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[M2MGamer]

Computer_God91 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

A Great Biotic Wind wrote...

 What I think the real question here is how he will 'reflect' the 'perspective'  of a new 'player'.

"According to BioWare, James Vega will reflect the perspective of a new player coming to the franchise."
-Mass Effect Wiki

He'll ask questions everyone already knows the answer to and say things that everyone already knows.

Expect him to be Captain Boring McExposition.

Yep, he's getting **** duty, i.e. walking codex entry.

I can already tell my Shepard's going to keep this clown stuffed into the Normandy custodial closet and never bother to go speak with him, his newbie shtick will get old really fast

I think the only thing I'll have to say to him is "where were you when I was blowing up Virmire?"

Too bad we won't get the option to shove him in the air lock and get back an old squadie. Or time travel back to virmire and nuke the ******.

Freakin new comers, man. Quit being lazy and go play the first two games. Who the hell picks up a game thats second or third in the series and goes "Derp, I don't want to play the first ones. Quick everyone tell me whats going on!" Of course you'll be lost. I wish Bioware didn't make everything all noob friendly.

completely agree.

[marshalleck]

MrFob wrote...

See, that always depends on how it is executed. I am just rereading "The Great Hunt", the second book of wheel of time series and there is this wonderful scene with the rather big, slow and deliberate but extremely talkative Ogier Loial. He goes to great length to explain tp some of the main characters some concepts established in the first book, giving the reader a recap of what's going on and how everything works. It fit's his character perfectly because he loves reading books and talking about what he has read. Best part is, the scene ends with one of the other characters telling him to shut up already and he is abashed about that.
So I'm saying, if you can couple these recap moments with character moments, they must not be just annoying add-ins. Of course, someone who is already familiar with the IP will recognize that this is a recap but since it is also a character moment, it doesn't really matter.
I am not saying this works all the time, in fact I think it cannot be done more than once or twice but if done well, it can be fun.

I hated Loial. Every time the narrative switched back to his arc I was tempted to quit reading the books.

[MrFob]

Really, awwww, I didn't.
How can you hate this guy?

Anyway, my point is not depending on Loial to make sense (I hope ).

EDIT: Besides, I am not even convinced James Vega is gonna play that kind of role in ME3. It doesn't make that much sens since I guess they will have another comic thing for newcomers as well as some old codex entries. Maybe once or twice when we see familiar places but as I said, I hope that will be good character moments rather than bland explanation moments.

Modifié par MrFob, 27 juin 2011 - 05:56 .

[Foolsfolly]

He's still just an Alliance guy.

Who cares? We have a team of awesome and exceptional people. Here's a guy with less experience than Shepard who isn't even an N7 grad. The team for ME3 has two fricken Spectres on it!

From him being the "perspective of a new player" to being a boring Alliance guy (like Jacob from ME2) with nothing exceptional about him...I just can't care about the guy.

Perhaps he'll be well written and acted and I'll like the guy. But this is it. This is the final fight with the Reapers. The end of Shepard storyline. Why the hell do I care about this unexceptional low ranked Alliance marine? And why should he be a part of my team? What does he offer that Ashley, Garrus, Wrex, Grunt, or Zaeed doesn't cover better? Plus they have history with the player and Shepard.

[Kadzin]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

I'm thinkin Vega was sent back in time to keep the Reapers from killing Commander Shepard, and then while he is here he's gonna end up hooking up with Shep's mom and making his son, who he will one day go back in time (again) to save.

Aside from the epic Terminator referance he would have already failed, if you remember a certain opening to ME2... but seeing as death is apparently a non-issue for Shepard I guess James is going have a real boring job.

