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[csfteeeer]

I Love both, but i feel like i have to Choose DA, for a couple of reasons, for one, i feel like the world needs a better explenation, one can take the most generic and cliched plot and universe, and just present differently, and it could fresh and original (for those who have seen movies like Moulin Rouge, you'll know what i'm talking about), and so i feel like they have to exploit the world better, because is a coherent, and interesting world, but it was explained and presented with Genericness(with that hole Epic deal), and two, i just feel more comfortable in it, i like Fantasy better than Sci Fi (Star Wars is Fantasy), and because of that i found it more interesting, but this doesn't dismiss the ME universe, they're both great, but i like DA better cause it's more for me.

[Nerdage]

Personally, I just can't get into Mass Effect as much as I can Dragon Age. There are just too many weird sci-fi hand waves for me, like the lip-sync for all species matching the English words even though they're meant to be speaking their own languages, and pretty everything to do with faster-than-light travel.

That's not to say I don't like Mass Effect, I do, a lot, but in DA I'm not periodically noticing so many little jarring details so I can get into it easier. Maybe it is just something a fantasy setting can get away with that a sci-fi setting can't, but there it is.

[element eater]

lv12medic wrote...

Lore wise, I would have to say Dragon Age. The lore just seems more immersive to me than Mass Effect. I think I scrutinize science fiction a bit more harshly than other genres, probably because I studied physics.

id go the other way maybe because i studied history?

[StartOrange]

KilrB wrote...

Both have great potential, we've barely scratched the surface of either.

The future of the DA IP doesn't look too good from where I'm standing right now.

I half expect that DA3 will see the rest of Thedas getting their hands on the Qunari's secret of black-powder and Bioware completely ditching all pretense of rpg for a full-on fps featuring the equivalent of WW1 era tech ... and magic of course.

You do realize that our worlds equivalent was invented during the Tang Dynasty in China by the 9th century, aka the first half of the medieval era? Is it impossible that it exists and spreads in the DA universe? Or cannot black powder exist simply because it's a fantasy world?

Not saying that I want to, but you are being so ridiculous that it's hard to hold back. I know that you are being ironic, but I couldn't even translate your attempt to anything that even came close to making sense.


EDIT: I actually think that Mass Effects 'fake-science' is very good compared to other sci-fi universes. Although I may have enjoyed the ME games more, I think that the DA universe is better because you can really see/feel the everyday struggle in everything from the political life to the pesants and mages. In ME, everything feels centered around "being big, goddamn heroes"... and racism.

Modifié par StartOrange, 28 juin 2011 - 03:29 .

[Foolsfolly]

Mass Effect, OP. Mass Effect every time.

I'm not going to say anything bad about the DA setting. It's a good fiction setting. It was more interesting in Origins/Awakening than it was in DA2...but I'll give that to the fact that we traveled in DA:O. We meet different cultures, learned their ways and history in ways we didn't in DA2.

But the Mass Effect universe just feels so alive, exciting, vibrant, it's just a blast.

@ MinotaurWarrior on the first page:

For the universe: ME. Eezo is simply one of the best speculative fiction devices I've ever read about. The Fade? 'Eh, I could really care less. It's your typical 'Other World' type deal. There's nothing bad about the fantastic elements of DA, but there's nothing inspiring either.

It's literally 'fae' with a D added in the middle.

And frankly, I think both games have not used the Fade to its potential. You could really do some fantastic abstract things in the Fade.

Or barring that, you could at least do something similar to the Scarecrow gassings in Batman: Arkham Asylum.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Both are getting on my nerves.

[MrFob]

They are too different to compare on the one hand since one is sci-fi and the other is fantasy.
Ironically, on the other hand, they are allmost too similar to compare since both of them are very much based on IPs that already exist and have a lot of reference to these other universes.

So I'd say that none of them is better or worse. I personally feel more affection for the Mass Effect universe but I also really like the DA one (more so before the DA2 revamp).
So it's a perfect tie if I've ever seen one.

