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[Kronner]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Great video?

This has to be a bad joke.

Why? He has valid points. Not everyone has to like everything BioWare does.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You gotta love a thread in which someone goes 'here's a video of someone giving his thoughts', and rather than any sort of debate about, you know, the validity of the thoughts, you get pages of 'I ****ing hate the guy, he's stupid stupid stupid.'

You must not have been around when he was actually on the forums. Dark days those were....

Mesina2 wrote...

Not really, just that franchise had very little if not anything new to offer with each game.

Then again Mass Effect 3 taking blades?
Big whoopdy doo, I'm pretty sure there are other games before Halo that done that.

While I agree with that, I'm almost certain that I've never seen/heard of an energy blade like that in another game. Prove me wrong though. 


-Polite

[Dean_the_Young]

"I don't like or respect him. Therefore, I can do whatever I want because I'm justified."

Really? This isn't ****ing kindergarten.

[Dean_the_Young]

[quote]PoliteAssasin wrote...

[quote]Dean_the_Young wrote...

You gotta love a thread in which someone goes 'here's a video of someone giving his thoughts', and rather than any sort of debate about, you know, the validity of the thoughts, you get pages of 'I ****ing hate the guy, he's stupid stupid stupid.'[/quote]

You must not have been around when he was actually on the forums. Dark days those were....[/quote]Oh, I was. And if you treated him like you would treat anyone else who is prone to take offense, you could get some very interesting perspectives from him.


[quote]Mesina2 wrote...

Not really, just that franchise had very little if not anything new to offer with each game.

Then again Mass Effect 3 taking blades?
Big whoopdy doo, I'm pretty sure there are other games before Halo that done that.

[/quote]

While I agree with that, I'm almost certain that I've never seen/heard of an energy blade like that in another game. Prove me wrong though. 


-Polite
[/quote]Lightsabers from Star Wars, Beam Sabers from the Gundam franchise. Lightning blades from generic fantasy...

[Thompson family]

Captain Crash wrote...

Smudboy gets a bad rap, he does bring up some good issues. But often he presents them in a very biased way. This video isnt one of his best and just compounds that biased label hes been given.

^This. The first time I watched one of Smudboy's videos, it started out landing some good punches -- then quickly degenerated into a rant.

[Xeranx]

LPPrince wrote...

This is my question-

Why do people constantly put his videos up here? I don't get it.

Smudboy was banned from the BSN a loooooong time ago, yet people here STILL talk about him as if they expect him to come in here and read all of the reactions.

If you hate him so much, don't talk about him. That's it. Because the more you do, the more he'll love the amount of attention he gets from people he can't even speak to anymore.

And for those who like his stuff, go ahead and bring up the subjects he talks about, but I feel like you're waving around the name "Smudboy" just to get hits in your thread. Like its controversial or something.

Seriously folks. Where is the sense in any of this, really.

For some it might be the idea of causing a stir, but for others it might be that it's someting they want Bioware to look at.  It doesn't matter much.  I can assume that Bioware likely react much like all the people who say they hate him (just because) without giving any points of his any merit... because some of his points do have merit.  Which is to say their behavior is immature.

In any case, those who want to hate him because he was rude (yeah, there wasn't a back and forth, right?) to them  --you know letting things go and looking at what's being discussed rather than letting your past history plug up your ears and blur your vision-- end up serving as popcorn entertainment for me.  Those who wish to discuss his points serve as a different type of entertainment that allows me to engage in a more mature manner.

Modifié par Xeranx, 27 juin 2011 - 04:31 .

[Ahriman]

I hope 'brilliant' is a sarcasm. Yes, marketing is derpy, but just remember DA2's marketing. That was just pain to see.

[Eurhetemec]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Well the omni blade is pretty much a rip off of the Energy Blade the Elites use in Halo Reach. Wouldn't be the first thing Mass Effect stole from another franchise.

The only difference is that ME's blade comes out of the omni tool, but it's pretty much the same.

-Polite

I love how people think Halo "invented" all this stuff, instead of just taking it all from other sources.

Halo didn't invent the idea of a hand-mounted energy-blade, Polite (and the ME blade isn't an an energy-blade - it's an actual metal blade with a holographic overlay - as you can see on the cover of the box). That's just where you saw it first. Thinking ME is "ripping off" Halo for that is like thinking that the Star Wars movies were "ripping off" the original Battlestar Galactica or something. Or more topically, that Halo came up with the idea of a cyborg space marine, rather than it, y'know, having been a sci-fi trope for decades.

Even just in computer games, certainly the Protoss in Starcraft had wrist-mounted energy blades years before Halo came out. They existed in comic books and table-top RPGs for years before that, too, which is the real origin-point.

Modifié par Eurhetemec, 27 juin 2011 - 04:39 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

squee913 > smudboy. That is all.

[Mister Mida]

Khambilo wrote...

To me definitely, which was my original point.  And while I don't find squee's question pointless after smud spends more that 7 hours on critiquing ME2 alone, the fact remains that it's all left up to taste. Subjective.

