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[Paul Sedgmore]

Archontor wrote...

Dose anyone know how they would get over that sayid discharge problem in their drive cores by the way. Also maybe darkspace is 'just' outside the galaxy and they still can't reach another galaxy, maybe that IS their goal.

This is an interesting theory, I can see this being the ultimate goal of the reapers and they are using the reasorces they gain every cycle to use in the reasearch that they are performing to reach this goal in the down time between cycles.

[Welsh Inferno]

Well they do have a relay in dark space. The one they use to get straight to the Citadel. Who's to say this mega relay(or another) doesn't link to other galaxies? Or the could have an entire relay network out in dark space.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 27 juin 2011 - 02:55 .

[Candidate 88766]

Maybe they do attack other galaxies. Or maybe there are many extragalactic races all at war with each other, and the Reapers use organic life in the Milky Way merely as supplies. That'd be an interesting twist - all life that has ever been in the Milky Way really is meaningless in the grand scheme of things, great civilizations have been crushed merely to supply the Reapers with a little more fuel and resources in some intergalactic war.

Or, thinking more sensibly, I imagine that even for the Reapers intergalactic travel is unachievable. The distance is pretty much unfathomable, and they have no real reason to try it as they have an entire galaxy already under their control (well, pretty much).

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 27 juin 2011 - 03:03 .

[Patchwork]

Taking the research in dark space idea and running with it. Perhaps the Reapers originally come from another galaxy and each cycle is to gather the resources to get back their and enact their revenge on the people who banished them.

[Eurhetemec]

Imperator Augustus wrote...

The distances between galaxies are unimaginably vast.  It would take thousands of years to reach even relatively close by neighboring galaxies.  They could run into lifeforms completely beyond even their comprehension with technlogy even more advanced.  The Milky Way is all they know, and I highly doubt their motives are as simple as complete domination of life itself.

They're not that vast at high FTL speeds. If the end of ME2 was correct as to the position of the reapers, they were 50-100k LY outside the galaxy, and it looks like it took them somewhere between a few months and two or three years to reach the edge of our galaxy using their normal FTL drives. Let's assume it took them three years, and the distance was 50k LY, as that's the worst-case scenario (putting them about 5 to 10x faster than the Normandy, last I checked).

The Andromeda Galaxy is 2.5m LY away. The think is, that's "only" fifty times further away. So with the same drives, it would "only" take 150 years to fly there. That's the blink of an eye for a Reaper, who might spend 50k years hibernating, then a few hundred or thousand years devastating the galaxy (it took hundreds of years to wipe out the Protheans, according to the Prothean VI). The main issue would be fuel, but if they can build the Mass Relays, which contain as much energy as a small sun, I'm pretty sure they could build an inter-galactic fuel-tank and drag enough material for drive repairs/maintenance for the journey.

However, there's the static discharge issue. They appear to be able to go 50-100k LY without discharging, so maybe they don't need to, ever (it would seem like something one could work around, physics-wise), but then again, maybe they do, and that could be what's stopping them.

Archontor wrote...

Dose anyone know how they would get
over that sayid discharge problem in their drive cores by the way. Also
maybe darkspace is 'just' outside the galaxy and they still can't reach
another galaxy, maybe that IS their goal.

Well, they should have been able to reach Andromeda *IF* they want to, and it's possible that they're using the materials for some sort of inter-galactic construction project - Mass Relays between galaxies, maybe?

As you say, though, the static discharge issue might be preventing them.

Given that ME3's galaxy screens all very prominently say "MILKY WAY" even when identifying planets, I'm personally going to be very unsurprised if ME3 ends up with us in another galaxy entirely, perhaps with multiple locations there.

[Mike 9987]

there is a set of reapers for each galaxy. when we destroy the ones for ours, we will have to face all 500 billion sets of reapers when they find out.

[Dragoncloud]

Even if they are 'immortal' it would take way too long to travel from one galaxy to another. 'dark space' doesn't necessarily mean that they're outside of our galaxy, just in a spot where theres no planets/star.

They would also have to deal with an unknown factor, namely, how did the other galaxy evolve, what is to say that by the time they reach the other galaxy its inhabitants haven't developped technologies that could obliterate them (especially when the reapers were first created, the century or more it might take them to get to another galaxy could have been crucial in allowing other galaxies to develop past what the reapers could imagine).

[HTTP 404]

who's to say the reapers do not reap other galaxies? Im also guessing, the distance between galaxies is much more unfathomable than the distance between systems. Hell, Im guessing the relays only cover a fraction of a percentage of the milky way.

[VegasVance]

It is simple, after killing the last reaper in this galaxy, all the other reapers come to avenge the fallen, only problem being by the time they arrive the universe would implode.

[S.A.K]

Tripedius wrote...

One thing that I found odd in ME is the fact that the reapers seem to be solely focussed on our galaxy (the Milky way). Space is far bigger than that, there are milions of other galaxies out there. So why the focus on the Milhy way? What about Andromeda (for starters)?

Is our galaxy the only one that has (ever) develloped life? No, probably not. There could be thousands of species out there for reapers to reap. Why did they focus on our galaxy? Are we the only galaxy with mass relays? IF yes why? Reapers reside in dark space, so one could argue that another galaxy isn't too far away for the reapers.

