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[l DryIce l]

 Think any of the current non-council races have a chance at joining the Council in ME3? Which do you think would have a better chance than others? 

Personally, I could see the Quarians gaining a seat as soon as the geth situation gets resolved. Of course, they've already learned to be pretty independent, so they might not even have any desire to join in the first place.

[Jeffect]

I think that a Vorcha would do a better job than the current council. With a Vorcha led council, there would be no trouble declaring war on the Reapers.

[HogarthHughes 3]

I agree the Quarians might have a chance, but who knows what will happen to their fleets during the war. Humanity may very well lose its spot after the war, with no fleets to carry out its responsibilities as a council race. I don't think many of the other races have a chance however, unless the military might of the Turians/Salarians/Asari is sufficiently weakened enough to lower the standards for joining.

Modifié par HogarthHughes 3, 27 juin 2011 - 03:28 .

[M2MGamer]

i would like to think of the geth joining because of there help against the reapers or atleast have legoin as an ambasodor or somthing.

[Cowboy_christo]

Jeffect wrote...

I think that a Vorcha would do a better job than the current council. With a Vorcha led council, there would be no trouble declaring war on the Reapers.

HAAAAAAAA YESSHHHHHH REAPERS!!!!!!!

WE KILL YOU!!!!!

[l DryIce l]

M2MGamer wrote...

i would like to think of the geth joining because of there help against the reapers or atleast have legoin as an ambasodor or somthing.

Perhaps if there is peace between the Quarians and the Geth, then the Geth will end up working alongside the Quarians (not as slaves), and one Quarian could be used to represent the Quarian/Geth civilization. 

...that actually sounds sort of stupid now that I've read that to myself. 

[l DryIce l]

luk4s3d wrote...

I think the pure Paragon ending will have every surviving species on the Council, or at least i hope so.

The Hanar, Drell, Krogan, Elcor, Volus, Vorcha, Geth, Quarians, and the Batarians. 

That's pretty idealistic. 

[Medhia Nox]

The Volus could very easily be an important part of this war. Transportation should be very important to a mercantile race (and we're told that it's ALL they do) - information would also be key.

So - transporting supplies (whether food, soldiers, munitions, or refugees) into and out of war zones... and keep the lines of communication going. Could lead to the Volus gaining a Council seat.

But - I doubt the story will take enough time away from explosions to delve into what is really required in massive wars (preferring the "One man can save the galaxy by himself." approach)

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The Vorcha could be shock troops sent onto Reapers - but they'd never gain a Council seat.

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However, in the same capacity as the Vorcha... the Krogan could finally demand a Council seat (for a promise before committing the Urdnot clan to the war).

The Krogan are being shown with far more range than "mindless militant race" now - we've got poets, great scientists, and even diplomats.

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The Hanar could contribute some great knowledge about the Enkindlers. I'm truly not sure what else they could provide... except perhaps that they can't be indoctrinated given their completely "alien" physiology.

The Protheans could have engineered them as a race completely immune to harvesting and indoctrinization.

Perhaps we'll find that the Enkindlers left them with powerful weaponry outfitted to their ships (they do have ships I imagine).

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The Elcor are tough... they've never been given much aside from their odd mode of speech.

[VegasVance]

I'd like to see the Vorcha seated instead of the Asari, life is too short you know?

[HogarthHughes 3]

l DryIce l wrote...

Perhaps if there is peace between the Quarians and the Geth, then the Geth will end up working alongside the Quarians (not as slaves), and one Quarian could be used to represent the Quarian/Geth civilization. 

...that actually sounds sort of stupid now that I've read that to myself. 

I'm hoping that the Geth squatting on/around the Quarian home world are mostly turned heretics, thus they can be wiped out guilt free (giving the Quarians their home world back without having to live side by side with Geth every day) and both sides can more easily settle into peace. Co-existence would be easier after a few generations had passed I think.  Of course the Geth could also just leave, but I'm not sure they would be willing to do that yet.

Modifié par HogarthHughes 3, 27 juin 2011 - 03:39 .

[Raiil]

The hanar are next in line. After that, reasonably, the elcor. Volus maybe, but they're a client race.

The drell, quarians, geth- all of the others are probably light years away from being able to join. The quarians are still looked at as vagrants, the drell are very few in number and also a client race, the geth are... the geth.

I don't foresee more council seats opening. I foresee people too busy running for their lives to bother about it.

[l DryIce l]

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

l DryIce l wrote...

Perhaps if there is peace between the Quarians and the Geth, then the Geth will end up working alongside the Quarians (not as slaves), and one Quarian could be used to represent the Quarian/Geth civilization. 

...that actually sounds sort of stupid now that I've read that to myself. 

