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Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. (Zaeed support thread)


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He's already one of the bigger bright spots of ME2 as far as I'm concerned, so the more the merrier. Make it bigger! Make it brighter!

Zaeed's the kind of guy I'd buy a beer for in some backwater bar just to listen to him tell me his story.

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Zaeed was my 2nd favorite overall character in ME2, definitely the squadmate I want to have around when the crap gets really tough and out of control, and that seems to be the case in ME3.

I demand a return of Zaeed Massani in Mass Effect 3, do you hear me Bioware?

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JeffZero wrote...

He's already one of the bigger bright spots of ME2 as far as I'm concerned, so the more the merrier. Make it bigger! Make it brighter!

Zaeed's the kind of guy I'd buy a beer for in some backwater bar just to listen to him tell me his story.


Indeed, he's the real leading man to me. I used him for like 90-95% of the game in most of my playthroughs.

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Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...

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Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...


Be a pal and let him have his revenge.

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Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...


Be a pal and let him have his revenge.


I agree.

I didn't fully appreciate Zaeed until I took him on other squaddies' loyalty missions (Jack's in particular, along with Garrus'). I love his "way"; I'm not sure how else to explain it. The more missions I take him on, the more I like him. Image IPB

Modifié par happy_daiz, 26 septembre 2011 - 11:06 .


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Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...


Be a pal and let him have his revenge.

I'd be more willing if it involved less death.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...


Be a pal and let him have his revenge.

I'd be more willing if it involved less death.


Vido already killed a bunch of workers, you're preventing him from killing more in the future by taking him out!

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Xilizhra

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Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...


Be a pal and let him have his revenge.

I'd be more willing if it involved less death.


Vido already killed a bunch of workers, you're preventing him from killing more in the future by taking him out!

Maybe. Maybe someone else will instantly step into line and start killing workers again. Maybe it'll start a gang war that kills a lot of Blue Suns, maybe it'll start one that kills them plus a lot of innocents. I don't and can't know. What I do know is whom I can save, here and now, and what I'll do about that.

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My Shep was a paragon, and still loved Zaeed. I didn't let him go after Vido in his loyalty quest. (I'm mean, I know.) He was mad- we fought, we made up. He was still my right-hand man. Best part of ME2 for me.

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Miss Greyjoy wrote...

My Shep was a paragon, and still loved Zaeed. I didn't let him go after Vido in his loyalty quest. (I'm mean, I know.) He was mad- we fought, we made up. He was still my right-hand man. Best part of ME2 for me.


My Shepard submited to Zaeed's will when it came to Vido. <3

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My current Paragade Shep has Zaeed by his side 90% of the time....Between his Squad Incidery Ammo and Zaeeds Inferno Grenades, this Shep is getting a real kick out of watching the world burn....:devil:

Modifié par Golden Owl, 27 septembre 2011 - 02:05 .


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my shep didn't really care. If that worker couldn't save his own friends, why should I alienate one of mine?

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From a meta perspective my boy Zaeed wanting Vido dead is all the reason I need.

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LONE108 wrote...

So he picked himself up and dusted off then ploted for 20 yrs to get Vido, when the Blue Suns are every were in the Terminis system. How hard could it have been to track him down, being a ex-Merc/Bounty Hunter of his caliber. I dont know what Bioware's plans are for Zaeed but it just sounded more interesting to have Zaeed as the first candidate for the Lazarus Project seeing as it took them 2yrs to bring back Shepard it could've taken decades for the first attempt. Would have made a great betrayal story for ME3, if Zaeed was still endebted to Cerberus to either kill or bring Shepard in to the Illusive Man if Shepard ever went against Cerberus. As you can tell i've thought about this alot and Zaeed is still cool even though i dont trust him.

No one told me about this Kai Leng person from the novels. A top cerberus assassin who's coming after Shephard in ME3. This ruins my whole scenario, oh well i guess my Shep owes Zaeed a drink after all.

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Skirata129 wrote...

my shep didn't really care. If that worker couldn't save his own friends, why should I alienate one of mine?


Good point. The guy got out, he can run back and turn on the fire extinguishes just fine. Don't worry, Zaeed! My next three Sheps will let you kill Vido no problem!

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I
admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't
done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he
truly is there...


