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[Jessihatt]

You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".
You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

[ADLegend21]

Cuz Kaidan's one sexy fine piece of ass and Sheploo is grinning at him. duh.

[AngelicMachinery]

CommanderJessica wrote...

You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".
You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

I know this is a shock,  but some people don't really advertise their sexuality.  There isn't a reason for Kaidan to express his interest in men.  The man doesn't seem to be the type to talk openly about much from his past (At least in my opinion.)  

[VirtualStranger]

GreenSoda wrote...

VirtualStranger wrote...

They are whatever sexuality they expressed possesing. Kaidain expressed being straight -if now, in ME3, he turns out bi, there better be a reason besides "I was always bi, lol".

False. He expressed being attracted to women. That does not mean that he is not attracted to men.

Sexual preference isn't like the light-side/darkside bar in KotOR, but more like the paragon/renagede bars. The level of attraction to both groups are separate desires and are not linked together.

Also (somewhat) false. He expressed interest in women and at the same time he didn't express any interest in men. That at least would indicate that he likes men significantly *less* than women...if so I would like to know why in ME3 (or at least have this adressed).

Then it seems that you don't really understand bisexuality. Being bi does not mean that they are attacted to both groups equally, just that they are attracted to both groups.

Modifié par VirtualStranger, 27 juin 2011 - 09:49 .

[MACharlie1]

CommanderJessica wrote...

You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".
You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

I'm not sure how things are in the future but typically, even if your bisexual, telling a girl your interested in that your also into guys might be a turn off. 

[shepskisaac]

CommanderJessica wrote...

You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".
You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

Why would he say it? This is not about whether Kaidan thinks it's right/acceptable for FemShep to be bi/lesbian, this is not about cheering FemShep up. This is a scene where Kaidan is interested in FemShep and rivals with someone else. They're discussing who FemShep will chose, it's not about Kaidan. He simply says that he didn't realize FemShep liked women. In what way telling her "I like guys too" would be relevant to the scene or to Shep in that context?

[Medhia Nox]

Why does femShep or maleShep exclusive encounters matter at all?

If I play a maleShep - then femShep never existed. So any dialogue there doesn't count - at all.

====

If I play a Paragon and kill Morinth - does she ALSO survive because she can in someone elses game?

[Rinji the Bearded]

CommanderJessica wrote...

You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".
You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

Yeah, that's... not realistic at all. 

[Maugrim]

CommanderJessica wrote...

You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".
You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

I think Kaidan was too preoccupied with the fact that he had to compete  with Liara for femshep's attention.  Can you blame the guy, I mean really not much you can do against a species designd as fanservice by the devs own admission

MACharlie1 wrote...

I'm not sure how things are in the future but typically, even if your bisexual, telling a girl your interested in that your also into guys might be a turn off. 

Indeed consider the people in this thread, while I'm sure most of humanity has evolved past such sillines there are probably still some throwbacks.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 27 juin 2011 - 09:46 .

[Jessihatt]

 

MACharlie1 wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...
You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

I'm not sure how things are in the future but typically, even if your bisexual, telling a girl your interested in that your also into guys might be a turn off.

Why would it be a turn off? They're all adults in the situation and such.I'm not saying he *SHOULD* have told her then, I'm just saying it would have made sense if he did.I'm not against the s/s romances, I just think it wouldn't make much sense for Kaidan - even though, yes, you could say not everyone knows their sexuality even in their mid 30s and stuff.His sexuality status has no impact on my games whatsoever anywho 
Was just discussing the possibilities.

[KawaiiKatie]

Montezuma IV wrote...

Do you actually care about Kaidan? Are you going to romance him anytime soon?

Just the option to flirt with Kaidan would "ruin" his character for some people. Or, heaven forbid, if he flirted with them. Their epic bromance would be ruined forever! Kaidan would be irrevocably retconned! They'd never be able to look at him the same way again!

Oh, but when Tali did it, is was okay. Her crush was obvious from the beginning. <_<

[Raanz]

Siansonea II wrote...

I think it is SO telling that of everything going on in the real world and the Mass Effect world, THIS is the issue everyone gets worked up over.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, THIS subject, whether or not Kaidan Alenko is bisexual or exclusively heterosexual, THIS is what the players care about. Oddly enough, the majority of these Concerned Players are not card-carrying Kaidan fans who frequent the Kaidan fan thread and kibbutz about Brain Camp and Rhana and Vyrrnus and whatnot. Nope, they just don't want their "bro" to be "gay". It's times like these that I seriously question the BSN's lack of a "facepalm" emoticon graphic.

And this is why I think middle schools should be year-round rather than having summers off. <_<

http://social.biowar...5/index/7625505

[GreenSoda]

VirtualStranger wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...
Also (somewhat) false. He expressed interest in women and at the same time he didn't express any interest in men. That at least would indicate that he likes men significantly *less* than women...if so I would like to know why in ME3 (or at least have this adressed).

Then it seems that you don't really understand bisexuality. Being bi DOES NOT mean that they are attacted to both groups equally, just that they are attracted to both groups.

Ok let's put it differently. In ME1 Kaidan was interested in femshep (he mentioned her being "special")...but he was not interested in maleshep whatsoever. I simply want that adressed if suddenly in ME3 Kaidan somehow is interested in maleshep.

[Maugrim]

CommanderJessica wrote...

 

MACharlie1 wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...
You'd think if Kaidan was bi, he'd have said something when he says he didn't realise femshep was into girls (when Liara starts flirting). He seemed kinda shocked it hadn't come up in conversation or anything. Femshep then either says "yeah, I like girls too" (even though Liara is monogendered) or says "you've got it all wrong".You'd think Kaidan would be like "It's cool if you like girls too, I like guys too" or something to that effect.

