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Why is no one who was only in me2 coming back?


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according to wikia no one other than garrus and tali will be in me3.

If Garrus Vakarian and Tali'Zorah vas Normandy survived, they will be available as squad members. If Jack[4], Jacob Taylor[5], Legion[3], Mordin Solus[3][4], Miranda Lawson[5], Thane Krios[6], and Zaeed Massani[6] survived, they will appear in some capacity.

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...?

Well the wiki is wrong then. Sucks to be them. 

Modifié par VegasVance, 26 juin 2011 - 06:31 .


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Not as popular. Though I'm still skeptical about Tali coming back.

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VegasVance wrote...

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Well the wiki is wrong then. Sucks to be them. 

its not wiki

wits wikia.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Not as popular. Though I'm still skeptical about Tali coming back.

UMM so mordin was not popular or grunt really?

and we are going off populartity why is wrex no in the squad.

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Well at the end of the day it would cost a lot of time and resources to make every squadmate come back. It limits what the team can do because they always need an alternative if they're dead.

Bioware only has so much time and money.

When you're a little older you'll understand.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Well at the end of the day it would cost a lot of time and resources to make every squadmate come back. It limits what the team can do because they always need an alternative if they're dead.

Bioware only has so much time and money.
When you're a little older you'll understand.

Im 19 and living on my own i under stand. That does not change the fact im asking why no one from me2. I rather have mix it just seems like me1 squad all over.

I dont like it at all i feel like letting garrus and tali die just to see what happens will i get replacments. or only 4 squad members.

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It has not yet been confirmed if they will be squad members. We can only have fewer squadmates than in ME2. So we may not get everyone in the team but we will see them.

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Shadedclan wrote...

It has not yet been confirmed if they will be squad members. We can only have fewer squadmates than in ME2. So we may not get everyone in the team but we will see them.

Are they refering to with or without dlc how many are without dlc i forget is it like 10?

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xnoxiousx wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

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Well the wiki is wrong then. Sucks to be them. 

its not wiki

wits wikia.


I don't care could be the pope:whistle: 
Mordin is back, those of us who still survive will show up in some capacity. 

As for them coming back as squad-mates, it's Bioware's game voices are probably done by this point, as well as most of the plot and I'd rather Grunt be left out than shoved into the game last minute.  

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I don't know. I think there is a chance most to become atleast temp squad mate.

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Watch some of the e-3 gameplay vids mordin is there as well as Ash and captain Anderson is running around shooting Cerberus with you. Sooooooooo......

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xnoxiousx wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well at the end of the day it would cost a lot of time and resources to make every squadmate come back. It limits what the team can do because they always need an alternative if they're dead.

Bioware only has so much time and money.
When you're a little older you'll understand.

Im 19 and living on my own i under stand. That does not change the fact im asking why no one from me2. I rather have mix it just seems like me1 squad all over.

I dont like it at all i feel like letting garrus and tali die just to see what happens will i get replacments. or only 4 squad members.


When someone challenges your age like that you don't go and rattle yours off mate. You just play into the immaturity card.

However to answer you question, its not that no one from ME2 is NOT coming back, but that WE HAVE NO INFO. There is still Eight monts of development left until ME3. Not only that, but recent information seems to say that their might not be a stable, permenant squad to hold onto in the game.

So as such, the answer to you question is that we don't know.

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Watch some of the e-3 gameplay vids mordin is there as well as Ash and captain Anderson is running around shooting Cerberus with you. Sooooooooo......

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Given the fact that they not only doubled the number of squadmates, Shep can gain in ME2, but also made every single one of them capable of dying  Image IPB, I'd say BioWare has their work cut out for them.

As far as an answer to the OP's question - hopefully they'll give more info on the subject as we get closer to the release date. But they have already stated, IIRC, that some of the characters have plot-related scenarios, with their involvement in ME3, so they're keeping it underwraps for now.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Well at the end of the day it would cost a lot of time and resources to make every squadmate come back. It limits what the team can do because they always need an alternative if they're dead.

Bioware only has so much time and money.

When you're a little older you'll understand.

Must you be an ass about everything Saphra?

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Well, with all talks about Jack being redesigned I think she will return as permanent. It will be strange to put much resources in cameo or temporary ally. So count at least one ME2 char.
I personally think all LI are returning... at least it will be fair to fanbases.

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Jack is going to come that is almost for sure, because she was a li candidate in ME2. The question isn't whether many NPC are going to appear but instead of this whether they will complete squadmates in the battle and not just cameoing at sometime.
As Jack seems to stand out a little bit in ME2 I would guess that she is going to be at Shepard's side for some time in order to tell her story to the end and show her character developement.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Well at the end of the day it would cost a lot of time and resources to make every squadmate come back. It limits what the team can do because they always need an alternative if they're dead.

Bioware only has so much time and money.

When you're a little older you'll understand.


