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[Ryzaki]

jbblue05 wrote...
You're not understandiing the tone in which I used PMS.

 

He can't get PMS in any form or fashion. He *can* get IMS. Just use that instead of using a word that WILL NEVER APPLY.   
Since he's male he gets IMS. 
IF he was female (which he's NOT) then he'd get PMS.

It is impossible for him to have PMS. He's not actling like he has PMS either. You'd know that if you actually ever had PMS. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2011 - 04:33 .

[ipgd]

jbblue05 wrote...

You're not understandiing the tone in which I used PMS.

She understood your tone. She is implying you are being ignorant and annoying by using it in such a context. You are, by the way. Ignorant and annoying, that is.

[Good Chaos7]

ipgd wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Also as long as they don't do this www.youtube.com/watch.
I'm fine.

MGS2 was a masterpiece and I take great pity upon the filthy plebeians without the mental faculties to comprehend its depth and glory.

High Five!!

& I see absolutely Nothing wrong with the Naked Male Body.. <3

Modifié par Good Chaos7, 27 juin 2011 - 04:32 .

[Berkilak]

ipgd wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

You're not understandiing the tone in which I used PMS.

She understood your tone. She is implying you are being ignorant and annoying by using it in such a context. You are, by the way. Ignorant and annoying, that is.

You are the most combative person I've ever encountered on these forums. And you sling out personal attacks for no reason, to boot.

[jbblue05]

Ryzaki wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
You're not understandiing the tone in which I used PMS.

 

He can't get PMS in any form or fashion. He *can* get IMS. Just use that instead of using a word that WILL NEVER APPLY. 

It is impossible for him to have PMS. He's not actling like he has PMS either. You'd know that if you actually ever had PMS. 

I feel we're both banging our heads against the wall.   You're taking the term to literal

[jbblue05]

ipgd wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

You're not understandiing the tone in which I used PMS.

She understood your tone. She is implying you are being ignorant and annoying by using it in such a context. You are, by the way. Ignorant and annoying, that is.

No she's not.  Your assumptions are ignorant and annoying

[Ryzaki]

jbblue05 wrote...
I feel we're both banging our heads against the wall.   You're taking the term to literal

 

It's a MEDICAL TERM. 

Use another word. Use the PROPER word for a male IMS or just use b****y. PMS doesn't apply for anything other than females. It's not complicated. 

[HTTP 404]

Berkilak wrote...

They could (and probably will) introduce a non-asari bisexual character instead of picking someone who has already been written as straight.

Kaiden was written and voiced for a bi sexual role.  It was a director's cut that got rid of the s/s romancing.

Modifié par HTTP 404, 27 juin 2011 - 04:37 .

[ipgd]

Sierra Crysis wrote...

Not to get into a shallow debate with you, because he was probably the least shallow character in DA2 with the single largest affect, but the romance was very lacking. The romance, I do consider to be shallow in everything from the ways the lines are delivered to the way that he literally leaps the love word at you freely and keeps throwing these I'll hurt you lines... And the only way you can respond is like.. Oh yeah baby I like to be hurt. I get that there's time skips inbetween each dialogue, in the form of years... But only giving you the dialogue where he's practically repeating himself with the love professing is just weak in my opinion.

Think about it for five seconds and even that is the antithesis of shallow.

The entire purpose of the Anders romance is to set up and then systematically deconstruct popular romance tropes. Over the course of the romance, it dissects and highlights the very negative aspects of those tropes (e.g. hasty romanticism and devotion as they beget unhealthy self-destructive obsessions). Rather than glorifying them, as is typical of the romance genre, it shows you how those ostensibly admirable things could go horribly wrong, and how unhealthy it is. It is pretty much a textbook deconstruction in the way it is handled.

[NICKjnp]

Berkilak wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

This is all personal opinion. In the end it isn't up to any of us but rather Bioware. Everyone has an opinion on the implementation of s/s options in-game. And those opinions run the rull gambit of the spectrum. And since it is an opinion nobody is right and nobody is wrong...it is all personal opinion. The only time it becomes "wrong" is when people start telling each other that only their opinion matters and that everyone else is wrong because they don't agree.

Like the OP I don't think that Kaidan should be a s/s option. I don't think he should be one because he wasn't an option in previous games and I think that him being bisexual now and not before doesn't make sense (and it just seems tacked on). I think that for all the characters. Then again that is only my opinion and it is neither right or wrong. Some people feel differently and have interpreted some of the things he says in ME2 to be the opposite. That is their opinion and it doesn't make it right or wrong. It doesn't make is more or less valid than the opinion of anyone else.

So let's please stop all the fighting in the threads. Pretty please with a cherry on top.

I didn't intend to start a fight... just seems like the proponents of the Male Kaidan romance are itching for one, making personal attacks from the get-go. Or they're just so used to the fighting that they fail to perceive an attempted discussion as such, and not a flame against them.

I've experienced the attack from the get-go as well.  The best thing you can do is simply state your case and politely leave the conversation when people start to get heated.  This is same case for the fans of the same-sex Kaidan romance who feel like those against it are making personal attacks.  The best way to avoid an internet battle royale is to simply ignore the people trying to start one.

Now where is that cherry...I have an ice-cream sunday here that I want to eat and no maracino cherries.

