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[Jaron Oberyn]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
]Lightsabers from Star Wars, Beam Sabers from the Gundam franchise. Lightning blades from generic fantasy...

But do the lightsabers from starwars or the beam sabers from gundam look like the wrist blade from halo reach? Nope.

Eurhetemec wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Well the omni blade is pretty much a rip off of the Energy Blade the Elites use in Halo Reach. Wouldn't be the first thing Mass Effect stole from another franchise.

The only difference is that ME's blade comes out of the omni tool, but it's pretty much the same.

-Polite

I love how people think Halo "invented" all this stuff, instead of just taking it all from other sources.

Halo didn't invent the idea of a hand-mounted energy-blade, Polite (and the ME blade isn't an an energy-blade - it's an actual metal blade with a holographic overlay - as you can see on the cover of the box). That's just where you saw it first. Thinking ME is "ripping off" Halo for that is like thinking that the Star Wars movies were "ripping off" the original Battlestar Galactica or something. Or more topically, that Halo came up with the idea of a cyborg space marine, rather than it, y'know, having been a sci-fi trope for decades.

Even just in computer games, certainly the Protoss in Starcraft had wrist-mounted energy blades years before Halo came out. They existed in comic books and table-top RPGs for years before that, too, which is the real origin-point.

Where did I say halo invented it? When I'm referring to an energy blade, I'm not referring to lightsabers, I'm referring to the dagger that the elites used in Halo Reach. I even provided a picture. It's the exact same thing, except it's orange and comes out of the omni tool. It's the exact same concept as Halo Reach. What is it with people acting as if Mass Effect came up with everything it has? I can give you a few examples myself where that simply isn't true. For example, names: Ithorian from starwars, Thorian from Mass Effect. Selonian from starwars, Salarian from Mass Effect. Quarren from Star Wars, Quarian from Mass Effect. Drall from Star Wars, Drell from Mass Effect. Coincidence? Don't think so. And this is just in regards to names. If you're goingt o take inspiration from another source, at least alter it where it isn't 90% of what you're basing it off of. I'm sure that wrist mounted energy blades existed, but did they look exactly like the one in Halo Reach? Doubt it.


-Polite

Edit: Surprised that Zulu hasn't shown up to defend smudboy. Was he banned recently?

Modifié par PoliteAssasin, 27 juin 2011 - 07:46 .

[javierabegazo]

Siansonea II wrote...

I like Smudboy's videos because they raise good questions. I don't often agree with his answers to those questions though. But the questions themselves, they're worth discussing. He seems to have a very circumscribed idea of what is and what is not quality entertainment, and I could never get behind such a rigid viewpoint. But there are some issues with some of the games he's talked about that I also find disconcerting, and though I probably would resolve those issues differently from his suggested fixes, it's good that he discusses them and throws out ideas for solutions. Too bad those discussions come too late to actually do anything about the games in question though.

What BioWare needs is their own internal "devil's advocate" who rips apart the writing during the development process, so the writers at least have the opportunity to have an "oh yeah, that doesn't make sense" moment—and fix it before it's put into the games.

What "good questions" did he raise? He doesn't ask them in any sensible way, but in the way that that stupid bully with a big forehead in your elementary school math class would demand for your milk money.


All of his "points" I addressed in this post. - Yet another brilliant Smudboy video about the Mass Effect 3 Marketing so far. (Mass Effect 3 - Mass Effect 3 General Discussion) | BioWare Social Network

[Sgt Stryker]

The PLC wrote...

What's up with the Omni balde thing where the enemy takes no damage? Was that a glitch?

Most likely. The game is, after all, still 8 months away.

[javierabegazo]

PoliteAssasin wrote...
-snip-

Even the concept of throw backs to other fiction isn't so much "ripping off" as it is a Shout out. But I guess that's just all perspective. Half empty, Half full.

[CroGamer002]

The PLC wrote...

What's up with the Omni balde thing where the enemy takes no damage? Was that a glitch?

Yes, in live Demo.

Modifié par Mesina2, 27 juin 2011 - 07:52 .

[javierabegazo]

scyphozoa wrote...

Really? That is your definition of "Brilliant?"

I think someone should buy a dictionary. 

Well for what it's worth, the Fixer0, the OP has yet to post in this thread at all aside from his beginning post.

[Chala]

Is this video safe to see? or it will melt my brain?
I'm still recovering from the damage caused by the other videos that this guy made...

[PantokratorII]

regarding the reference to the atomic weight of iron, I just started thinking about stars: When a star begins to produce iron it has seconds left to live and will (if its mass is big enough) explode. maybe its relevant to Haestrom acting weird or some sort of weapon. Or maybe I am just speeding out of a tangent?

[javierabegazo]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Is this video safe to see? or it will melt my brain?
I'm still recovering from the damage caused by the other videos that this guy made...