James: I am here to save Shepard from certain death.
Joker: Yeah... Shepard died already.
James: WHAT?!?!?
Joker: It's kind of a long story... but he got better.
James: Wait... what do you mean?
Joker: Well there is this Cerberus group and they recovered his body and...
James: ...
Joker: A wizard did it.
James: So he is alive?
Joker: Yep.
James: And can be revived multiple times?
Joker: I don't see why not.
James: Well f**k...
Joker: Oh hey Commander.
Shepard: Hey Joker. James, since you are new on our ship, you will have to pull your own weight, you're Rupert's assiatant now.
James: *whimper*

[M2MGamer]

Kadzin wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

I'm thinkin Vega was sent back in time to keep the Reapers from killing Commander Shepard, and then while he is here he's gonna end up hooking up with Shep's mom and making his son, who he will one day go back in time (again) to save.

Aside from the epic Terminator referance he would have already failed, if you remember a certain opening to ME2... but seeing as death is apparently a non-issue for Shepard I guess James is going have a real boring job.

James: I am here to save Shepard from certain death.
Joker: Yeah... Shepard died already.
James: WHAT?!?!?
Joker: It's kind of a long story... but he got better.
James: Wait... what do you mean?
Joker: Well there is this Cerberus group and they recovered his body and...
James: ...
Joker: A wizard did it.
James: So he is alive?
Joker: Yep.
James: And can be revived multiple times?
Joker: I don't see why not.
James: Well f**k...
Joker: Oh hey Commander.
Shepard: Hey Joker. James, since you are new on our ship, you will have to pull your own weight, you're Rupert's assiatant now.
James: *whimper*

 

HA

[Bogsnot1]

Foolsfolly wrote...

A Great Biotic Wind wrote...
 What I think the real question here is how he will 'reflect' the 'perspective'  of a new 'player'.

"According to BioWare, James Vega will reflect the perspective of a new player coming to the franchise."
-Mass Effect Wiki

He'll ask questions everyone already knows the answer to and say things that everyone already knows.

Expect him to be Captain Boring McExposition.

James Vega is another raving fanboi like Conrad Verner, but actually slightly useful. He'll gush over Shepards past acheivements with more zeal than an apple fanboi gushes over Steve Job's every "innovation".

[Bluko]

James Vega is probably another N7 Marine. Hard to say given that we don't even know what Kaidan and Jenkins were in regards to Shepard. Still he's some kind of highly trained Alliance Marine that gets assigned to the Normandy before the invasion. He may be the "new guy" but he's suppose to know how to fight.

His class will either be Soldier or Sentinel depending on which Virmire Survivor you have I would guess as well to maintain squad balance.

This is what I'm assuming given what little information we have.

[CaptainZaysh]

I think they could make this guy Captain Awesome McExposition, actually.

If he's asking questions that Shepard is answering, it could give us a lot more control over Shepard's personality.

[Fogg]

He's just guarding the Normandy while Shepard is on trial (so he can't escape when the verdict sucks), then Ashley and all come and scream 'we gotta go save Shepard and the universe' and he is like 'hmkay.'

Modifié par Schrijver, 27 juin 2011 - 11:04 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Foolsfolly wrote...

He'll ask questions everyone already knows the answer to and say things that everyone already knows.

Expect him to be Captain Boring McExposition.

Yup he'll be our Scully. Unfortunately he won't be a hot redhead to make up for it.

[nhsk]

He is new guy, I don't care what his purpose is, he is on the normandy while all we other bleed, laugh and have fun. Should a Virmire situation arise however, he will be the first off the boat.

Shepard: Hey James, you know you've been asking to tag along more and I've said no because, well, you're the new guy and so, but today I will give you the benefit of proving yourself

James: Man thanks Shepard, I won't let you down, what is the mission?

Shepard: Well you see, we gotta take out this base and the plan is that Ashley leads a small diversion team in a head on assault, while I, Garrus and Legion infiltrate from another direction, after everything is secure you go in an arm the nuke.

Legion: Geth do not infiltr..

Shepard: Shut up Legion

Legion: Acknowledged Shepard-Commander

James: Wait, isn't that exactly how Kaidan Alenko died?

Legion: No data available.

[Arrow70]

He's just Conrad verner in disguise

[amcnow]

Mr. Vega is apparently supposed to provide the new player prospective.  With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be the "James" who Ashley mentions.  They need a way to introduce him in the story.  This would be a great way to do it.

