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[Eamon696]

My theory:

At the beginning of ME3, TIM is not an enemy to shepard yet.  However I believe that as soon he sees the destruction brought upon by the reapers unto Earth, he realized that any resistance or war with the reapers is futile.  Since Cerberus are for the advancement and survival of the human race, they feel that in order for Humanity to survive they must work with the reapers.  
When Shepard begins to work with the other races to beat back the reapers, Cerberus may feel this jeopardizes their plans, and attacks Shepard to assure it works, aswell as to prove to the reapers that humanity should survive.
Just my thoughts: Have any comments/ suggestions for my theory?

[shadowreflexion]

Eamon696 wrote...

My theory:

At the beginning of ME3, TIM is not an enemy to shepard yet.  However I believe that as soon he sees the destruction brought upon by the reapers unto Earth, he realized that any resistance or war with the reapers is futile.  Since Cerberus are for the advancement and survival of the human race, they feel that in order for Humanity to survive they must work with the reapers.  
When Shepard begins to work with the other races to beat back the reapers, Cerberus may feel this jeopardizes their plans, and attacks Shepard to assure it works, aswell as to prove to the reapers that humanity should survive.
Just my thoughts: Have any comments/ suggestions for my theory?

Pretty decent theory but I still hold to the wait and see mentality. If for what ever reason Cerberus is against my actions, all I know is that my mattock is answering any questions.

[does this unit]

they wouldnt use that agin. thats why saren was working with the reapers. although i could be wrong...

[bobthecrusher]

I personally think that TIM is jusdt a control freak, with plans to wipe out all other species in the galaxy (or at least put them down to servant status)

he thinks that the reapers can easily be defeated, that they don't need Shepard any more, and that he is an unpredictable pawn that is just getting in the way. He's done his job of stopping the reaper's plan with the collectors, and now TIM 'only wants him gone'

[marshalleck]

Seems like everyone's own special theory is always the same thing over and over.

Modifié par marshalleck, 26 juin 2011 - 05:33 .

[VegasVance]

marshalleck wrote...

Seems like everyone's own special theory is always the same thing over and over.

TIM installed Reaper legs into Joker, who discovers from EDI where he is hiding and procedes to assassinate him and take his identity.  After doing so Joker decides it is time for Shep to pay for all his insensitve jokes and sics the Reapers on him.  

Now that is orginal if nothing else :happy: 

[BlueMagitek]

Actually TIM just gets annoyed after Shepard steals his bacon (renegade for life!) so he sends his agents to track him down. Shepard, being paranoid (what with the giant mechanical gods that want to consume him is quite understandable), believes they're trying to kill him and fires the first shot.

So this is mostly Shepard's fault, really.

[Bogsnot1]

^ Incorrect. Its because Shep plays a prank on TIM and replaces all of his cigarettes with menthols.

[Praetor Knight]

I thought it was because Shepard makes fun of how the word humanity is pronounced by TIM

[BlueMagitek]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

^ Incorrect. Its because Shep plays a prank on TIM and replaces all of his cigarettes with menthols.

Nah, it was totally the bacon thing.  Do you know how hard it is to get good old fashion pork in space?  Space tobacco is far more plentiful.

[VegasVance]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

^ Incorrect. Its because Shep plays a prank on TIM and replaces all of his cigarettes with menthols.

Please. 

Everybody knows that the coolest man in the galaxy smokes menthols.

[Colintastic]

Why can't it just be a simple case of indoctrination? TIM gets too close, boom, caught up in it. If you left the collector base intact, there's your tie in. If you didn't I'm sure he'll find some other way.

[Spectre_907]

Redundancy. We had that already with Saren. That would be boring and it would go against TIM's motives in ME2. I'd prefer it if the Illusive Man had his own reasons for turning on Shepard.

Modifié par Spectre_907, 26 juin 2011 - 08:08 .

[Rip504]

My theory is Cerberus will be the bad guy in ME3. Because I want to kill them. Yep sorry fans. Blame me not Bioware. I asked Bioware to let me Kill Cerberus as an enemy in ME3 and they tailored to me personally. So I will take all of the blame. Reaper(RIP) Indoctrination. A mindless mindset to kill Shepard for no beneficial reason. Just because the Reapers control them and want Shepard dead. It is easier for humans to surprise attack Shepard. And Cerberus deserves it in my opinion.TIM cut a deal for Human/Cerberus/TIM contol and got it. Though He is now contoled by the Reapers. Excuse me. They are attempting to get it.(Control of the galaxy.) So yes You can blame me (Rip504),and negative Rep me if you like. I am honestly glad I get to kill stuff,not just Cerberus.

