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Yet another brilliant Smudboy video about the Mass Effect 3 Marketing so far.


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NICKjnp wrote...

I saw those star trek episodes...but ME loves to stress "hard science".


Since when? When has ME ever shown any real signs of being 'hard science'?

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littlezack wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

I saw those star trek episodes...but ME loves to stress "hard science".


Since when? When has ME ever shown any real signs of being 'hard science'?


In ME1 it was billed as being hard science.  They said everything they were doing was in some way based on what science at the time says is possible.

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Mass Effect broke away from "hard science" the moment the Normandy entered the mass relay and when Shepard found the Prothean beacon on Eden Prime.

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I'm a smudboy fangirl! :wub: His videos make me squee! <3 

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NICKjnp wrote...

littlezack wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

I saw those star trek episodes...but ME loves to stress "hard science".


Since when? When has ME ever shown any real signs of being 'hard science'?


In ME1 it was billed as being hard science.  They said everything they were doing was in some way based on what science at the time says is possible.


And Bioware also said Dragon Age is dark fantasy

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This is the same guy who gives praises to DA2 story, but belittles ME story. Epic fail.


He praised DA2 story?

You almost made me watch his DA2 plot analysis.


Yes, he did and honestly his points where well made. He belittled aspects of DA2 that fell apart, like Anders being an idiot but Gaider being... well Anders. :P

To be fair, his hostility is not to ME2 as a whole but to the main plot. He has openly called the characters some of the best in gaming. The only two he something of a dislike toward was Grunt and Jacob. Kasumi and Thane were more how useless they were to the plot, then a loathing toward them specifically. Nevertheless to each their known but I found much of his criticism against ME2 is justified. The main plot was rubbish.

People need not be so serious though. He did a mock shot with ME2's marketing. Hell, I have to admit there are times I want to shout, "BioWare, put down Gears of War for bloody sake!" Seriously, they are getting carried copying that game even if I like the addition of the omni-blade. What I find makes BioWare an easy target of ridicule is their tendency to spew, "new" and "innovating" at everything they do. Grenades were in ME1 guys. You just left them out, they are not new.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 27 juin 2011 - 05:50 .


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This guy must have his whine and nitpick skills maxed out.

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Here are my issues with Smudboy and this video especially. @ 2:08 Smudboy says the Omni-Blade does nothing, and then proceeds to ONLY show the one time that the Omni-blade wasn't an insta-kill

1. We don't know what difficulty the game was set to.
2. We see several one-hit kills with the Omni-blade in several ME3 E3 demos

@2:38 Smudboy picks apart Jesse Houston saying the omni-blade is a "holographic switch-blade", picking it apart in the literal sense.

1. Jesse used switch-blade in the way that its a melee weapon that isn't always out and ready

@3:07 Smudboy picks apart the Logo graphic of Shepard pulling out the switchblade, bickering about which arm the omniblade is on, and most ridiculously, "the sharp edge coming out" as if an energy weapon might have a dull and sharp side like some knives in real life.

@3:43 Smudboy asks why all classes have an omni-blade.
Developers have said that each class will have its own close range combat skill.

@5:43 Jesse says that they brought a new weapon, the frag grenade. Smudboy then shows ME1 footage of shepard shooting the ME1 "grenade". If you follow the footage of Jesse talking more, he says that its new because it's a ballistic grenade that can bounce off walls, rather than just stick to any surface.


@5:58 Smudboy makes similarities of the "grotesque violence" of Gears of War to Mass Effect.

1. There is no gratuitous gore coming out of enemies in Mass Effect.
2. Shattering frozen enemies has been in Mass Effect since the original.

And then towards the end, Smudboy basically says that all the ME marketing is just "OMG Button awesome happens" compared the finesse of Deus Ex 3, but leaves out the Trailer of ME3 with Big Ben sniper, and the fake live action trailer of news reporters being attacked.



All of this just cements Smudboy as a 2D troll with too much time on his hands, and a job in real life that obviously isn't rewarding enough.



TL:DR ? Smudboy loves being sensational

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Mass Effect broke away from "hard science" the moment the Normandy entered the mass relay and when Shepard found the Prothean beacon on Eden Prime.