Smud feels the way he feels abou the series from his point of view.  He contests this by picking on the writing with plot holes and such, but many are so insignificant that they don't matter.  He argument about Shepards body is the perfect example. Smud explains that it broke his immersion in the story to have a moment that farfetched.  For me it didn't, even after he pointed it out. Subjectivity.

Example: Millions of people can flock to Transformers 2 and love it, while critics can come up with a long list of things thats wrong with it.  And even if many Transformers-lovers heard the critiques they would continue liking it, because it's just their thing. 

As for me, I'm going to keep liking the ME series regardless of what one guy on the internet trying to get under people's skins has to say.

True, in the end it's all subjective. Some see errors in the narrative, some don't. That doesn't make it any less funny to watch how people take his opinion so damn seriously, even though they don't agree with it . It's getting close to 'fighting' smudboy.

Anyway, where did I left my popcorn?

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

squee913 > smudboy. That is all.

This cracked me up too.



*eats some more popcorn*

Modifié par Mister Mida, 27 juin 2011 - 05:04 .

[this isnt my name]

Kronner wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Great video?

This has to be a bad joke.

Why? He has valid points. Not everyone has to like everything BioWare does.

Shhh dont criticise the game, if you do you will get zerg rushed, look at this, the guy brings up valid points but people just insult him, becuase mass effect has amazing gameplay and a perfect story with no holes or absence of logic whatsoever.

[Il Divo]

this isnt my name wrote...

Shhh dont criticise the game, if you do you will get zerg rushed, look at this, the guy brings up valid points but people just insult him, becuase mass effect has amazing gameplay and a perfect story with no holes or absence of logic whatsoever.

Criticism is always applicable, but a while back another poster put it best: "It's far easier to criticize than to create".
Many of Smud's criticisms are spot on, but at times he focuses on the tiniest details. It feels like he picks up a hammer, smashes the game into tiny pieces, then complains why they won't fit back together again.

Modifié par Il Divo, 27 juin 2011 - 05:16 .

[javierabegazo]

Mesina2 wrote...

You mean another FAILURE from smudboy?

Every single thing he said there is either wrong or explained but he did poor job in finding every info.


Also no mention of News Report trailer, S/S romances and FemShep in marketing.

There's no point in mentioning something that detracts from your argument

[javierabegazo]

this isnt my name wrote...

Shhh dont criticise the game, if you do you will get zerg rushed, look at this, the guy brings up valid points but people just insult him, becuase mass effect has amazing gameplay and a perfect story with no holes or absence of logic whatsoever.

But by not mentioning anything of the aspects that don't directly support his argument, he simply seems 2D, one-sided and weak.

[NICKjnp]

Smudboy made some good points...and I usually don't like his arguments.

[javierabegazo]

Eurhetemec wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Well the omni blade is pretty much a rip off of the Energy Blade the Elites use in Halo Reach. Wouldn't be the first thing Mass Effect stole from another franchise.

The only difference is that ME's blade comes out of the omni tool, but it's pretty much the same.

-Polite

I love how people think Halo "invented" all this stuff, instead of just taking it all from other sources.

Halo didn't invent the idea of a hand-mounted energy-blade, Polite (and the ME blade isn't an an energy-blade - it's an actual metal blade with a holographic overlay - as you can see on the cover of the box). That's just where you saw it first. Thinking ME is "ripping off" Halo for that is like thinking that the Star Wars movies were "ripping off" the original Battlestar Galactica or something. Or more topically, that Halo came up with the idea of a cyborg space marine, rather than it, y'know, having been a sci-fi trope for decades.

Even just in computer games, certainly the Protoss in Starcraft had wrist-mounted energy blades years before Halo came out. They existed in comic books and table-top RPGs for years before that, too, which is the real origin-point.

Another great point.

[NICKjnp]

I just don't know how you stab someone with a hologram...is it to scare them to death or something like that?

[littlezack]

NICKjnp wrote...

I just don't know how you stab someone with a hologram...is it to scare them to death or something like that?

People keep saying that, but it's like they never played ME2. Do you remember the AI drones? The shield that the Shadow Broker had? Kasumi using her omni-tool to smack people in the face? Hell, even in ME1, there were holograms that could actually hurt you, if Pinnacle Station is considered canon.

It's not some new thing, it's just taking an existing idea and expanding on it.

[Captain Crash]

NICKjnp wrote...

I just don't know how you stab someone with a hologram...is it to scare them to death or something like that?

Guess you never saw any Star Trek episodes where the saftey protocols got turned off.


Its a new idea for the series so I understand concern with it how it works and from a gameplay perspective.  However its been done in sci-fi countless times before so I struggle to see why its so difficult to comprehend (Lightsabers, Rimmer hologram on Red Dwarf, the Doctors mobile emitter, ect)  

Modifié par Captain Crash, 27 juin 2011 - 05:30 .

[Computer_God91]

Watch, this guy is probably the biggest fanboy of the series and he does this for fun.

He probably spanks it to ME every night, lol.

[Therefore_I_Am]

lol, smudboy. What a loser.

[NICKjnp]

I saw those star trek episodes...but ME loves to stress "hard science".