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Does anyone else think that Shepard is going to be on trial for working with Cerberus and not becuase of the Arrival mission.


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RedMageNeko

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I think we can expect it to cover both your working with Cerberus and the events of Arrival, as its been said that the events of both Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival happened even if you didn't buy the DLC, so Liara is the Broker in ME3 and you wiped out a Batarian System. Plus, the comment made by Admiral Hackett at the end of Arrival sort of nails it for me.

"For now, continue doing whatever it is your doing out here. But when Earth calls, you show up with your dress blues on, ready to take the hit.". Or something along those lines.

The way I imagine it playing out, the prosecution will be arguing that your destruction of the Alpha Relay in the Bahak system was a Cerberus terrorist operation, using your now well published connection with Cerberus as proof and most likely including your rampage through Illium during the events of LoSB as part of your terrorist acts. If you didn't play either of those DLC's, you don't have much to say in your defense other then you were working to stop the Reapers, while if you took part in them you or your prosecuter can object by you trying to contact the Batarian's to warn them about your plan to destroy the relay or how you saved the waitress at Azure from the rogue Spectre Vasir.

Regardless, before a conviction can be reached the Reapers show up and start laying the smackdown on Earth.

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RedMageNeko wrote...

The way I imagine it playing out, the prosecution will be arguing that your destruction of the Alpha Relay in the Bahak system was a Cerberus terrorist operation, using your now well published connection with Cerberus as proof and most likely including your rampage through Illium during the events of LoSB as part of your terrorist acts. If you didn't play either of those DLC's, you don't have much to say in your defense other then you were working to stop the Reapers, while if you took part in them you or your prosecuter can object by you trying to contact the Batarian's to warn them about your plan to destroy the relay or how you saved the waitress at Azure from the rogue Spectre Vasir.

Regardless, before a conviction can be reached the Reapers show up and start laying the smackdown on Earth.



I still don't feel comfortable with the idea of the entire trial relying on those two DLC and utterly dismissing the ME2 campaign. Because in that case, you needn't have played ME2 at all, simply play those two DLC and you're good for they are the only ones that have bearing on ME3 (I'm hoping some of the things you did in ME2 have actual bearing on ME3).

Modifié par OdanUrr, 26 juin 2011 - 02:25 .


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as the reapers will invite themselves in during the trial, there will be no outcome to the trial no matter the accusations.
but if indeed working for Cerberus is part of the accusation then it's really low . It's like accusing Shepard for being alive.

i wonder if the trial will be just an intro movie till the Reapers pop in, or if there will be dialogue options .

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What;s going to happen is likely going to be a Military Tribunal. This is different from a trial. A military tribunal is a mix between a trial and a hearing. It will be focused on Shepard and his past actions from the last two years. They will ask about Cerberus for sure, but they will also ask about the events of Arrival.

Though I think your actions from the first and second game will have an effect on the dialogue. Such as destroying the Cerberus bases in the first game, and handing Cerberus Intel over to the Alliance, as a way to prove your loyalty.

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1. Ether Ashley or Kaidan on Horizon, reporting to the Alliance and the Council that Shepard is working with Cerberus.

2. The Council says to Shepard that working for Cerberus is treason.

3. N7 mission's and Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC, look like they help Shepard prove his or her loyalty to the Alliance and the Council. ( Endangered Research Station, Imminent Ship Crash, Javelin Missiles, Lost Operative, MSV Estevanico, Normandy Crash Site, and LotSB DLC: sending the Alliance the Warning Signal info. )

4. Shepard surrounding him or her self with allies that do not like Cerberus or just in it for the money. This will give Shepard eyewitnesses to prove his or her loyalty.


The coucil knew you were working with cerberus you would know this if you played ME2. And all they say is we hope that relationship ends fast or something like that.

It happens the first time you go to the presidium in ME2

Modifié par Hxrizon, 26 juin 2011 - 04:38 .


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nitrog100

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How do they explain arresting you if you got your Spectre status reinstated? If you're above the law, then what reason do they have to take you into custody.

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nitrog100 wrote...

How do they explain arresting you if you got your Spectre status reinstated? If you're above the law, then what reason do they have to take you into custody.


Usually blowing up a Mass Relay, 30,000 colonists, and an entire solar system overrules Spectre status.

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Gavinthelocust wrote...

