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[rwilli80]

This is just a hypotetical question I am possing to the forum. Would you be upset if Bioware included an ending to ME3 where no matter what you did you failed to stop the Reapers?

I think it would be interesting and a funny little achievement for failure, sorta like I believe there is one in CoD about killing yourself with your own grenade or something like that. Now I know a lot of people would be pissed because they played so many hours just to fail, but if you make every wrong choice shouldn't you be credited with failure and the loss of Earth?

Also isn't that weird, the whole series your concerned with the galaxy and now all of a sudden it seems your main focus is saving Earth, not as grand a scale as the original concept.

[Raygereio]

No. After all they included a similar thing in ME2 with the "everyone dies"-ending.
As long as the resulting failure is the obvious result of my actions, I'm fine with not winning. I would start to have problem with it if the connection between action and result isn't clear; for example a seemingly trivial choice, or one that doesn't seem to be directly connected to whatever I'm not succeding at, comming back to bite you in the posterior can easily become frustrating instead of invoking a "Wow, something I do matters in this railroad?"-feeling.

Modifié par Raygereio, 26 juin 2011 - 09:49 .

[alihou]

I don't think our choices in previous games will effect the end game so to speak... It might make it more challenging or easier...we do have choice in Mass Effect, but sometimes it is also the "illusion of choice"...

[Bocks]

This is a REAPER INVASION we're talking about. Victory should be something hard to achieve, so yes. Plus, it promotes replayability.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

If that's the only ending, then yes, I will be upset. Since it's not likely, no.    As ugly as it will be, if it's available, I will play the game to that end.  

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Upset if such an ending existed?

HELL NO

To put it in context, would I be upset if it isn't one of the possible endings?

OH HELL YEAH!

Just to add to that, I'd also be upset if getting said ending required the player to really go out of there way to get it ala Suicide Mission Shep death ending was.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 26 juin 2011 - 10:08 .

[GamerJ]

a worse possible ending, harbinger explode and the reapers died and everyone yells yes the galaxy is saved a happy song plays and the end shows up, or shepard comes in contact with harbinger and he said it was a miss understanding and they want to be friends with organics x_x the end
if it ends like this i going to eat my mass effect 3 cd out of fustration lol

[alihou]

GamerJ wrote...

a worse possible ending, harbinger explode and the reapers died and everyone yells yes the galaxy is saved a happy song plays and the end shows up, or shepard comes in contact with harbinger and he said it was a miss understanding and they want to be friends with organics x_x the end
if it ends like this i going to eat my mass effect 3 cd out of fustration lol

Hahaha... you better put it on youtube... ... I'd like to see you eat it...

[rwilli80]

Thanks for all the responses guys, I just think it would add a little something.

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Upset if such an ending existed?

HELL NO

To put it in context, would I be upset if it isn't one of the possible endings?

OH HELL YEAH!

Just to add to that, I'd also be upset if getting said ending required the player to really go out of there way to get it ala Suicide Mission Shep death ending was.

Really, you've had that happen, I've heard that Shep can die at the end of 2, but all my play throughs I can never get it to happen even when I thought I was totally mucking it up.

[Brand New]

To be honest. I think that we will not completely defeat the Reapers, but in more story like text after the end we will say that we had destroyed the Reapers.
I wouldn't even be mad if the Reapers won and we got to see all that was behind them, but I know we
d leave some crazy evidence or something behind for the next civilization.

The only way I'd be mad is that if it was a really corny battle where like we fought like a giant reaper it was like the Reaper hive mind and they all dispersed or some BS.
Perhaps we could destroy a relay when they come through it or something of that nature to destroy them all at once. Like self destruct the Citadel or something.

[Soap1888]

I would be amazed if there wasn't a "mankind fails" ending.

[zeoduos]

I believe that a Failure ending is necessary but it has to be something you purposely work for just like your whole crew and Shepard dying.

The reason I say this is because if all paths we took led to a successful outcome, it would feel as if the Reapers were never such a big threat to begin with. The Reaper threat has to feel real and a great way of emphasizing that threat is to allow a Reapers win and harvest everything ending.

[Someone With Mass]

The bad end is when the Reapers wins and continues their cycle until the Andromeda galaxy devours the Milky Way in a few billion years.