Age has nothing to do with it, actually.
All it takes is knowledge of what it takes to make a game. At least to some degree.

A child can understand why they only received one present on their birthday. Though, that doesn't mean they won't whine about it. ( Ex. Change in release date. Some gamers may rage about it, but most of them know why it was pushed back. )

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mineralica wrote...

Well, with all talks about Jack being redesigned I think she will return as permanent. It will be strange to put much resources in cameo or temporary ally. So count at least one ME2 char.
I personally think all LI are returning... at least it will be fair to fanbases.

It makes more sense for Miranda to return a full timer.

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Well I see it being quite simple. Tali, Garrus, Liara and Ashley/Kaidan were all already in ME1. That means that they all have had previous history with Shep. It would make so much more sense to use these characters as the most permanent. There are already so many existing issues between these characters and Shep that it would really good idea to explore and deepen these relationships. No of the other ME2 characters have this depth part in their relation to Shep, so they are just temporary characters. And that's exactly what BW seems to be planning.

Also let's face it, this is trilogy and all of those tend to emphasize characters from the first part. And it's not surprise, because usually it was those characters, which made the story success, so it would make sense to further explore their stories and interaction with each others. And while some new characters in sequels might become popular, they will rarely got equal role with those original characters. Usually they just stays in supporting role. And BW seems to follow this idea, because most new ME2 characters seems to in supporting role in ME3.

There are already so many existing issues between these characters and Shep.

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Jack was gonna "cut loose" after the mission,Jacob and Miranda work for Cerberus(so they might go back after Shepard severs his ties there) Thane's dying(I'm assuming he'd leave to be with Kolyat) and Zaeed was just being paid to kill the collectors...

So it makes sense those ones wouldn't be serving Shepard,It's Mordin and Legion of those ones that I'm wondering why they wouldn't be there.

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xnoxiousx wrote...

UMM so mordin was not popular or grunt really?

and we are going off populartity why is wrex no in the squad.


Your murder of the English language aside (how hard is it to properly structure a sentence, "why is wrex no in the squad"? really? I mean seriously) Wrex is busy running Clan Urdnot and working to combine all the clans on Tuchanka. Considering the Krogan's nature of being an aggressive clan based society, bringing them all under one banner is a serious undertaking so he's probably too busy to go running off with Shepard.

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All I can say is that if they sideline the ME2-only LIs in any way I'll be mightily pissed off. And I guess that goes for all their fans. My appreciation of ME3 will depends to a significant degree on the screen presence of my preferred characters. That includes some from ME1 (Ashley/Kaidan, Liara), but also some of ME2 (Miranda, Jacob).

I'd be especially annoyed if Garrus and Tali get a big presence again in their third game and the ME2-only LIs only get a token one-mission presence. I wouldn't forgive Bioware that any time soon, and it would influence my appreciation of their future games.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

All I can say is that if they sideline the ME2-only LIs in any way I'll be mightily pissed off. And I guess that goes for all their fans. My appreciation of ME3 will depends to a significant degree on the screen presence of my preferred characters. That includes some from ME1 (Ashley/Kaidan, Liara), but also some of ME2 (Miranda, Jacob).

I'd be especially annoyed if Garrus and Tali get a big presence again in their third game and the ME2-only LIs only get a token one-mission presence. I wouldn't forgive Bioware that any time soon, and it would influence my appreciation of their future games.


Couldn't agree more, plus there has to be some real consequences to the SM at the end of me2 otherwise what the hell was the point.

Bringing back at a minimum 1 or 2 me2 specific characters as full squadmates is to me the barest requirement from bioware. The permanent squad needs to be a mixture of me1 and me2 characters or else its screwing over fans of me2 completely, while i'm personally a big fan of the me1 crew some people are not and preferred the me2 one so they too need to have some proper closure with characters they like.

At times statements that bioware make are so vague and confusing regarding this issue it makes me feel that they already know they're going screw with people and are just waiting until the last possible time to say so. Yes they created a situation where people could die but they also created a situation where all or most could live and both of these scenarios deserve the proper level of attention.

If it was too hard or too costly to implement bringing some or all of the me2 specific crew back in full roles then bioware should have A. not made any of them LI's and B. made it pretty damn clear that this was a one mission thing for all of the characters, that once you finished the SM you were back on your own or hell even go with non escapable deaths so there could be no confusion whatsoever.

The simplest truth is they didn't go this route, they intentionally made some characters LI's, they intentionally left room in their storylines for them to return, they never had characters say that they would be leaving once the SM was finished (yes some characters suggested it but only if you play a certain way) and they kept away from unavoidable death scenes instead making them a result of how you play.

The fact they did all of this should mean they have an obligation to do the work, spend the money and follow through correctly and not take the easy choice of characters who could die means smaller non full squadmate rolls, you reap what you sow and bioware have sowed plenty.

This could be the biggest failing in me3 and something if not handled correctly would mean a loss of even more fans of both Mass effect and Bioware.