Are the more reapers who take care of other galaxies? Is there an even bigger threath that does target galaxies instead of systems? Is this an oversight of the makers? Is this the deus ex machina you'd expect (suprise, the reapers nemesis are in another galaxy, but now there here).

Discuss. Personally I think it's an oversight by BW, left out intentionally cause other wise it would become to big.

Actually there are over 200billion galaxies in the visible universe which is 96billion light years in diameter. For starters Andromeda is 2million light years away. Even if its reachable, ME universe civilization only explored less than 1% of milkiway. So I don't see why bother going to other galaxies.

[Xeranx]

I don't know why, but I always thought that the Reapers had sentries in other galaxies and they would cull civilizations all across the universe. That's why it would take time to go back to any one galaxy and start again.

[ThePatriot101]

The nearest "galaxies", namely ones smaller than the Milky Way or Andromeda, are merely tens of thousands of light years way not millions. Canis Major is one such galaxy, only about 25 kLy from our own solar system.

[Eurhetemec]

Dragoncloud wrote...

Even if they are 'immortal' it would take way too long to travel from one galaxy to another. 'dark space' doesn't necessarily mean that they're outside of our galaxy, just in a spot where theres no planets/star.

No.

This is outright wrong.

Even the Normandy goes at 24 LY/day. That's 8760 LY/year. That means to reach Andromeda, which is 2.5m LY away, would take 285 years. Reaper FTL is far faster (somewhere between 2 and 10x as faster, it seems), and they are immortal. It took them many hundreds of years to wipe out the Protheans.

So the only possible barrier to getting to other galaxies is the static discharge issue.

[Han Shot First]

I'd guess the Reapers are so fixated on the Milky Way galaxy because they originated there.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 27 juin 2011 - 06:03 .

[Ghost Warrior]

Don't worry,Luke Skywalker will come to our aid in ME3

[LTiberious]

maybe they do reap other galaxies... just we dont know about it?

[Mixon]

How about that: Reapers are reaping all galaxis? Or Any other galactic got it's own reapers

[Mallissin]

I repeat:

Space lice on the fabric of time.

[Reapinger]

An intra-galactic network would be a nice surprise to me.

[marshalleck]

This is silly. The Milky Way galaxy is something like 100,000 light years across. That means something traveling at the speed of light would take 100,000 years to get from one side to the other. At conventional FTL speeds in the Mass Effect milieu, it would take someone ~8,333 years to travel from one side to the other. That's ****ing huge. We don't need to expand to other galaxies; there's plenty to see and do in the Milky Way.

Modifié par marshalleck, 28 juin 2011 - 02:58 .

[Weskerr]

We don't know if the Reapers exterminate life in other galaxies or not. We do not know if the Milky Way is the only galaxy the Reapers target. We don't truly know the Reaper's motives although there are many rational theories. We, as players, don't know a lot of things. It's possible that even the writers don't yet know what the whole truth is about the Reapers. It's possible that it won't be fully explained in Mass Effect 3 either.

[Mike 9987]

marshalleck wrote...

This is silly. The Milky Way galaxy is something like 100,000 light years across. That means something traveling at the speed of light would take 100,000 years to get from one side to the other. At conventional FTL speeds in the Mass Effect milieu, it would take someone ~8,333 years to travel from one side to the other. That's ****ing huge. We don't need to expand to other galaxies; there's plenty to see and do in the Milky Way.

That cant be right (game logic wise). the map on board the normandy shows the entire milky way. you can travel between lets say the minos wasteland and the nubian expanse (both being on complete oposite sides of the milky way) without "8,333 years" passing. shep and the whole crew would be dead. 

[moneycashgeorge]

Mike 9987 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

This is silly. The Milky Way galaxy is something like 100,000 light years across. That means something traveling at the speed of light would take 100,000 years to get from one side to the other. At conventional FTL speeds in the Mass Effect milieu, it would take someone ~8,333 years to travel from one side to the other. That's ****ing huge. We don't need to expand to other galaxies; there's plenty to see and do in the Milky Way.

That cant be right (game logic wise). the map on board the normandy shows the entire milky way. you can travel between lets say the minos wasteland and the nubian expanse (both being on complete oposite sides of the milky way) without "8,333 years" passing. shep and the whole crew would be dead. 

Yea, by using the relays. All long distance travel is done instantaneously via the relays. FTL is only used for nearby star systems. This is kind of a fundamental aspect of the series........................

The "8,333" is correct. Going to another galaxy, like the nearest one, Andromeda, would take many times longer. Like, 100,000 years maybe. Expanding Mass Effect to other galaxies is absurd. There is a reason why this is never done in science fiction.

[Boiny Bunny]

Err...what's to say that there aren't identical groups of Reapers performing an identical function in every galaxy in the universe? The game never specifically states that there is something different or 'special' about our galaxy - it just happens to be the setting for the game.

[darklordpocky-san]

my theory

the Reapers either continuously move from galaxy to galaxy, harvesting their resources and getting more and more advanced, or it's just because it's our galaxy and the story would probably not feel as close to home (get it?) if it took place in some other galaxy.