Thank you.

I mean, really.  Sentient warships from the edge of the galaxy. A monogendered race that looks exactly like blue earth women. A gigantic, mind-controlling plant.

Hard science, my ass.

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NICKjnp wrote...

I saw those star trek episodes...but ME loves to stress "hard science".


See my sig.  That is what you sound like.

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javierabegazo wrote...

Here are my issues with Smudboy and this video especially. @ 2:08 Smudboy says the Omni-Blade does nothing, and then proceeds to ONLY show the one time that the Omni-blade wasn't an insta-kill

1. We don't know what difficulty the game was set to.
2. We see several one-hit kills with the Omni-blade in several ME3 E3 demos

@2:38 Smudboy picks apart Jesse Houston saying the omni-blade is a "holographic switch-blade", picking it apart in the literal sense.

1. Jesse used switch-blade in the way that its a melee weapon that isn't always out and ready

@3:07 Smudboy picks apart the Logo graphic of Shepard pulling out the switchblade, bickering about which arm the omniblade is on, and most ridiculously, "the sharp edge coming out" as if an energy weapon might have a dull and sharp side like some knives in real life.

@3:43 Smudboy asks why all classes have an omni-blade.
Developers have said that each class will have its own close range combat skill.

@5:43 Jesse says that they brought a new weapon, the frag grenade. Smudboy then shows ME1 footage of shepard shooting the ME1 "grenade". If you follow the footage of Jesse talking more, he says that its new because it's a ballistic grenade that can bounce off walls, rather than just stick to any surface.


@5:58 Smudboy makes similarities of the "grotesque violence" of Gears of War to Mass Effect.

1. There is no gratuitous gore coming out of enemies in Mass Effect.
2. Shattering frozen enemies has been in Mass Effect since the original.

And then towards the end, Smudboy basically says that all the ME marketing is just "OMG Button awesome happens" compared the finesse of Deus Ex 3, but leaves out the Trailer of ME3 with Big Ben sniper, and the fake live action trailer of news reporters being attacked.



All of this just cements Smudboy as a 2D troll with too much time on his hands, and a job in real life that obviously isn't rewarding enough.



TL:DR ? Smudboy loves being sensational


Ha. It's so true.

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aftohsix wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

I saw those star trek episodes...but ME loves to stress "hard science".


See my sig.  That is what you sound like.


Is it necessary to insult people?

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The problem with fair, level headed arguments and logic, is that it's simply not as entertaining. And well, most of us come to the internet for entertainment.

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The big thing from his video that is true about Voice Recognition. I'm ashamed to say it, but I DO have Hey You Pikachu, and that entire GAME is based off of voice recognition. Pretty good too. Too bad the game is boring as sin.

And I don't particularly like the Omni-blade either. One of the big things that I liked about Mass Effect was that it was a RPG that was all gun based weaponry and tech for the most part. I know the Omni-blade is as well, but it just seems kind of lame. I would have taken Sheperd doing some close combat punches any day over the blade. But I did laugh at the "IT DOES NOTHING!" Part.

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@NICKjnp and aftohsix

Lets not carry this conversation further please.

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javierabegazo wrote...

Here are my issues with Smudboy and this video especially. @ 2:08 Smudboy says the Omni-Blade does nothing, and then proceeds to ONLY show the one time that the Omni-blade wasn't an insta-kill

1. We don't know what difficulty the game was set to.
2. We see several one-hit kills with the Omni-blade in several ME3 E3 demos

@2:38 Smudboy picks apart Jesse Houston saying the omni-blade is a "holographic switch-blade", picking it apart in the literal sense.

1. Jesse used switch-blade in the way that its a melee weapon that isn't always out and ready

@3:07 Smudboy picks apart the Logo graphic of Shepard pulling out the switchblade, bickering about which arm the omniblade is on, and most ridiculously, "the sharp edge coming out" as if an energy weapon might have a dull and sharp side like some knives in real life.

@3:43 Smudboy asks why all classes have an omni-blade.
Developers have said that each class will have its own close range combat skill.