I'm hoping that the Geth squatting on/around the Quarian home world are mostly turned heretics, thus they can be wiped out guilt free (giving the Quarians their home world back without having to live side by side with Geth every day) and both sides can more easily settle into peace. Co-existence would be easier after a few generations had passed I think.  Of course the Geth could also just leave, but I'm not sure they would be willing to do that yet.

If my understading is correct, the Geth orbiting the Quarian homeworld are Legion's geth. And the Heretics are doing things elsewhere, obeying the Reapers. I think this is why we've never actually encountered the "true" Geth before meeting Legion. 

Or maybe my understanding is just completely off. 

[l DryIce l]

Valentia X wrote...

The hanar are next in line. After that, reasonably, the elcor. Volus maybe, but they're a client race.

The drell, quarians, geth- all of the others are probably light years away from being able to join. The quarians are still looked at as vagrants, the drell are very few in number and also a client race, the geth are... the geth.

I don't foresee more council seats opening. I foresee people too busy running for their lives to bother about it.

As someone suggested earlier, the Krogan might have a very good possibility. Each race that joins the Council must have something significant to offer the galaxy (Asari: diplomacy; Salarians: Intelligence; Turians: Military might). The Krogan have already shown that they were useful during the Rachni Wars, so a seat in the Council might be a condition of gaining their support. 

The Quarians excel at resource gathering and engineering. If the Geth conflict is solved before the Reapers destroy everything, that would be reason enough to warrant a seat. 

[M2MGamer]

i just wish the geth would get some kind of reward with there help against the reapers (the non heritics ones like legion).

[l DryIce l]

M2MGamer wrote...

i just wish the geth would get some kind of reward with there help against the reapers (the non heritics ones like legion).

Well they haven't helped yet. If they do, though, then simple acceptance in society might be a good enough reward. 

[VegasVance]

l DryIce l wrote...
As someone suggested earlier, the Krogan might have a very good possibility. Each race that joins the Council must have something significant to offer the galaxy (Asari: diplomacy; Salarians: Intelligence; Turians: Military might). The Krogan have already shown that they were useful during the Rachni Wars, so a seat in the Council might be a condition of gaining their support. 

I think it's an insult for Krogan to have one of theirs be a diplomat.

[HogarthHughes 3]

l DryIce l wrote...

If my understading is correct, the Geth orbiting the Quarian homeworld are Legion's geth. And the Heretics are doing things elsewhere, obeying the Reapers. I think this is why we've never actually encountered the "true" Geth before meeting Legion. 

Or maybe my understanding is just completely off. 

Yeah I'm pretty sure thats right.  Still it seems strange to me that despite their desire for peace, the "true" Geth have yet to send any other envoys besides Legion (Who was originally sent to find Shepard for some reason, rather than attempting to make contact with the Quarians :/).  I suppose thats neither here nor there though, I just don't completely trust that the "true" Geth will be reliable allies.  I was just thinking of a way the Quarians could have their home world back without having to live with the Geth, at least not immediately.

[HogarthHughes 3]

VegasVance wrote...

I think it's an insult for Krogan to have one of theirs be a diplomat.

The diplomat on Tuchanka seemed to think that he had to fight his way to the position, that only someone worthy would represent his people.  Perhaps he was just trying to protect his ego though.

[VegasVance]

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...
The diplomat on Tuchanka seemed to think that he had to fight his way to the position, that only someone worthy would represent his people.  Perhaps he was just trying to protect his ego though.

His quad is down to two. 

[M2MGamer]

l DryIce l wrote...

M2MGamer wrote...

i just wish the geth would get some kind of reward with there help against the reapers (the non heritics ones like legion).

Well they haven't helped yet. If they do, though, then simple acceptance in society might be a good enough reward. 

well i helped rewrite some of the heritics for there cause so they better help me.

[l DryIce l]

VegasVance wrote...

l DryIce l wrote...
As someone suggested earlier, the Krogan might have a very good possibility. Each race that joins the Council must have something significant to offer the galaxy (Asari: diplomacy; Salarians: Intelligence; Turians: Military might). The Krogan have already shown that they were useful during the Rachni Wars, so a seat in the Council might be a condition of gaining their support. 

I think it's an insult for Krogan to have one of theirs be a diplomat.

That's a good point. I couldn't see any Krogan being a 24/7 diplomat. Maybe they would just a have an ambassador who simply communicates their interests every now and then, but doesn't actual hold a seat. 

[l DryIce l]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well the politicians we overheard in ME1 indicated the hanar were most likely to be in line after the humans, then the elcor, and last the volus. Though I think the volus have the best chance if they move away from the turians. In a human-Council setting the volus are starting to do just that. Though of-course I don't imagine the human Council would invite them...

I'm note sure how credible those politicians were, though. We haven't really seen what the Hanar, Elcor, or Volus have to offer. The Volus are great at business, trade, commerce, etc, but I think they're way too dependant on Turians. I don't see that changing unless you change Volus biology.