[CaribbeanCLANK]

I would be disappointed if BioWare allowed us to totally defeat the Reapers in Mass Effect 3. I know they said that the games were intended to be a trilogy but I think saving Earth from total destruction and forming stronger alliances across the galaxy are more realistic goals for a single game. That's just my opinion.

[Mixon]

cmon guys, we fighting them for 3 parts and no clean win? As for me the 2 part with galactic core jump and battle inside it was the most epic with black hole and kwazar, i wonder what epic places we will see in the end of ME3...

[XX55XX]

I wouldn't mind a defeat forced upon me. After all, you are talking about an unstoppable force of starships hellbent on genocide. It would make popcorn taste sweeter as I watch the credits roll...

[FrozenShadow]

I sure wouldn't mind a defeat ending. There actually have to be one to make it realistic.

Now if the failure is only ending, then I would be mad.

[SennenScale]

Of course there should be a fail ending. As long as it isn't the only ending, or every ending is just degrees of failure.

[Time4Tiddy]

rwilli80 wrote...

Really, you've had that happen, I've heard that Shep can die at the end of 2, but all my play throughs I can never get it to happen even when I thought I was totally mucking it up.

It's pretty hard to do.  You need to end with only one (or none) out of your entire team alive after killing the Reaper.  You need at least two people left alive to help pull you into the shuttle or you will fall to your death.

If you want to see the death ending, you can actually run through to it pretty quickly since you won't be doing any of the loyalty missions and you won't upgrade the ship.  If the ship isn't upgraded at all, three people will die when you go through the relay.  Then pick a poor leader for your second team and your tech will die in the vents (or just pick a non-techie).  Send a non-loyal team member back with the crew and that person will die.  Pick a weak biotic for your bubble and lose another team member.  If you take two people who are not loyal to the final reaper fight they will both die.  At this point you only have five to go, fewer if you picked another poor leader for the distraction team.  The team "holding the line" during the reaper fight needs strong defenders (Garrus, Grunt, Zaeed) so take two of them with you to the endboss (non-loyal so they die).  This should result in another two or three dying during the defense and you should have only one or none left for the final escape sequence.

[zeoduos]

I think many are missing the point here. This failure ending would be something you'd have to intentionally work towards.

Again, going back to ME2, this would mean not recruiting everyone/not doing any loyalty missions/not upgrading your ship. Those are things that you'd almost have to miss intentionally.

In ME3, it could be something like Shepard not being able to convince the alien races to help (and again this would have to be done intentionally). Since you have no one backing you up, you go in simply with the Alliance forces and you lose.

[kaiki01]

rwilli80 wrote...

This is just a hypotetical question I am possing to the forum. Would you be upset if Bioware included an ending to ME3 where no matter what you did you failed to stop the Reapers?

If that was the ONLY ending, that would be poor design. If it was ONE possible ending, that would be very welcome.

[Time4Tiddy]

rwilli80 wrote...

Also isn't that weird, the whole series your concerned with the galaxy and now all of a sudden it seems your main focus is saving Earth, not as grand a scale as the original concept.

Actually I think they've done a pretty good job through the first two games of keeping a strong focus on the role of humans in the galactic civilization, the conflict between being true to humanity's needs while working towards cooperation, human supremacists, and even the reasons why humans are of particular interest to the reapers.  Making the focus of ME3 on saving Earth allows for those who chose human-centric/xenophobic options all the way through to still have a vested stake, and I'm sure saving Earth will be only part of the larger save the galaxy situation.

[HunterX6]

I would like a failure ending where the reapers win and they start going world by world destroying every planet by orbit and/or "harvesting" it with a epic song like this: 

Modifié par HunterX6, 27 juin 2011 - 03:06 .

[Darth Wolfenbarg]

zeoduos wrote...

I think many are missing the point here. This failure ending would be something you'd have to intentionally work towards.

Again, going back to ME2, this would mean not recruiting everyone/not doing any loyalty missions/not upgrading your ship. Those are things that you'd almost have to miss intentionally.

In ME3, it could be something like Shepard not being able to convince the alien races to help (and again this would have to be done intentionally). Since you have no one backing you up, you go in simply with the Alliance forces and you lose.

So the galaxy will die, but only if you want it to. Oh, I'm really on the edge of my seat now!