@5:43 Jesse says that they brought a new weapon, the frag grenade. Smudboy then shows ME1 footage of shepard shooting the ME1 "grenade". If you follow the footage of Jesse talking more, he says that its new because it's a ballistic grenade that can bounce off walls, rather than just stick to any surface.


@5:58 Smudboy makes similarities of the "grotesque violence" of Gears of War to Mass Effect.

1. There is no gratuitous gore coming out of enemies in Mass Effect.
2. Shattering frozen enemies has been in Mass Effect since the original.

And then towards the end, Smudboy basically says that all the ME marketing is just "OMG Button awesome happens" compared the finesse of Deus Ex 3, but leaves out the Trailer of ME3 with Big Ben sniper, and the fake live action trailer of news reporters being attacked.



All of this just cements Smudboy as a 2D troll with too much time on his hands, and a job in real life that obviously isn't rewarding enough.



TL:DR ? Smudboy loves being sensational


Well said! Wonder what he has to say about this...

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Why does anyone even care what smudboy has to say?

He's good at exactly two things: complaining and whining.

A good reviewer has to be unbiased. You approach a product with a clean slate and rate it based on what it does right, and what it doesn't.  Unlike smudboy you don't approach the product with a grudge against the company releasing it and with the goal of finding things wrong with it no matter what it takes, so you can bash it and the company that produced it. I think he also enjoys the attention he gets from negative reviews.

A lot of his complaints are also either dead wrong or blown way out of proportion. People, just forget about him and let him crawl back under that rock he came out from.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 27 juin 2011 - 05:55 .


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And as much as I love Deus Ex: Human Revolution,
http://youtu.be/i6JTvzrpBy0?t=2m37s
"I'll Take you to hell" yelled by a gigantic guy with a folding minigun out of his arm.

Really?

Sorry Smudboy, but some things about DE:3 are equally stupid.

Modifié par javierabegazo, 27 juin 2011 - 05:57 .


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NICKjnp wrote...

Is it necessary to insult people?


I'm sorry.  Hug?  I was just commenting on the "hard science" bit.  In the clip Roman says:  "I'm into hard sci-fi.  Fantasy is bull****"

My favorite part of the video is when he cuts to the Deus Ex 3 trailer, which is entirely cinematic, no gameplay whatsoever.  It'd be funny if it turned out to be a straight up corridor FPS (it won't.)

Modifié par aftohsix, 27 juin 2011 - 06:02 .


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Computer_God91 wrote...

Watch, this guy is probably the biggest fanboy of the series and he does this for fun.

He probably spanks it to ME every night, lol.


He's just some disgruntled little snot from the ME1 era who got his panties in a twist because ME2 was different. So now he goes on a crusade that probably takes away his life when bashing Mass Effect.

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I clicked on the link and now I feel dirty.

The worst part about it though is that even though I know what too expect from all these smudboy ME2/ME3 videos and I know I should ignore them I often walk away feeling as if he has raised soime interesting points.

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So he has a problem with the omni-blade, but big guys with gatling guns built into their arms is just fine?

Okay...

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Huh? Since when has smudboy showed a sense of humour? Most interesting...


If you're meaning the 'brilliant' thing than sure it was funny, but it was obvious.

The video wasn't as bad as his other explanation vids of ME2, but still he left out very much. The game is still in development, you know?

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@javierabgazo

Amen.

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I'll give you all the points you brought up, javier. Except for this:

javierabegazo wrote...

@5:43 Jesse says that they brought a new weapon, the frag grenade. Smudboy then shows ME1 footage of shepard shooting the ME1 "grenade". If you follow the footage of Jesse talking more, he says that its new because it's a ballistic grenade that can bounce off walls, rather than just stick to any surface.


If you pay attention at the Fall of Earth trailer you'll see that Shepard throws a disk like thing, aka the 'new' grenade. It's the same grenade as in ME (1). The only difference (besides the bouncing) is that Shepard throws it differently. I hardly call that new. Improved is the only word that can be used here. I'm not gonna bother with the issues it now has from an earodynamic point of view.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 27 juin 2011 - 06:08 .