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[Berkilak]

 Quite frankly, the entire Cerberus aside that was Mass Effect 2, while a fun and well-written game in its own right, was a huge distraction from the true Reaper threat (as were the Collectors).

I definitely hope that the Illusive Man is some sort of personification of the Reapers - a more relatable character for the player to interact with (ie. Shepard communicating with TIM instead of the Reapers, like Picard communicating with the Borg Queen instead of the entire Collective). I love the concept of a very foreign, very alien power needing to be dealt with, and I find it to be very annoying when writers invent an "emissary"-type character in order to make that alien force more relatable.

I want to engage with the Reapers at their level. Not through TIM or anyone else. I know he's referred to as a major antagonist, but I'm hoping that it isn't too significant a role.

[bnolsen2]

I'm not willing to bet that T.I.M. being an antagonist means the same thing as him being a Reaper emissary. It seems to me that something fishy is going on with the Cerberus indoctrination plot.

[Candidate 88766]

bnolsen2 wrote...

I'm not willing to bet that T.I.M. being an antagonist means the same thing as him being a Reaper emissary. It seems to me that something fishy is going on with the Cerberus indoctrination plot.

Yeah, I imagine Cerberus and the Reapers are going to be seperate antagonists with different motives and agendas that both just happen to involove Shepard dying. I'm not convinced that Cerberus is with the Reapers, as every time some info saying that comes up one of the devs seems to say something that counteracts it.

[BatmanPWNS]

I want to see him kill someone innocent. You know it would make him look more evil and give us a better reason to kill him more.

[Someone With Mass]

I just want that clown to stay out of my way. Or I'll send that pretty station of his into the nearest sun with him strapped to his chair.

[CroGamer002]

A dead one.

[yummysoap]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I want to see him kill someone innocent. You know it would make him look more evil and give us a better reason to kill him more.

We already know he's behind the deaths of countless innocents. Good enough?

[Eurhetemec]

I don't think TIM will be a Reaper emissary. I would be unsurprised to see him as arrogant enough to think that he can somehow "work out a deal" with the Reapers, though, and end up effectively working from them, either with the proviso that the Reapers won't wipe out humanity entirely, or that they will make humanity into badass new Reapers and not the other races, or something.

I'm hoping he's more of a "mid-boss" or even optional boss (perhaps you can convince him he's being a ******, for example) than the end-boss.

[Berkilak]

Eurhetemec wrote...

I don't think TIM will be a Reaper emissary. I would be unsurprised to see him as arrogant enough to think that he can somehow "work out a deal" with the Reapers, though, and end up effectively working from them, either with the proviso that the Reapers won't wipe out humanity entirely, or that they will make humanity into badass new Reapers and not the other races, or something.

I'm hoping he's more of a "mid-boss" or even optional boss (perhaps you can convince him he's being a ******, for example) than the end-boss.

If he's working with a non-human entity, he's indoctrinated. I don't see him as one that is apt to negotiate with any enemy of humanity.... besides, we already saw that storyline with Saren.

I'm just really tired of Cerberus, and I don't feel that they should play too large of a role in a fight for the survival of, not only humanity, but every space-faring species in the galaxy. The Reaper-emissary thing is a worst case scenario. I want the game to feel like a sequel to ME1 more than ME2, since it's dealing with more ME1 issues and Cerberus seems to be shoehorned in.

[Raiil]

I want to be the thorn in his foot, so I suppose a decent sized one. It's no fun pissing off the small timers.

[Dean_the_Young]

"Magnificent Bastard."

Emphasis on Bastard.

[HTTP 404]

I want TIM to be akin to Loghain in DA:O. Loghain was the antagonist but he was not necassarily a bad guy, he's priorities were screwed up and still wanted the best for his country. I want to TIM to be more akin to that, where TIM truly believes he is saving mankind, etc.

also Loghain was able to join your cause after you beat him in the Landsmeet.  Perhaps there will be that option with TIM

Modifié par HTTP 404, 27 juin 2011 - 04:32 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

A pseudo-mentor figure kind of antagonist as my Shepard takes over Cerberus at the end of the game. Sort of like Henry Leland from Alpha Protocol.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 27 juin 2011 - 04:32 .

[Xeranx]

TIM is no Leland. I took only a little satisfaction in ending him. I'll take more satisfaction in putting TIM down.

[happy_daiz]

Hmm. The Illusive Man hates my Shepards because of my decisions at the end of ME2. I'm betting he'll be back to bite them all in the arse.

