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[BluMighty]

Am I the only one who noticed that while Ashley has been trashed for being "racist", other crewmates in both Mass Effect 1 and 2 make racist comments as well? 





Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but I've been marathoning the Mass Effect series this week, and I just happened to notice that Ashley isn't the only one guilty of making racist remarks, but yet, she's the only one ever called out on it.

[King Zeel]

Because this board is filled to the brim with fangirls who's idea of a good weekend is to bolster their favourite LI. Logic and thinking clearly mean nothing to these girls, tis all about validating their virtual relationships.

That's why I don't put up with the majority of their suggestions, its all about what they want and how they can get it and how hot Thane is.

Modifié par King Zeel, 26 juin 2011 - 04:04 .

[King Zeel]

mrsph wrote...

Ashley's reasons just seem really petty compared to the races with century long blood feuds you know

incoming fangirl. I guess LOOKING AFTER THE HUMAN RACE SURVIVAL IS PETTY.

[Collider]

Ashley said...

"Jealous? Of you? You're not even our species!"
"You want to get involved with some alien? Go ahead."

[OdanUrr]

Probably because she's the only one (I think) who openly admits she isn't very fond of aliens.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 26 juin 2011 - 04:06 .

[BluMighty]

Collider wrote...

Ashley said...

"Jealous? Of you? You're not even our species!"
"You want to get involved with some alien? Go ahead."

Why is Ashley considered racist, but not the other party members?

Once again, it's not about just Ashley...but also pointing out the fact that other party members say racist things as well.

[Sand King]

King Zeel wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Ashley's reasons just seem really petty compared to the races with century long blood feuds you know

incoming fangirl. I guess LOOKING AFTER THE HUMAN RACE SURVIVAL IS PETTY.

Some one needs to get of their high horse.

[King Zeel]

mrsph wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

incoming fangirl. I guess LOOKING AFTER THE HUMAN RACE SURVIVAL IS PETTY.

My romance is Jacob.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jacob has a confirmed spot in me3.


If you're going to lie, do it properly.

[NICKjnp]

Mordin says some insulting things about Krogan scientists.

[BluMighty]

mrsph wrote...

Ashley's reasons just seem really petty compared to the races with century long blood feuds you know

I don't know. Racism is racism to me.

[Corephyfish]

Because she isn't even open minded about it at all and seems disgusted by them, sure she was in a team with them but if she had the choice she wouldn't have been.

It's people like her who cause society to stagnate as they don't want change or to move forward.

That is just my opinion anyway.

[Gavinthelocust]

NICKjnp wrote...

Mordin says some insulting things about Krogan scientists.

Wrex says some insulting things about Krogan scientists.

[Collider]

BluMighty wrote...

Collider wrote...

Ashley said...

"Jealous? Of you? You're not even our species!"
"You want to get involved with some alien? Go ahead."

Why is Ashley considered racist, but not the other party members?

Once again, it's not about just Ashley...but also pointing out the fact that other party members say racist things as well.

Because Ashley makes the biggest deal about aliens in general
More than any other squad mate, she talks about aliens.

[V-rex]

I really don't think Ashley is nearly as bad as people say she is. In fact, compared to the way other people in the game react to other races, Ashley might as well be a member of the progressive movement.

That said, every now and then people will point out that say, Mordin has some offensive views about the Krogan, or that Tali is a Geth hating nut job or how Grunt is one slur away from being a hate crime committer.... but these pop up much less often and without the degree of irrational anger people give to Ashley.
Maybe it's because Ashley is a human, and hence her prejudice feels more real because while two fictional races lashing out against each other isn't a big deal, if a human does it, it can be connected to real world racism.

But all the same, I don't get why Ashley deserves the label 'Space N*zi' or to be labelled as 'scum'. Considering the two worst things she's ever done is voice concern about Foreign Nationals having access to the vital systems of the Normandy, and shooting Wrex when he was pretty blatantly about to shoot Shepard.

Most of the other stuff people accuse her of is either based on a total misunderstanding of what she was talking about (bear-dog analogy) or based on a line that was glitched and only ever meant to be triggered when near a Keeper (can't tell aliens from animals) or just basic projection onto her character. The same way people assume that because she's religious she must be Christian even though she makes no reference to Jesus or the Bible or anything to give off that kind of hint.

Considering the plethora of other things Ashley says and does to counter the notion that she's racist, happily volunteering to assist the Salarians on Virmire, opposing Terra Firma, hoping for improved relations with humans and Quarians, showing sympathy to Liara losing her mother and stating very plainly that she doesn't think humans are superior... it irks me that she gets insulted as being 'racist'. More so when I see other characters who have it far worse getting away with it.

But like I said, I imagine it could just be different to see two fictional races hate each other then it would to see a human do it. But then that's just a thought.

[DoNotIngest]

King Zeel wrote...

mrsph wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

incoming fangirl. I guess LOOKING AFTER THE HUMAN RACE SURVIVAL IS PETTY.

My romance is Jacob.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jacob has a confirmed spot in me3.


If you're going to lie, do it properly.

Zeely boy, what have I taught you?! Your post has to be inflammatory, and you know what? You're pretty good at that. Though, with all the caps, it looks like you care too much; A real troll is chillaxed while he pushes buttons. Where you're getting it wrong is that, even the most inflamed forumite will pause and say "lulwut?" at random comments like that, and it ruins the rage-cycle. You're doing okay, but listen to the Masters, and you'll be a one-troll wonder.

[King Zeel]

mrsph wrote...

King Zeel wrote...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jacob has a confirmed spot in me3.


If you're going to lie, do it properly.

No, seriously.

I'm even the OP of the Jacob support thread.

Goodness gracious. Your problems are too long to list.

[BluMighty]

NICKjnp wrote...

Mordin says some insulting things about Krogan scientists.

I sort of remember Miranda making pretty screwed up comments as well. I forget.

But you're right, you can even call out Mordin for it too, (I think it was like, "Do I detect some racism, doctor?")

Honestly, I think the only character in either game that doesn't say something incredibly ignorant or hateful, is Kaidan. He seems to be the most open minded and understanding of all the crew members.

[King Zeel]

V-rex wrote...

Short-form: Get over it, alien fans.

Yeah.

[King Zeel]

michaelrsa wrote...

Take her line "I'm no fan of aliens"

Replace "aliens" with "blacks", "jews", "asians" or any other race and it's pretty damn racist.

I can't believe you're comparing other races to extraterristials.


Seriously this is what ME universe has done to your preteen minds.