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DoNotIngest wrote...
Ah yes, "Planned romances that were canceled at the last minute due to a comment on Chicken Feet."
We have dismissed this claim.
Bocks wrote...
It should never have been a retcon from the start. It's the writers who handled it badly. Seeing as the writers probably couldn't handle a normal heterosexual romance, who's to say the homosexual romance won't be much, much more disastrous.
I mean, really. Would you rather Bioware not try and not fail than try and fail miserably, possibly hurting the character in the process? You said it yourself that you were disappointed with how they handled Tali's character.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 25 juin 2011 - 10:26 .
In that case, "Luke I am your father" would be considered a retcon.Dean_the_Young wrote...
Not a universal definition. Plenty of people would call the unwarranted addition of something as having always been there when no sign, suggestion, or implication as to be an effective retroactive coninuity.IsaacShep wrote...
Retcons have to contradict something.
Direct contradiction need not apply. Change to continuity, does.
Modifié par VirtualStranger, 25 juin 2011 - 10:25 .
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VirtualStranger wrote...
IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
VirtualStranger wrote...
I don't think you get my point. if there had been no romance at all in the first place, then they would not deserve anything. But since they opted to include romances for straight gamers, then it is perfectly reasonable for non-straight gamers to be included as well. It is also perfectly reasonable for them to complain when this doesn't happen, ESPECIALLY IN A GAME BASED AROUNG PLAYER CHOICE.
This whole thing could have been avoided if Bioware had included those options in the first place. Not only did they not fix that mistake in ME2, they actively took a step backwards. This is simply a matter of correcting that enequity.
Which is really one of the points that the OP made.
Introduce new bisexual/homosexual characters for the bisexual/homosexual players, and not retcon existing characters (which I think only Jack would require a retcon, although Grunt may also fall under this category).
The problem with that is that almost nobody wants new LIs. Starting a relationship with a character you just met and have no emotional attachment to in the last act in a trilogy is just not the same as building up a relationship over the course of the entire series.
And revealing new information about a subject that's never come up before is not a retcon. Metadata is NOT canon.
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
It's already confirmed that there are going to be new LIs in ME3. There is some speculation that these will be the s/s LIs. Also, Casey Hudson said that current LIs being m/m or f/f is "not necessarily true".
Modifié par RinjiRenee, 25 juin 2011 - 10:38 .
LeVaughnX wrote...
I've seen quite a few threads/topics full of people basically begging, crying, whining, and bothering everyone and everything just to be able to have a sexual relationship with the same sex in Mass Effect 3. Now in Dragon Age 2 this didn't work very well; as I played my Straight Male apparently all of the in-game Male Squadies thought I was gay just because I tried to be "friendly" with everyone. So I already didn't like the idea though I do believe in equality.
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RinjiRenee wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
It's already confirmed that there are going to be new LIs in ME3. There is some speculation that these will be the s/s LIs. Also, Casey Hudson said that current LIs being m/m or f/f is "not necessarily true".
"Not necessarily true" is a lot different than saying "not true." Basically that tweet disconfirms that all LIs are bi.
Yes, we will be getting new squadmates as s/s options. But it still has not been ruled out that at least one former LI will become s/s.
General User wrote...
For ME3, I think Jack should be made a romance option for femSheps because she mentions having at least one past sexual relationship with a woman.
I oppose Kaidan being made into a romance option for maleSheps. But given Kaidan's... unusual reaction to meeting Shep on Horizon, it would not be the end of the world for me if that character was "revealed" to be bisexual.
Nothing of the sort can be said for Ashley, Miranda, Jacob, or Thane, however. Those characters should remain strictly heterosexual romance options.
IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
General User wrote...
For ME3, I think Jack should be made a romance option for femSheps because she mentions having at least one past sexual relationship with a woman.
I oppose Kaidan being made into a romance option for maleSheps. But given Kaidan's... unusual reaction to meeting Shep on Horizon, it would not be the end of the world for me if that character was "revealed" to be bisexual.
Nothing of the sort can be said for Ashley, Miranda, Jacob, or Thane, however. Those characters should remain strictly heterosexual romance options.
She also said she was young and vulnerable when that happened and that now she is not into women, so it doesn't fly as an excuse.
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