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[ThePwener]

Garrison2009 wrote...

Definition of Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various races determine cultural or individual achievment, usually involving the idea that ones own race is superior and has the right to rule over others.

Now, does what she says exactly fit the mold of racism as per the definition above (Which you are more than welcome to look up online)?? No. It does not.

Where? Wikipedia? Amazing. There are many forms of racism kid, not just the superiority complex.

[Garrison2009]

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Definition of Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various races determine cultural or individual achievment, usually involving the idea that ones own race is superior and has the right to rule over others.

Now, does what she says exactly fit the mold of racism as per the definition above (Which you are more than welcome to look up online)?? No. It does not.

Where? Wikipedia? Amazing. There are many forms of racism kid, not just the superiority complex.

Many forms of racism? Excuse me? You just showed your true colors there. You might as well say there are many answers to the problem 2+2. No, there is only one kind of racism and that is the racism that I gave the definition for above.

And no I didnt look it up on Wikipedia for your information as that site has a tendency to be innacurate quite often. I got the definition from a 1984 Webster's Dictionary which I happen to own.

[Made Nightwing]

OMG the WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY IS DA BEST!

[ThePwener]

Like I said.... amazing. Just because that dictionary has only one definition... that makes it the only one. Amazing.

EDIT: Supremacism is the belief to be superior to another.

There, discussion over, throw your webster at me all you want. Im leaving before Godwyn's law happens.

Modifié par ThePwener, 30 juin 2011 - 05:38 .

[Garrison2009]

ThePwener wrote...

Like I said.... amazing. Just because that dictionary has only one definition... that makes it the only one. Amazing.

Very well then, what other forms of racism are there? List them that I may learn from your wisdom (which you obviously have in infinite supply).

Modifié par Garrison2009, 30 juin 2011 - 05:42 .

[Garrison2009]

ThePwener wrote...

Like I said.... amazing. Just because that dictionary has only one definition... that makes it the only one. Amazing.

EDIT: Supremacism is the belief to be superior to another.

There, discussion over, throw your webster at me all you want. Im leaving before Godwyn's law happens.

Supremacism, huh? This is also the belief that you are superior to another, and while it has a different title, has the exact same definition as just plain'ol racism. Your argument grows weak as (once again) Ashley said that she did not believe that we were superior to the Council or non-Council races.

Modifié par Garrison2009, 30 juin 2011 - 05:45 .

[SamTheSalarian]

Garrison2009 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Definition of Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various races determine cultural or individual achievment, usually involving the idea that ones own race is superior and has the right to rule over others.

Now, does what she says exactly fit the mold of racism as per the definition above (Which you are more than welcome to look up online)?? No. It does not.

Where? Wikipedia? Amazing. There are many forms of racism kid, not just the superiority complex.

Many forms of racism? Excuse me? You just showed your true colors there. You might as well say there are many answers to the problem 2+2. No, there is only one kind of racism and that is the racism that I gave the definition for above.

And no I didnt look it up on Wikipedia for your information as that site has a tendency to be innacurate quite often. I got the definition from a 1984 Webster's Dictionary which I happen to own.

Bigotry, prejudice, and discrimination are often seen as different forms of racism, but can also stand on thier own without being associated with racism. So...yeah there are many ways to interperate racism.

By the way let's try not to hate, just passionatly debate.
Just because someone dosen't like fictional alien races dosen't mean they are racist.
 They're alienist.

Modifié par SamTheSalarian, 30 juin 2011 - 05:49 .

[ThePwener]

Fine, be like that then, you'll just keep denying everything I say. Your sarcasm isn't cute btw

[ThePwener]

SamTheSalarian wrote...

They're alienist.

The correct word is "Xenophobia" or "Xenophobe".

[Made Nightwing]

From my point of view Tali IS more racist than Ashley, as she DOES think the geth are inferior to the quarians. However, this is from complete lack of experience dealing with geth, just like Ashley's own suspicion is based on lack of experience with aliens.