[ElitePinecone]

KaidAn.

*head explodes*

[ipgd]

Berkilak wrote...

You are the most combative person I've ever encountered on these forums. And you sling out personal attacks for no reason, to boot.

You haven't been here long, have you? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll meet ReconTeam soon.

[jbblue05]

Ryzaki wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
I feel we're both banging our heads against the wall.   You're taking the term to literal

 

It's a MEDICAL TERM. 

Use another word. Use the PROPER word for a male IMS or just use b****y. PMS doesn't apply for anything other than females. It's not complicated. 

Just drop it,  you're making my original post more complicated than it is

[upsettingshorts]

People who equate discussions with fighting actually make me want to start fights more than the discussions themselves.

jbblue05 wrote...

Just drop it

You're talking to Ryzaki.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 27 juin 2011 - 04:40 .

[Ryzaki]

jbblue05 wrote...
Just drop it,  you're making my original post more complicated than it is

 

You mean your blatant misuse and apparent misunderstanding of a term? Alright. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2011 - 04:40 .

[Berkilak]

ipgd wrote...

Sierra Crysis wrote...

Not to get into a shallow debate with you, because he was probably the least shallow character in DA2 with the single largest affect, but the romance was very lacking. The romance, I do consider to be shallow in everything from the ways the lines are delivered to the way that he literally leaps the love word at you freely and keeps throwing these I'll hurt you lines... And the only way you can respond is like.. Oh yeah baby I like to be hurt. I get that there's time skips inbetween each dialogue, in the form of years... But only giving you the dialogue where he's practically repeating himself with the love professing is just weak in my opinion.

Think about it for five seconds and even that is the antithesis of shallow.

The entire purpose of the Anders romance is to set up and then systematically deconstruct popular romance tropes. Over the course of the romance, it dissects and highlights the very negative aspects of those tropes (e.g. hasty romanticism and devotion as they beget unhealthy self-destructive obsessions). Rather than glorifying them, as is typical of the romance genre, it shows you how those ostensibly admirable things could go horribly wrong, and how unhealthy it is. It is pretty much a textbook deconstruction in the way it is handled.

Can I borrow those rose-coloured glasses so I can finish my second playthrough of DA2? :innocent:

[Raanz]

You know, after reading through so many of these threads, I really think a counter-thread should be made, one specifically to discuss why s/s relationships shouldn't be added to established characters...much like the thread that is specific for discussion on how to implement it and has no tolerance for posters who disagree with it.

Stated in the OP of the new thread could be: "This thread is for discussions on how it shouldn't be implemented and not for if it is or not."
This way, the forums could eliminate a lot of redundant threads. One side has their thread, the other side has their own.

Genius!

[amcnow]

This thread has gone to hell in a hand basket. Is the verbal abuse really necessary to get your point across?

[Berkilak]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

People who equate discussions with fighting actually make me want to fights more than the discussions themselves.

jbblue05 wrote...

Just drop it

You're talking to Ryzaki.

You weren't one of the people making personal attacks. Refer to those who entered the discussion before you.

[upsettingshorts]

Berkilak wrote...
Can I borrow those rose-coloured glasses so I can finish my second playthrough of DA2? :innocent:

Now who is being childish and combative, eh?

You could, alternatively, attempt to formulate a counter-argument to ipgd's position regarding the issue. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 27 juin 2011 - 04:41 .

[jtav]

I always saw Kaidan as straight, but a m/m option is no skin off my nose. I'll keep romancing him with FemShep. I do think another character that isn't mutually exclusive with another character would be better. The number of players using the ME2 default is non-trivial, so a potential s/s option is dead without their input.

[Ryzaki]

Raanz wrote...

You know, after reading through so many of these threads, I really think a counter-thread should be made, one specifically to discuss why s/s relationships shouldn't be added to established characters...much like the thread that is specific for discussion on how to implement it and has no tolerance for posters who disagree with it.

Stated in the OP of the new thread could be: "This thread is for discussions on how it shouldn't be implemented and not for if it is or not."
This way, the forums could eliminate a lot of redundant threads. One side has their thread, the other side has their own.

Genius!

 

This is a marvelous idea. Then the people who argue in both threads can be sent to the one they should be in. Minimize unnecessary hostilities on both sides. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juin 2011 - 04:43 .

[amcnow]

Raanz wrote...

You know, after reading through so many of these threads, I really think a counter-thread should be made, one specifically to discuss why s/s relationships shouldn't be added to established characters...much like the thread that is specific for discussion on how to implement it and has no tolerance for posters who disagree with it.

Stated in the OP of the new thread could be: "This thread is for discussions on how it shouldn't be implemented and not for if it is or not."
This way, the forums could eliminate a lot of redundant threads. One side has their thread, the other side has their own.

Genius!

...except both would eventually be locked due to the aggressive nature of both sides.  It's a nice idea on paper, however.

[Berkilak]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Berkilak wrote...
Can I borrow those rose-coloured glasses so I can finish my second playthrough of DA2? :innocent:

Now who is being childish and combative, eh?

Note: Not with you. Only the person who is throwing around terms like "ignorant" and "idiot." You're probably the only proponent who didn't stoop to petty name-calling.