[flexxdk]

GiggleLooper wrote...
I enjoy both genres, however thinking about it I find ME more orignal than DA. Much of the DA universe has been applied on previous francises (Dwarfs, Elves, Dragons, Trolls, Dungoens...), where ME has many orignal concepts.

You go ahead and try to create creatures that aren't used in fantasy stories and games yet. They also have to be interesting enough for the player.

[TomasKratky1]

I think that they are comparable - elaborate and complex, but I prefer sci-fi, so if I had to pick one, it would be ME universe.

[GiggleLooper]

There are some good valid arguements for both genres. There are also plenty of people sitting on the fence, I understand why they are but I was hoping that people would really give it some thought in order to pick one over the other. That way it brings out strong debate into the pros and cons of each universe.

[fchopin]

I am a sci-fi fanatic so my preference is for the ME1 universe but after the ME2 fiasco i am at the point of not caring.

But i do like both worlds.

[Thane64]

@fchopin What was wrong with ME2?

[fchopin]

Thane64 wrote...

@fchopin What was wrong with ME2?

The game became a shooter and it was no longer a story based game.
 
I like the ME universe but i want to play a story based rpg game and ME2 failed in that regard.

[Thane64]

if you say so........ no but seriously, I agree with you to a certain extent with the shooting; but it was still story based

[SkittlesKat96]

 I like Mass Effect but more because there are so many fantasy settings and titles out there. There are a lot of Sci-fi titles out there too but its rare for any of them to have a big budget or fully envision its universe. Things like Firefly and Stargate and stuff always cost so much to make and often don't show off all their potential, Mass Effect shows off its whole universe and the games keep getting bigger budgets and they'll be able to keep showing us its amazing universe.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I am not a big fan of both DA2 and ME2. Both got too dumbed down. If I had to choose then I think the ME universe is, with a few exceptions, more consistent than DA.

[DragonRageGT]

fchopin wrote...

Thane64 wrote...

@fchopin What was wrong with ME2?

The game became a shooter and it was no longer a story based game.
 
I like the ME universe but i want to play a story based rpg game and ME2 failed in that regard.

True but it has some good story (with LotSB as a must - fun, well written and amazingly developed DLC and my Shep had a thing with Liara on ME1 so it's perfect!) and it's a hell of a fun game to play and replay and replay... heh... I'm finishing another run with it and there's no comparison with DA2 too.

[Icinix]

I would have said the Dragon Age universe - prior to DA2.

Now, its Mass Effect by a galactic mile.

[MegaBadExample]

Mass Effect is better than Dragon Age.

[WidowMaker9394]

Mass Effect is more engrossing. Halo is the only other sci-fi universe I care about which might have something to do with it.

I like Dragon Age but it doesn't hold a candle to some of the other fantasy universes out there.

[Guitar-Hero]

I always thought that the DA-universe was far more interesting, it has so much potential and the lore is really thought through, however as a far as games go it doesn't come close to ME.

[cloudberserker]

I don't really like the "Ancient race of evil machines wants to destroy everything" part of the ME's universe, but I find the lore in general much more interesting.

[Foolsfolly]

simfamSP wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Thane64 wrote...

@fchopin What was wrong with ME2?

The game became a shooter and it was no longer a story based game.
 
I like the ME universe but i want to play a story based rpg game and ME2 failed in that regard.

Let's see...

ME2

Story? Check. I don't know what your expecting for a filler, but that's as good as it can get.

RPG? Check. Moral choices, experience, leveling, skills, character development, all there.

Just because it's combat is very action orientated, does not mean it's less of an RPG.

There is a very vocal group of Mass Effect fans who see that BioWare decided to create decent third-person shooter mechanics and decide that it's all ruined.

A part of me, a very petty part of me, thinks they cannot shoot and thus it's the game's fault.