)

To the other post. The battle voice in DAO were all horible anyway... =] Ohhh and generic...

Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 25 juin 2011 - 09:12 .