Modifié par Rip504, 26 juin 2011 - 08:32 .

[Repearized Miranda]

I think Cerberus has turned, but have they? Yeah, we get to fight them now, but haven't they always been the bad guy since ME1? They just don't show up until ME2. (TIM, Miranda, Jacob) Not to mention the increased venom, but it's not as if it was just then being spewed. But they were always hated. This isn't like the Reapers where the Council/Alliance goes: "How stupid do you think we are?" Only to still ask that after some major stuff has gone down and this has happened twice!

[Dannyboy9876]

Shep took a sandwich out of the fridge and ate it, blatantly ignoting the note; "Tim's samwich :3 MINE", attached to it.

[Repearized Miranda]

Dannyboy9876 wrote...

Shep took a sandwich out of the fridge and ate it, blatantly ignoting the note; "Tim's samwich :3 MINE", attached to it.

Maybe Shep wrote it; therefore, the sandwich is in fact, Shep's!

[VegasVance]

Spectre_907 wrote...

Redundancy. We had that already with Saren. That would be boring and it would go against TIM's motives in ME2. I'd prefer it if the Illusive Man had his own reasons for turning on Shepard.

Oh I got it, TIM's "reaper eyes" are failing so he plans on taking Shep's, so he can enjoy staring out that window for longer. 

[OdanUrr]

I don't think TIM is stupid enough to believe that if they work for the Reapers, they'll be spared.

[Repearized Miranda]

OdanUrr wrote...

I don't think TIM is stupid enough to believe that if they work for the Reapers, they'll be spared.

No, he isn't! He's probably anticipanting a double-cross as is his "allegiance!"

That'd be like a Renegade not anticipating TIM double-crossing him/her - which he's done quite a few times! Like him, Shepard, while lacking morals, doesn't lack intelligence.

[Lumikki]

Eamon696 wrote...

My theory:

At the beginning of ME3, TIM is not an enemy to shepard yet.  However I believe that as soon he sees the destruction brought upon by the reapers unto Earth, he realized that any resistance or war with the reapers is futile.  Since Cerberus are for the advancement and survival of the human race, they feel that in order for Humanity to survive they must work with the reapers.  
When Shepard begins to work with the other races to beat back the reapers, Cerberus may feel this jeopardizes their plans, and attacks Shepard to assure it works, aswell as to prove to the reapers that humanity should survive.

Just my thoughts: Have any comments/ suggestions for my theory?

It's fine teory based idea for TIM working for Reapers, fake or real reasons.

Here is other based TIM doesn't work for reapers...

TIM has to have weapon what kills reapers 100% guarantee or way to get one. Other ways TIM's actions doesn't make any sense at all when not sided by reapers. Because you don't kill your enemy's enemy, unless you can also kill your enemy. This also means TIM doesn't try to stop reapers, because TIM wants everyone else in galaxy to die and Shepard is the obstacle what needs to be removed to this happen. Then after Reapers has killed other races, TIM kills reapers and guarantee TIM's people the dominate of galaxy. So, hole story is basicly Shepards trying to unite galaxy, while TIM trying to stop Shepards and in the end Shepards kills TIM and take or create the 100% guarantee weapon and kills the reapers.

Modifié par Lumikki, 26 juin 2011 - 05:36 .

[Grissium]

One word people - indoctrination. The most recent book proves that he is experimenting with stuff he knows nothing about. If the Reapers represent the Cthulhu Mythos, then dabbling with things that Man Was Not Meant to Know is going to turn you into a cultist.

Besides if I was a reaper first thing I would do is gun for Cerberus. There the reason Shepard came back from the dead. They gave him the ****in ship that took out the Collectors. From a Reaper point of view they pretty much made it possible for Shep to be such a raging badass in part 2. Remove them from the picture, followed by Earth, and what is Shepard left with.... being the magnetic hero and turning the rest of the fraking galaxy against the Reapers thats what.

[Repearized Miranda]

^ I don't think it's that people disagree with that theory. It's moreso that it's "too contrived" and they could have come up with something better (game-wise, not lore-wise; yet, people expect adaptations to follow exactly the source it was adapted from. Now, if that happened, regardless of medium, how could it be considered an adaptation?)

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 26 juin 2011 - 06:21 .

[ObserverStatus]

My theory: Cerberus is deep under cover. They're just pretending to work with the reapers to gain their trust so they can get close enough to them to deliver a crippling blow.