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[zazally]

Like the title sais I am sick of dying and I would love to make a shield and sword warrior and max all my points into constitution so I will never die but wondering what specializations. Champion/Templer?

[Skellimancer]

AW/BM

[zazally]

Where do you unlock Arcane Warrior? Are Arcane Warrior's even good?

[Wintermist]

Arcane Warrior is also known as Godlike Warrior.

[Mehbazu]

You unlock arcane warrior in the warewolf ruins during the dailish quest. There is a philactory in a side room that contains a spirit. All you have to do is talk to the spirit and agree to release it by placing the philactary on a nearby pedastle. Then wham bam thank you ma'am, you have access to the arcane warrior.

[zazally]

Mehbazu your an angel what would have more survivability Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage or Champion/Templar also what is the best specialization that goes well with Arcane Warrior?

[zazally]

Mehbazu thank you . What would have more survivability Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage or Champion/Templar also what is the best specialization that goes well with Arcane Warrior?

[Wintermist]

I'd say that depends on the rest of your party. Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage is the favorite here, but Spirit Healer is also a nice pick. I'd say Blood Mage Spirit Healer for survival because with another mage, you got two who can heal.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Meh rogues have the most survivability.  high dex means nothing bloody hits you, and if they DO start hitting you you can press WIN comabat stealth.

[zazally]

So Champion/Templer's are useless?

[Wintermist]

zazally wrote...

So Champion/Templer's are useless?

Isn't that a peculiar way of thinking. There can only be one? Both are good, man. Both are good!

[acrh2]

High level rogues also have high Dex (don't get hit much) and an instawin button called Combat Stealth.

[WanderingLoki]

Honestly I say if your a tank, just gear well with some of the DLC items (Blood Dragon Armor/Warden Commander's Armor come to mind) and get a decent shield and sword and go to town. If your a DPS, I say go with a Rogue (Combat Stealthing is a complete threat drop every 10 seconds or however long its cooldown is). That and the Duelist specialization/Evasion pretty much make you an avoidance tank. The truth of the matter is, once you get Wynne, its very difficult to die on Easy. Set up tactics so she heals someone when they get below 75% hp and micro her for Group Heal when needed and your fine.

[Mork_ba]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Meh rogues have the most survivability.  high dex means nothing bloody hits you, and if they DO start hitting you you can press WIN comabat stealth.

Spells still kick your butt, though

[Solymer89]

It has to be AW for straight up survivability. at level 16-17 i have 75% to ALL resists 100 to both physical resistance and the other stat (can't think of it now) and thats just from one of the AW spells. Granted it drains your mana but even when you run out the bonuses of the spell are still active. Which is why BM is the best spec. to combo with AW. Use your health to cast since you won't have any mana or very little when you are tanking.

[F-C]

paladins. they can bubble hearth if it ever gets tough.

[Toro Nero]

Yes nothing beats an arcane warrior for survivability. It doesn't have to be a blood mage per se. It does take quite some time to get there however. You need to be at least level 14 to get to the really godlike buffs.

But honestly, as appealing as it may sound, it's not very fun. You may just as well just use a godmode cheat on any other character and it feels the same way playing it. You hardly get any fun out of playing the game once you get those buffs.

If you are talking about survivability on a warrior, you'll probably want a sword + shield templar. Sword + Shield style to become flanking immune and templar to become more resistant to spells (also allows you to wear some templar gear with crazy spell resistance on it should you wish to).

Any high dex char is also quite survivable, so rogues do fairly well. Nothing stops you from giving your warrior high dex as well though. I actually believe that a high dex/low armor warrior might be a more effective tank than a low dex/high armor warrior (on higher difficulties at least).

Modifié par Toro Nero, 20 novembre 2009 - 11:00 .

[Odd Hermit]

F-C wrote...

paladins. they can bubble hearth if it ever gets tough.

Night Elf druid.
Shadowmeld -> Flight Form
They can do it more often than a paladin as well, and they don't have to waste their heart or leave the general area.

However, neither of these are applicable in arena or BGs. Druid is better for BGs, paladin is better for arenas.
Feral > Ret if you want to be DPS though, but it's apparently significantly harder to play.

Modifié par Odd Hermit, 20 novembre 2009 - 11:06 .

[DrekorSilverfang]

zazally wrote...

Mehbazu thank you . What would have more survivability Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage or Champion/Templar also what is the best specialization that goes well with Arcane Warrior?

Not even a real contest AW/BM is much better.

Essentially take your warrior and throw nearly every mage buff on him and that's an AW. Then use BM so you can cast mage spells to make things even more ridiculous.

[Spyndel]

No Warrior class can hang with the Arcane Warrior for durability. You can argue the rogue thing about evading( Arcane Warriors get damage evasion too though, with their fourth tier ability) and hiding from damage, but as far as a character that can wade into the middle of crowds of enemies and just take it, thats Arcane Warrior hands down, and it isnt even close.

Modifié par Spyndel, 20 novembre 2009 - 11:28 .

[Lughsan35]

Spyndel wrote...

No Warrior class can hang with the Arcane Warrior for durability. You can argue the rogue thing about evading and hiding from damage, but as far as a character that can wade into the middle of crowds of enemies and just take it, thats Arcane Warrior hands down, and it isnt even close.

The Duelist rogue can do so too with two different feats for evasion on dex With my arcane warrior on first play through.. the last two standing were always leiliana  as a duelist bard.. and me as an arcane warrior..the difference was she was able to do more things with abilities without chugging mana potions...

[hexaligned]

Ignore the AW/BM bandwagon fanboys, they only get really good at endgame, unless you are consoling yourself in exp or something. If your question is "who has the most survivability for the last 2 hours of gameplay" Then they are right, if you are asking about for the vast majority of the game, its a warrior.

[Spyndel]

Lughsan35 wrote...

Spyndel wrote...

No Warrior class can hang with the Arcane Warrior for durability. You can argue the rogue thing about evading and hiding from damage, but as far as a character that can wade into the middle of crowds of enemies and just take it, thats Arcane Warrior hands down, and it isnt even close.

The Duelist rogue can do so too with two different feats for evasion on dex With my arcane warrior on first play through.. the last two standing were always leiliana  as a duelist bard.. and me as an arcane warrior..the difference was she was able to do more things with abilities without chugging mana potions...

If you are a Blood Mage as well, your casting abilites far and away outstrip any meager rogue abilities.  MY AW/BM has never chugged  a mana pot in his life, and rarely has to resort to a healing pot.  And if he does, it is almost always due to damage he has done himself with blood magic, not damage from any really serious threat.

[Spyndel]

relhart wrote...

Ignore the AW/BM bandwagon fanboys, they only get really good at endgame,

Mages are overpowered out of the gate, so you start out the game *realy good*.

At some point you also get to wear the best armor in the game , so you are *really good* and far more duarable, while still being an effective caster.

Oh, and then, yeah, by the end of the game you will be completely unkillable, able to dish out decent damage without expending any any mana at all, and also able to kill and control entire roomfulls of enemeies at once with the most potent magic in the game.

There are no downsides.  There are no "rough patches".

[Toro Nero]

Spyndel wrote...

Oh, and then, yeah, by the end of the game you will be completely unkillable, able to dish out decent damage without expending any any mana at all, and also able to kill and control entire roomfulls of enemeies at once with the most potent magic in the game.

There are no downsides.  There are no "rough patches".

I think the downside is that it just takes all the enjoyment out of the game. Especially if it's the first playthrough. As most people mention already, including you, you become unkillable. It really feels like the equivalent of a 'legal' godmode.

It may be fun for an hour or so, but it wears quickly.