[Garrison2009]

ThePwener wrote...

Fine, be like that then, you'll just keep denying everything I say. Your sarcasm isn't cute btw

Neither was yours earlier. I asked you to put forward your list of the different kinds of racism and you have not, which  leaves me only with the conclusion that you can not backup your statement that there are many different kinds of racism and said statement is thus false.

[ThePwener]

Made Nightwing wrote...

From my point of view Tali IS more racist than Ashley, as she DOES think the geth are inferior to the quarians. However, this is from complete lack of experience dealing with geth, just like Ashley's own suspicion is based on lack of experience with aliens.

And you just made both of our arguments invalid. Good work sir.

[SamTheSalarian]

ThePwener wrote...

SamTheSalarian wrote...

They're alienist.

The correct word is "Xenophobia" or "Xenophobe".

That was a joke.

[Garrison2009]

SamTheSalarian wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Definition of Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various races determine cultural or individual achievment, usually involving the idea that ones own race is superior and has the right to rule over others.

Now, does what she says exactly fit the mold of racism as per the definition above (Which you are more than welcome to look up online)?? No. It does not.

Where? Wikipedia? Amazing. There are many forms of racism kid, not just the superiority complex.

Many forms of racism? Excuse me? You just showed your true colors there. You might as well say there are many answers to the problem 2+2. No, there is only one kind of racism and that is the racism that I gave the definition for above.

And no I didnt look it up on Wikipedia for your information as that site has a tendency to be innacurate quite often. I got the definition from a 1984 Webster's Dictionary which I happen to own.

Bigotry, prejudice, and discrimination are often seen as different forms of racism, but can also stand on thier own without being associated with racism. So...yeah there are many ways to interperate racism.

By the way let's try not to hate, just passionatly debate.
Just because someone dosen't like fictional alien races dosen't mean they are racist.
 They're alienist.

No bigotry, prejiduce and discrimination are what rcaism is comprised of and not 'different kinds' of racism. Besides, all three of those mean prctically the same thing, proving my point once again.

[Garrison2009]

Made Nightwing wrote...

From my point of view Tali IS more racist than Ashley, as she DOES think the geth are inferior to the quarians. However, this is from complete lack of experience dealing with geth, just like Ashley's own suspicion is based on lack of experience with aliens.

And of course, you are correct. Both Tali and Ashley's distrust of aliens/the geth stem from inexperience with them, not because they hold themselves above them (Though Tali, going from this, does kind of hold herself above the Geth).

[ThePwener]

Garrison2009 wrote...

Neither was yours earlier. I asked you to put forward your list of the different kinds of racism and you have not, which  leaves me only with the conclusion that you can not backup your statement that there are many different kinds of racism and said statement is thus false.

Or I just don't care about this discussion that much because I won't die if I don't respond.... like you apperantly would. Where do you think I got Supremacism from? A list, duh.

Modifié par ThePwener, 30 juin 2011 - 05:58 .

[Some Dude]

Lol the internet is the only place where you can find two guys arguing about what the definition of racism is.

[ThePwener]

Garrison2009 wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

From my point of view Tali IS more racist than Ashley, as she DOES think the geth are inferior to the quarians. However, this is from complete lack of experience dealing with geth, just like Ashley's own suspicion is based on lack of experience with aliens.

And of course, you are correct. Both Tali and Ashley's distrust of aliens/the geth stem from inexperience with them, not because they hold themselves above them (Though Tali, going from this, does kind of hold herself above the Geth).

Technically, the creator is always superior.

God made us, so he KNOWS and IS superior to us.

[ThePwener]

Some Dude wrote...

Lol the internet is the only place where you can find two guys arguing about what the definition of racism is.

YOU KNOW IT!!!

[Garrison2009]

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Neither was yours earlier. I asked you to put forward your list of the different kinds of racism and you have not, which  leaves me only with the conclusion that you can not backup your statement that there are many different kinds of racism and said statement is thus false.

