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[Xeyska]

lovgreno wrote...

I prefer it if ME3 is about fighting reapers first and foremost and frankly I got a bit bored of TIMmy in ME2. It is now time for something new.

This.

[Chuvvy]

There should only be one antagonist, the Reapers.

[Berkilak]

Slidell505 wrote...

There should only be one antagonist, the Reapers.

Exactly... I hate seeing Cerberus pigeonholed into the role of antagonist just to try to make the ME2 plot more relevant to the overarching Reaper threat.

[Eurhetemec]

Berkilak wrote...

If he's working with a non-human entity, he's indoctrinated. I don't see him as one that is apt to negotiate with any enemy of humanity.... besides, we already saw that storyline with Saren.

It's not a fact that it would take indoctrination to have TIM work with aliens. He works with aliens whenever he thinks it benefits humanity. I doubt that he'd directly "take orders" from the Reapers, but I'd be unsurprised if a Reaper could convince him that he and the Reapers had a "common goal". Especially if he has something that stops him/his troops from becoming directly indoctrinated (Thorian spores, possibly).

It really doesn't require indoctrination for him to work with (not for) the Reapers. Just overweening arrogance, and TIM has that in spades (hence his attitude to you destroying the Reapertech-filled Collector base). So no, it wouldn't be the same plot as Saren. It would be a drastically different plot - a counterpoint to Saren, even.

I'm just really tired of Cerberus, and I don't feel that they should play too large of a role in a fight for the survival of, not only humanity, but every space-faring species in the galaxy. The Reaper-emissary thing is a worst case scenario. I want the game to feel like a sequel to ME1 more than ME2, since it's dealing with more ME1 issues and Cerberus seems to be shoehorned in.

Well, if you're tired of Cerberus, you're not likely to love ME3. It's already been stated that fully 40% of the enemies you fight in the game are Cerberus troops. 40%. So Cerberus will be about as common as the Blue Suns and Eclipse put together were in ME2. That also means Cerberus are a "big deal" in what's coming.

Totally agree about Cerberus feeling "shoe-horned in", going from joke mad-scientist terrorist organisation you might skip over entirely in ME1 (I suspect the whole Cerberus plotline was a late addition to ME1, as it doesn't really fit in, is a bit buggy, and relies on stuff from earlier missions, unlike other side-quests), to the main plot in ME2, but here's the thing - Arrival felt shoe-horned into ME2 to prepare it for ME3, so I don't think BW are afraid of the shoe-horn!

[luzburg]

well t.i.m was intoctrenated right after the first contact war, maybe in me3 the reaper finds a use for him and cerberus, like in the same way sovergin used saren and the geth

[Missouri Tigers]

Considering I gave him the collector base, I'd prefer he be my buddy.

[medcsu]

Something of interest. If TIM was indoctrinated after the FCWar as we can assume (if he is in fact indoctrinated), then would there be a chance that the tech added to Shepard (Lazarus Project) would be Reaper/Indoctrinated tech? I doubt this, but the comment has to be mentioned.

[seirhart]

I want him and cereberus to take a major back seat, 3 is supposed to be about the reapers not about cereberus.

[Berkilak]

seirhart wrote...

I want him and cereberus to take a major back seat, 3 is supposed to be about the reapers not about cereberus.

But word is that 40% of enemies fought will be Cerberus. That's... discouraging, to say the least.

[Malanek]

He is an interesting character. I just hope that whatever they have written in for him will be worthy of what has been written so far. I think simple indoctrination would be unworthy.

[Dean_the_Young]

Berkilak wrote...

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I want TIM to be akin to Loghain in DA:O. Loghain was the antagonist but he was not necassarily a bad guy, he's priorities were screwed up and still wanted the best for his country. I want to TIM to be more akin to that, where TIM truly believes he is saving mankind, etc.

also Loghain was able to join your cause after you beat him in the Landsmeet.  Perhaps there will be that option with TIM

Loved Loghain, but I would hate to see a similiar role filled by TIM.

I don't want to see another Cerberus-centric game - this is a battle against extinction, and I don't want to see another aside to distract from that. We've been waiting to fight the Reapers since Virmire... any TIM-centric story just seems as if it would detract from that.

I'd rather TIM be a 'If Loghain had actually been write' figure: evil, perhaps, but ultimately correct.

[Repearized Miranda]

Well, considering his the Head Guru of Cerberus ...

I'd say it should be pretty significant; however, hopefully he's not super-imposed regarding the Reaper threat - a significant part in its dealings, yes. Final-Boss-at-the-end-of-the-game wise, no. However, I wouldn't mind having my actions doing the talking to him afterwards!

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 27 juin 2011 - 11:19 .

[Sebby]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I'd have preferred Cerberus to be a minor side faction in ME3 (as a result of Retribution) that Shepard can choose to either deal the killing blow to or salvage for future use against the Reapers and beyond.

Same here but instead we get a good dose of railroading.

[Saaziel]

That would have been an interesting take on things. Though i wonder how well received the "for future use" would have been; Seems like a hollow victory , though i agree , better than nothing at all.

[Saaziel]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Are you talking to me?

I was. I thought i had transferred your quote, apparently i didn't.

Saphra Deden wrote...
I mean that they'd be useful at the end of the game, providing additional support if you helped them recover some of their losses.

Otherewise you get the satisfaction of destroying once and for all a despicable adversary.

Oh , i thought you were emphasizing the "Future" part, in a hypothetical continuation of the Mass effect universe. I think setting up Cerberus as weaken at the start of ME3, but then be in a position to take on the Reapers by the end of ME3 might be problematic, story-wise , though not impossible.

My main concern would be the kind of logistics necessary to achieve something of the sort, and it might boil down to a Deus ex . Though that will probably be the case either way.

Modifié par Saaziel, 28 juin 2011 - 12:09 .

[Praetor Knight]

I've had this thought for dealing with TIM, that depends on what TIM tries to use Cerberus for in ME3.

So if TIM does go all out against Shepard, I would like a face-to-face confrontation along the lines of Heart of Darkness / Apocalypse Now after defeating the reapers.

[clerkenwell]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I've had this thought for dealing with TIM, that depends on what TIM tries to use Cerberus for in ME3.

So if TIM does go all out against Shepard, I would like a face-to-face confrontation along the lines of Heart of Darkness / Apocalypse Now after defeating the reapers.

Oh crap, now I'm envisioning Lair of the Illusive Man DLC.

[Praetor Knight]

clerkenwell wrote...

Oh crap, now I'm envisioning Lair of the Illusive Man DLC.

I'd rather have something like that to finish the trilogy over another uber-boss fight like in ME1 and ME2.

[Saaziel]

Saphra Deden wrote...


I didn't say they'd be able to take on the Reapers single-handedly

I didn't mean it that way either.

Modifié par Saaziel, 28 juin 2011 - 12:26 .

[Saaziel]

As i said ; It would be difficult to make something credible in my opinion , though not impossible.

Modifié par Saaziel, 28 juin 2011 - 12:35 .