I'm not sure how things are in the future but typically, even if your bisexual, telling a girl your interested in that your also into guys might be a turn off.

Why would it be a turn off? They're all adults in the situation and such.I'm not saying he *SHOULD* have told her then, I'm just saying it would have made sense if he did.I'm not against the s/s romances, I just think it wouldn't make much sense for Kaidan - even though, yes, you could say not everyone knows their sexuality even in their mid 30s and stuff.His sexuality status has no impact on my games whatsoever anywho 
Was just discussing the possibilities.

For what it's worth I don't think anyone was really attacking you though it may have seemed like the pro bi Kaidan crowd jumped you all at once since I think you got like 4-5 responses in a minute.  I swear we didn't plan it, you just got "lucky" 

[VirtualStranger]

GreenSoda wrote...

VirtualStranger wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...
Also (somewhat) false. He expressed interest in women and at the same time he didn't express any interest in men. That at least would indicate that he likes men significantly *less* than women...if so I would like to know why in ME3 (or at least have this adressed).

Then it seems that you don't really understand bisexuality. Being bi DOES NOT mean that they are attacted to both groups equally, just that they are attracted to both groups.

Ok let's put it differently. In ME1 Kaidan was interested in femshep (he mentioned her being "special")...but he was not interested in maleshep whatsoever. I simply want that adressed if suddenly in ME3 Kaidan somehow is interested in maleshep.

OK then. This is perfectly reasonable. However, you also have to realize that in a maleShep playthrough, femShep doesn't exist. So in such a playthrough, the only girl he ever mentions is the girl from biotic camp.

[Jessihatt]

makenzieshepard wrote...

For what it's worth I don't think anyone was really attacking you though it may have seemed like the pro bi Kaidan crowd jumped you all at once since I think you got like 4-5 responses in a minute.  I swear we didn't plan it, you just got "lucky" 

Haha thanks! I was worried I'd upset some people 

[Siansonea]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I think it is SO telling that of everything going on in the real world and the Mass Effect world, THIS is the issue everyone gets worked up over.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, THIS subject, whether or not Kaidan Alenko is bisexual or exclusively heterosexual, THIS is what the players care about. Oddly enough, the majority of these Concerned Players are not card-carrying Kaidan fans who frequent the Kaidan fan thread and kibbutz about Brain Camp and Rhana and Vyrrnus and whatnot. Nope, they just don't want their "bro" to be "gay". It's times like these that I seriously question the BSN's lack of a "facepalm" emoticon graphic.

And this is why I think middle schools should be year-round rather than having summers off. <_<

So I have to frequent the Kaidan thread? That makes no sense.

Hell, I'm a Talimancer, and I hardly ever post in the Tali thread.

One would do well to ask oneself why if one is largely indifferent to a character, why is this ONE aspect of the character such an all-consuming problem? Why is THIS the battleground? Hmmm, might this whole thing not be about Kaidan Alenko at all? Might'nt it?

[KawaiiKatie]

GreenSoda wrote...

Ok let's put it differently. In ME1 Kaidan was interested in femshep (he mentioned her being "special")...but he was not interested in maleshep whatsoever.

That's not necessarily true. Kaidan starts to develop feelings for femShep if she is kind to him in the medbay after Eden Prime--after she saved him from the Prothean Beacon. For male Shepards, those interactions were replaced with Ashley. I wouldn't say that Kaidan is disinterested in manShep, but rather that Kaidan is prompted to show an interest in femShep. Who knows how Kaidan would've reacted if manShep had saved him from the Prothean Beacon? ManShep was robbed of the opportunity, so we'll never know.

I simply want that adressed if suddenly in ME3 Kaidan somehow is interested in maleshep.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again... but I have faith that Bioware will cover this plot point. Kaidan will not "suddenly" start hitting on male Shepard with zero regard for the pre-established canon, or his pre-established relationship with manShep. There will be some sort of plot point or dialogue that addresses this issue. It may not address it to your complete satisfaction, but it will be there.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 27 juin 2011 - 10:02 .

[Maugrim]

CommanderJessica wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

For what it's worth I don't think anyone was really attacking you though it may have seemed like the pro bi Kaidan crowd jumped you all at once since I think you got like 4-5 responses in a minute.  I swear we didn't plan it, you just got "lucky" 

Haha thanks! I was worried I'd upset some people 

I kinda felt bad after I refreshed the page I was like ffffffuuuuuu.....

[Siansonea]

Raanz wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I think it is SO telling that of everything going on in the real world and the Mass Effect world, THIS is the issue everyone gets worked up over.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, THIS subject, whether or not Kaidan Alenko is bisexual or exclusively heterosexual, THIS is what the players care about. Oddly enough, the majority of these Concerned Players are not card-carrying Kaidan fans who frequent the Kaidan fan thread and kibbutz about Brain Camp and Rhana and Vyrrnus and whatnot. Nope, they just don't want their "bro" to be "gay". It's times like these that I seriously question the BSN's lack of a "facepalm" emoticon graphic.

And this is why I think middle schools should be year-round rather than having summers off. <_<

http://social.biowar...5/index/7625505

And your point is...? 

[Medhia Nox]

@GreenSoda - in my playthrough, Kaidan never hits on anyone. FemShep does not exist in my plathrough any more than Morinth is alive or the Collector base is in the hands of the illusive man.

Those things may be in your playthrough - but that doesn't apply to mine.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 27 juin 2011 - 10:06 .