I think they changed his last name due to the rampant speculation of him being related to Kahlee Sanders.  I'll admit to taking part in this speculation.  

Computer_God91 wrote...

Maybe he was the gay dude they included to appease the homosexuals...

Please don't attract the S/S movement to this thread.  That never ends well.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

[amcnow]

Schrijver wrote...

He's just guarding the Normandy while Shepard is on trial (so he can't escape when the verdict sucks), then Ashley and all come and scream 'we gotta go save Shepard and the universe' and he is like 'hmkay.'

You say this like James Vega could actually stop the almighty Shepard...

[Someone With Mass]

He's a guard aboard the Normandy when it's forced to leave the shipyard in a hurry to pick up Shepard.

[Han Shot First]

My guess is that Vega is one of your original two squadmates. When all hell initially breaks loose during the first mission, he's probably the one that helps guide you out in your escape.

As far as his backstory, he's probably either one of your jailers that is sympathetic, or just a random Marine that happened to be stationed at the facility Shep is being held in when the Reapers attack.

Foolsfolly wrote...

He was probably overwhelmed by the Reaper invasion and got swept up with Shepard.

Kinda like how ME1 had those nameless uniformed Alliance soldiers who only moved at makeshift bomb that one time? Except Vega goes out on missions and stumbled into being a part of an elite force of specialists who're the only hope for the galaxy.

That is sort of how you end up with Ashley as well. She was a random Marine that got swept up in the Geth attack on Eden Prime, and happened to run across Shepard.

[M2MGamer]

are we sure vega is in the ship when it takes off?

[Wojtek the Soldier Bear]

If I had to take a shot in the dark (a very long shot), I would say the first mission in ME3 is the Vancouver/Seattle level shown in the Jesse Houston interview by Machinima. If that's the case, then Anderson will be your temporary squaddie, and only Anderson, up until the Normandy SR-3 heroically swoops in with the VS and what is probably James Vega, and whisks Shep and Anderson away. So, I would say that Vega guarding the Normandy while on lockdown and being carried away by the hijackers is the most sound bit of speculation.

[Goneaviking]

Maybe he just gives a different perspective to events.

It'd be interesting to have someone pointing out holes, or weak points, in the narative that get glossed over, like asking why we take Sovereign at face value despite that he obviously had an incentive to lie to us, or why we take EDIs first theory about the creation of the larval reaper as gospel.

Doesn't mean he has to be right about everything, but it's the sort of stuff that I always wondered about when playing.

Modifié par Goneaviking, 28 juin 2011 - 09:57 .

[Bnol]

He is a stray you pick up like Ashley or Tali in ME1, at the time you probably don't have any other squadmates so he is better than nothing. I could see him potentially having different abilities depending on the VS you have, so that there isn't a ton of overlap. While I am hopeful he is redshirt material, I doubt it as pretty much everyone would go that route to keep the other characters we actually care about alive. I think they could have had the "new person aspect" done with the VS since they don't know what transpired in ME2 and they can reminisce about ME1 with Shep.

[Aimi]

M2MGamer wrote...

are we sure vega is in the ship when it takes off?

No, we're not, but it seems like everybody in this subforum is assuming that everybody who appears in cutscenes is a Named Character Of Whom We Have Heard.  The dude that appears in the Normandy's cargo bay could be Vega, but just as easily could be somebody else.  We don't know.

[Bnol]

daqs wrote...

M2MGamer wrote...

are we sure vega is in the ship when it takes off?

No, we're not, but it seems like everybody in this subforum is assuming that everybody who appears in cutscenes is a Named Character Of Whom We Have Heard.  The dude that appears in the Normandy's cargo bay could be Vega, but just as easily could be somebody else.  We don't know.

Don't see too many non-major characters in cutscenes unless they are getting killed.  Don't know why they would waste the time on putting some random guy in the cutscene.  It wouldn't make too much sense to be introducing a ton of characters to the game since there are already so many characters in the universe to work with, such that they don't need two new non-generic Alliance personnel on the Normandy.