After playing through his mission countless times in both ways, it makes sense to let Zaeed carry out his revenge. He's carried that moment around for twenty years. It's obvious he isn't going to let it go. Of course, him withdrawing and respecting your leadership says a lot. Still, my next Sheps aren't letting Vido get away for anything. Zaeed is a part of Shep's crew now - he's her responsibility. And whoever hurt her crew in any way, is getting their ass kicked to the next race of sentient machines bent on organic extermination.

As for Jessie, I was also touched by his attachment to it. Almost cute in a way. Almost. Then I played DA2 and Varric's attachment to Bianca just made me think of Zaeed. :lol:

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I wish there was a Mordin/Jack/Legion/Grunt-like squad specific weapon/tech upgrade for Zaeed like fixing Jessie or giving him a Revenant.

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And whoever hurt her crew in any way, is getting their ass kicked to the next race of sentient machines bent on organic extermination.

I personally only apply that to those who hurt my crew while they are my crew. It's why Enyala gets killed but Sidonis doesn't.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, after having finally got Zaeed, I admit to being sort of touched by the whole Jessie saga. But I haven't done his loyalty mission yet, so we'll see how much of a jackass he truly is there...


Be a pal and let him have his revenge.

I'd be more willing if it involved less death.


Vido already killed a bunch of workers, you're preventing him from killing more in the future by taking him out!

Maybe. Maybe someone else will instantly step into line and start killing workers again. Maybe it'll start a gang war that kills a lot of Blue Suns, maybe it'll start one that kills them plus a lot of innocents. I don't and can't know. What I do know is whom I can save, here and now, and what I'll do about that.



Yeah. To date, Zaeed LM is the only decision in the series I really consider a tough one, as even now I have to think before I do it. Actually it doesn't have to do with saving the workers at all, it's more a matter of my squad understanding they can't ignore my command - period. And Zaeed is one of the squadmates I think better of, but I really don't like how he says "and if he gets away I'm blaming you." So I don't care if this were Jack or Jacob, that is not acceptable. If I specifically order Vido to walk out alive, he better go with it! He's lucky that doesn't tip me over the edge into saving the workers instead.

At the end of the day, Zaeed's full focus to the mission is all that matters, more people will be saved if he's at his best on the 'mission. At the end of the day, we're there only for his loyalty, so I'll let it slide (barely). Only way to safely secure it is to take the safest course to make sure Vido gets killed. And as a added bonus, Vido's death will at least cripple the 'Suns for a short time.

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I personally believe a disloyal or potentially loose cannon Zaeed is more a threat to the team than having no Zaeed at all, so if he'll be problematic to my team, then he can get the hell off my ship. Luckily, I can still solve the problem.

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I loved having the opportunity to punch Zaeed on his loyalty mission. Don't get me wrong, I love Zaeed, but it made my femShep feel a little better about letting the workers die. :D 

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Zaeed places Shep in the same position as Saren did to Anderson. Saren was considered a monster who would get the job done at any cost, my Shep couldn't live with that. But then again he slaughtered 300,000 batarians, go figure.

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Miss Greyjoy wrote...

My Shep was a paragon, and still loved Zaeed. I didn't let him go after Vido in his loyalty quest. (I'm mean, I know.) He was mad- we fought, we made up. He was still my right-hand man. Best part of ME2 for me.


Zaeed is a solid sidekick.   He is a good shooter with the mattock, and disprptor ammo can be pretty amazing if used correctly.  I know that all of the squad members are controlled by the same AI, but some characters are better for more missions than others are.  You can take Zaeed anywhere and do well.

Its a shame he was added so late to the game.  He could have had real conversation options and dialogue.  Still, its neat hearing about Jessie and the Krogan helmet. 

Regardless of how 'palsy' we are, I am not watching a building full of people burn to death in order to fulfil his revenge.  I usually play paragon, so its just NOT going to happen.  As a renegade.....  sure!  We go after Vido and end his pathetic life no matter how many people he hides behind.

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I always go for the heavy weapon ammo upgrade. Guess that makes all my Shepards have to have a reason to save the workers (all bloody four of them). Insubordination is always high on that list.

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if there's an upgrade, it might be worth it to some. I never used heavy weapons enough to justify it. vindicator and viper.