Or I just don't care about this discussion that much because your a jerk and I won't die if I don't respond.... like you apperantly would. Where do you think I got Supremacism from? A list, duh.

Then where is the rest of this list? Please post it.

Edit: And you are more than wlecome to not respond if you do not wish to. I for one could care less.

Modifié par Garrison2009, 30 juin 2011 - 05:59 .

[ThePwener]

Garrison2009 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Neither was yours earlier. I asked you to put forward your list of the different kinds of racism and you have not, which  leaves me only with the conclusion that you can not backup your statement that there are many different kinds of racism and said statement is thus false.

Or I just don't care about this discussion that much because your a jerk and I won't die if I don't respond.... like you apperantly would. Where do you think I got Supremacism from? A list, duh.

Then where is the rest of this list? Please post it.

Wait, Im trying to refind the wikipedia list. Huzzah!!! lol

Okay, here it is.

http://en.wikipedia....types_of_racism

Yes, it's wikipedia, but it isn't always wrong... and I can't find my dictionary.

Modifié par ThePwener, 30 juin 2011 - 06:00 .

[SamTheSalarian]

Garrison2009 wrote...

SamTheSalarian wrote...

Bigotry, prejudice, and discrimination are often seen as different forms of racism, but can also stand on thier own without being associated with racism. So...yeah there are many ways to interperate racism.

By the way let's try not to hate, just passionatly debate.
Just because someone dosen't like fictional alien races dosen't mean they are racist.
 They're alienist.

No bigotry, prejiduce and discrimination are what rcaism is comprised of and not 'different kinds' of racism. Besides, all three of those mean prctically the same thing, proving my point once again.

I might not have worded this the way I intended,  so forgive me if I didn't state this clearer.

What i men was YES, those are elements of 'racism', but thay can also stand alone for things other than race, such as: sex, sexual orientation, social status, size, age, etc.

[Garrison2009]

SamTheSalarian wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

SamTheSalarian wrote...

Bigotry, prejudice, and discrimination are often seen as different forms of racism, but can also stand on thier own without being associated with racism. So...yeah there are many ways to interperate racism.

By the way let's try not to hate, just passionatly debate.
Just because someone dosen't like fictional alien races dosen't mean they are racist.
 They're alienist.

No bigotry, prejiduce and discrimination are what rcaism is comprised of and not 'different kinds' of racism. Besides, all three of those mean prctically the same thing, proving my point once again.

I might not have worded this the way I intended,  so forgive me if I didn't state this clearer.

What i men was YES, those are elements of 'racism', but thay can also stand alone for things other than race, such as: sex, sexual orientation, social status, size, age, etc.

True, but if they do apply to anything other than being prejiduced, bigoted, or discriminatory against another race, then it is no longer racism and does not apply.

[Garrison2009]

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Neither was yours earlier. I asked you to put forward your list of the different kinds of racism and you have not, which  leaves me only with the conclusion that you can not backup your statement that there are many different kinds of racism and said statement is thus false.

Or I just don't care about this discussion that much because your a jerk and I won't die if I don't respond.... like you apperantly would. Where do you think I got Supremacism from? A list, duh.

Then where is the rest of this list? Please post it.

Wait, Im trying to refind the wikipedia list. Huzzah!!! lol

Okay, here it is.

http://en.wikipedia....types_of_racism

Yes, it's wikipedia, but it isn't always wrong... and I can't find my dictionary.

All of the 'types' of racism shown in this list all share the belief that a particular race or group is held above another, once again showing that ultimately there is only one type of racism, call it what you will.

Anti-Semitism, Black Supremacy, White Supremacy.. they are all the same and Ashley does nto fit into any of them. Granted we're talking about extra-terrestrials and not our own race but the basic rules still apply.

Modifié par Garrison2009, 30 juin 2011 - 06:08 .

[ThePwener]

Maybe... but ash is still a racist. How did we end up here anyway?