I'm hoping he doesn't join forces with the reapers/harbinger, but judging from his "save humans" convictions, and lack of regard for method, he probably will work out a deal with them.

Personally, I'd be fine with him not showing up in ME3 at all.

Edit: cleaned up wording, spacing a little.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 27 juin 2011 - 04:36 .

[BP20125810]

They have already said he is the main villain, besides the reapers, of course.

[Berkilak]

HTTP 404 wrote...

I want TIM to be akin to Loghain in DA:O. Loghain was the antagonist but he was not necassarily a bad guy, he's priorities were screwed up and still wanted the best for his country. I want to TIM to be more akin to that, where TIM truly believes he is saving mankind, etc.

also Loghain was able to join your cause after you beat him in the Landsmeet.  Perhaps there will be that option with TIM

Loved Loghain, but I would hate to see a similiar role filled by TIM.

I don't want to see another Cerberus-centric game - this is a battle against extinction, and I don't want to see another aside to distract from that. We've been waiting to fight the Reapers since Virmire... any TIM-centric story just seems as if it would detract from that.

[Berkilak]

BP20125810 wrote...

They have already said he is the main villain, besides the reapers, of course.

True, but given how major a villain the Reapers are... his relative importance could be quite insignificant. (It won't be, but I can hope. ;p)

[HTTP 404]

Berkilak wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

I want TIM to be akin to Loghain in DA:O. Loghain was the antagonist but he was not necassarily a bad guy, he's priorities were screwed up and still wanted the best for his country. I want to TIM to be more akin to that, where TIM truly believes he is saving mankind, etc.

also Loghain was able to join your cause after you beat him in the Landsmeet.  Perhaps there will be that option with TIM

Loved Loghain, but I would hate to see a similiar role filled by TIM.

I don't want to see another Cerberus-centric game - this is a battle against extinction, and I don't want to see another aside to distract from that. We've been waiting to fight the Reapers since Virmire... any TIM-centric story just seems as if it would detract from that.

I agree with that, I still want TIM to be like Loghain and I wouldn't mind if his role was not as major in Me3. 

[Steppenwolf]

I'm going with the assumption that TIM's exposure to the Reaper artifact did more than just give him sweet eyes and he is in fact being controlled by the Reapers. That said, I'm betting TIM/Cerberus will be a threat for most of the game, interfering with most of the major missions. You'll then have to take down TIM to dismantle Cerberus so they can't impede you any further.
And I'm betting the scene where you kill TIM will be epic, set in front of a blue sun backdrop(because, ya know...) and with a single shot to the forehead.

[VegasVance]

Give Shep a choice, spare a LI or spare Joker. Kill the other, also revive them with a control chip and make Shep fight the revived corpse.

[RolandX9]

For Paragons, I want TIM to be the Plot Point 2 boss (i.e. a major fight about two-thirds into the game). He shouldn't be the Saren of ME3, but bringing him down should be a big deal, and an immensely satisfying conclusion to Paragon-Shep's entanglement with Cerberus. Plus, I really want Jack along when I shotgun him in the face. *EG*

At about the same time-point, Renegades should be able to fight some epic Reaper-thing to free TIM from their control, thus bringing Cerberus back around to the side of humanity (or at least TIM's twisted vision of it). This would allowing Renegade-Shep to use Cerberus' inexplicably enormous army to retake Earth, and the secrets of the Collector Base to destroy the Reapers. Alternately, Renegades could have to mercy-kill TIM and take over Cerberus in his place ("Thank you, Shepard. I knew you would do what must be done.") to save the galaxy...and take it over.

[Casterdael]

BasilKarlo wrote...

I'm going with the assumption that TIM's exposure to the Reaper artifact did more than just give him sweet eyes and he is in fact being controlled by the Reapers. That said, I'm betting TIM/Cerberus will be a threat for most of the game, interfering with most of the major missions. You'll then have to take down TIM to dismantle Cerberus so they can't impede you any further.
And I'm betting the scene where you kill TIM will be epic, set in front of a blue sun backdrop(because, ya know...) and with a single shot to the forehead.

Like with Paul Grayson, he might be able to sense the reapers whereabouts in dark space. It might be possible that when they move closer towards his position TIM gets more and more indoctrinated to the point where Saren was. 

[Zebron is reaL]

My first choice is not an antagonist at all, detracts from his character if hes just straight up evil

Second choice would be a Saren-type endgame moment where we can try to talk him down( with better results hopefully)

[lovgreno]

I prefer it if ME3 is about fighting reapers first and foremost and frankly I got a bit bored of TIMmy in ME2. It is now time for something new.