In the past, regarding ME1 and ME2 plot, Smudboy has occaisionally brought up funny stuff regarding writing, This seems to more be about:
Hate for David Silvermann, and taking a lot of stuff out of context

[javierabegazo]

PantokratorII wrote...

regarding the reference to the atomic weight of iron, I just started thinking about stars: When a star begins to produce iron it has seconds left to live and will (if its mass is big enough) explode. maybe its relevant to Haestrom acting weird or some sort of weapon. Or maybe I am just speeding out of a tangent?

Hint to secret weapon to destroy the reapers? 

[Mister Mida]

javierabegazo wrote...

What "good questions" did he raise? He doesn't ask them in any sensible way, but in the way that that stupid bully with a big forehead in your elementary school math class would demand for your milk money.


All of his "points" I addressed in this post. - Yet another brilliant Smudboy video about the Mass Effect 3 Marketing so far. (Mass Effect 3 - Mass Effect 3 General Discussion) | BioWare Social Network

And yet you haven't responded to my counter argument concerning the grenades...

[Stanley Woo]

Let's try to keep this thread Mass Effect 3 related, rather than Smudboy related. Discussing the points he brings up in his video are fine, attacking Smudboy himself is not appropriate for this community. thank you.

[atheelogos]

I don't agree with everything he says, but I like him.

[100k]

scyphozoa wrote...

Really? That is your definition of "Brilliant?"

I think someone should buy a dictionary. 

You don't think he's being sarcastic?

I agree with Smudboy on many of his points on ME1 and ME2. He definitely gets a bad rep, because genuinely good arguments for or against the content of the games turn into a personal rant.

This, however, is just a little too trollish. I get that he's confused about the omni-blade. Many of us are. But an in-game codex should explain how it (and tech armor) work.

However, nitpicking what developers and play testers are saying is a little much. If someone says that Shepard will be flying around the Universe, any person with a brain understands that BW meant "galaxy".

[javierabegazo]

Mister Mida wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

What "good questions" did he raise? He doesn't ask them in any sensible way, but in the way that that stupid bully with a big forehead in your elementary school math class would demand for your milk money.


All of his "points" I addressed in this post. - Yet another brilliant Smudboy video about the Mass Effect 3 Marketing so far. (Mass Effect 3 - Mass Effect 3 General Discussion) | BioWare Social Network

And yet you haven't responded to my counter argument concerning the grenades...

No, you and me just have different views as to whether or not the 'grenades' in ME1 were actually Grenades as I think of them.

A grenade to me, is something that you throw, and it can bounce around, then goes boom off of it's own timer.

In ME1, those (to me) were simply Mines that you can detonate, like C4 or semtex

[javierabegazo]

100k wrote...



However, nitpicking what developers and play testers are saying is a little much. If someone says that Shepard will be flying around the Universe, any person with a brain understands that BW meant "galaxy".

This personally is what I don't like. It seems more like an attack rather than a genuine fair critique.

[Welsh Inferno]

javierabegazo wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

What "good questions" did he raise? He doesn't ask them in any sensible way, but in the way that that stupid bully with a big forehead in your elementary school math class would demand for your milk money.


All of his "points" I addressed in this post. - Yet another brilliant Smudboy video about the Mass Effect 3 Marketing so far. (Mass Effect 3 - Mass Effect 3 General Discussion) | BioWare Social Network

And yet you haven't responded to my counter argument concerning the grenades...

No, you and me just have different views as to whether or not the 'grenades' in ME1 were actually Grenades as I think of them.

A grenade to me, is something that you throw, and it can bounce around, then goes boom off of it's own timer.

In ME1, those (to me) were simply Mines that you can detonate, like C4 or semtex

Garrus has a Proximity Mines(i think its called that) talent now. Maybe that is the old style grenades..

[Mister Mida]

javierabegazo wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

And yet you haven't responded to my counter argument concerning the grenades...

No, you and me just have different views as to whether or not the 'grenades' in ME1 were actually Grenades as I think of them.

A grenade to me, is something that you throw, and it can bounce around, then goes boom off of it's own timer.

In ME1, those (to me) were simply Mines that you can detonate, like C4 or semtex

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

[HTTP 404]

smudboy is a professional hater

[javierabegazo]

Mister Mida wrote...

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

Ok

Here's the ME1 wiki on Grenades.
http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Grenades

All that said, I'm not terribly impressed with having 'actual' grenades in ME3, but it doesn't bother me so much because I really only play as Adept, Vanguard and Infiltrator.

[Phaedon]

I for one, don't get why everyone uses the energy blade argument when it has been confirmed that it is not an energy blade.

[CroGamer002]

^Where's your goddamn Engineer mister!

[Fiery Phoenix]

This is definitely not Smud's best video, I agree.