Usually blowing up a Mass Relay, 30,000 colonists, and an entire solar system overrules Spectre status.


That is a matter for the Council then, not the Alliance.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 26 juin 2011 - 05:17 .


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nitrog100

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Gavinthelocust wrote...

nitrog100 wrote...

How do they explain arresting you if you got your Spectre status reinstated? If you're above the law, then what reason do they have to take you into custody.


Usually blowing up a Mass Relay, 30,000 colonists, and an entire solar system overrules Spectre status.

The Batarians aren't part of the Citadel systems, so it's not treason, and Saren had gotten away with killing hundreds of civilians before. Destroying that particular relay was pretty justifiable, especially since Shepard has hard data on the Reapers (Joker handed him that datapad with the Reaper info recovered by EDI). Oh well, at least the Council and the Alliance are both going to owe Shepard a collective ass kissing apology after the Reapers actually show up.

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Gavinthelocust wrote...
Usually blowing up a Mass Relay, 30,000 colonists, and an entire solar system overrules Spectre status.


Allegedly. 

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nitrog100

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Actually, going over Arrival again, I think that the whole trial is a sham. The Alliance has to put Shepard on trial to avoid war with the Batarians. They probably put off the trial as long as possible before the Batarians demanded action and they had to call Shepard back to Earth. It definitely makes sense.

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One thing I didn't see anyone mentioning is that Anderson has an insider in Cerberus. He could even be working in Normandy for all we know so the Alliance should have a clear picture about what Shepard's been up to lately.

Guess the trial is just for showing the masses that even Shepard can't do anything he/she likes. Even if Shepard was charged, Anderson would just give Shepard sunglasses and fake mustache(yup, even femshep) and send him/her back to work.

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working for Cerberus is not what he was chosen. it was inevitable. TIM gave him life. then he has to do what TIM asks for. so this isn't really guilty for trial. if you were him, do you just escape from TIM no matter what? I don't think so. that's so outrageous before you will know what'll be coming. so the reason for trial is more like arrival incident (kill batarians), long rumor for reapers. not cerberus.

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Look Saren was stripped of his specter status for an attack on eden prime, and he failed to nuke the damn place.

Shep just destroyed a system, and even more importantly a RELAY. He destroyed what was once thought indestructible, and irreplaceable resource. His specter status means nothing now.

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VegasVance

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Nashiktal wrote...
His specter status means nothing now.


Then bioware desreves a kick to the quad for forcing our previous choices to unexist. (Again) 

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VegasVance wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
His specter status means nothing now.


Then bioware desreves a kick to the quad for forcing our previous choices to unexist. (Again) 


Why? Its a consequence of Sheps actions, just like with saren. The council dropped Saren like a hot potatoe for less and he was their favorite agent.


Shep dissapears from the specters for two years, reappears working for the space Taliban, Guns his way through Illium, and then blows up a star system. Why? to fight a race of enemies that the council denies they even exist.

But hey, no biggie.

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It could be more like the space Confederacy, IMHO.


Edit: browser fail right now :(

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 26 juin 2011 - 06:51 .


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It would be a nice twist!

You get in the court room, reporters everywhere, camera flashes, you assume you will be questioned for your actions during the Arrival. Turns out, they just wanted you to indirectly attack Cerberus.

All hell breaks loose when the Reaper invade!

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VegasVance

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Nashiktal wrote...

Why? Its a consequence of Sheps actions, just like with saren. The council dropped Saren like a hot potatoe for less and he was their favorite agent.


Shep dissapears from the specters for two years, reappears working for the space Taliban, Guns his way through Illium, and then blows up a star system. Why? to fight a race of enemies that the council denies they even exist.

But hey, no biggie.


Oh it's not that its the whole I had a "choice" but bioware's poor retconning took it away.  Like Udina getting Ambassador in the books.  I want my damn five minutes back for the concil conversation now. <_<

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The trail will be a plot-device for new players to select what they have done in the past, to those who import, our choices will be repeated and we will have to explain why we did as such.

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azerSheppard wrote...

The trail will be a plot-device for new players to select what they have done in the past, to those who import, our choices will be repeated and we will have to explain why we did as such.


I could see that working. The entire run-up could be your arrival on Earth and the beginning of the trial. You could pick your name, your appearance and the rest. Sounds cool!